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Carolyn, I don't think I ever saw your post, but I'm glad we agree.

On 11/01/09, Carolyn wrote:
> I guess you're also not able to understand what my post actually says,
> either.
>
> I BELIEVE I just said EXACTLY what you just said.
>
> On 11/01/09, Sheila wrote:
>> Sorry your school is not trained properly on how to use AR and you
>> have not taken the initiative to understand it yourself. You can
>> read novels in class AND take AR tests as I do. Right now my class
>> is reading Number the Stars. You can watch a movie too, but you
>> will more than likely get no more than 40% of the questions right
>> (WHICH RESULTS IN 0 AR POINTS)since the people at AR know that and
>> make the questions about things that WEREN'T in the movie! No need
>> to respond. I am not interested in hearing anymore about this.
>>
>> On 10/31/09,
>>
>>
>> The RIGHT Carolyn wrote:
>>> I don't "HATE" it, I just don't see how it improves reading
>>> comprehension or motivation.
>>>
>>> Ironically, I just received an email from a parent upset with me
>>> over the AR report her child is getting. As a result of her
>>> student not "understanding" he was supposed to do AR this past
>>> quarter, he received a "not meeting goals" on his report card.
>>>
>>> Now, I READILY admit I did NOT tell him he was to be doing AR. I
>>> assumed he already knew what it was. See, that's the problem I am
>>> having. The person who is compiling the data and basically
>>> running the system did not inform me that I was actually "in
>>> charge" of the students reaching their goals. Hence, a new
>>> student to the school who didn't know a darn thing about AR went
>>> the entire quarter clueless about it (as was I)
>>>
>>> That's the reason why I do not like the way this system is set
>>> up. We are reading a novel in class and the students are fully
>>> comprehending this novel. THAT is more accurate of a
>>> comprehension measurement to me, as a teacher, than a software
>>> program with 22 questions in it. I don't understand how a student
>>> who gets an A from me in regards to the standard "demonstrates
>>> literal comprehension" in MY class, can fail that on an AR test.
>>> Does this make sense?
>>>
>>> I also had a student who took NUMEROUS AR tests, and failed MOST
>>> of them. So, she's not comprehending them either. Is it MY fault
>>> she's not comprehending books she's read independently? No, it is
>>> not. Is it my job to analyze the data and "fix" this problem?
>>> Yes, it is. Is that fair? No, it is not.
>>>
>>> I have been given NO guidance, except for my co teacher who went
>>> over the reports with me, on AR this past Friday. I have tried
>>> numerous times to access the information, but cannot even sign on
>>> to the system. Yet, I am being expected to monitor this and fix
>>> issues on books I haven't read myself? THAT is my overall issue I
>>> have with this.
>>>
>>> By the way, the parent told me that her child told her that a lot
>>> of the kids in my school are going to see the movie versions of
>>> the book, then taking AR tests for points. Since I consider this
>>> cheating, I consider this evidence that AR is not an accurate way
>>> to measure reading achievement. I can safely bet that many, many
>>> students across the country are doing that very same thing --
>>> cheating by seeing the movie just for the sake of wracking up
>>> their point totals.
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts.
>>>
>>> On 9/28/09, Deb ms/IA wrote:
>>>> This was addressed to Carolyn it wasn't from Carolyn.
>>>> Carolyn has torn apart AR since her first post. Her school
>>>> is implementing AR incorrectly and Carolyn hates AR with a
>>>> passion and states that quiet often on this board. Instead
>>>> of making changes and using AR properly she just complains.
>>>> Sorry for the confusion on your part. It was meant to
>>>> address Carolyn and the fact I don't get all her whining.
>>>>
>>>> Deb ms/IA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/26/09, I don't get you Carolyn wrote:
>>>>>>> 60 percent on any work isn't passing work in some
>>>>>>> grading scales. It doesn't matter if its a book
>>>>>>> talk on a book or any type of project on a book 60
>>>>>>> percent isn't that great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your ignorance/intolerance/anger with AR is
>>>>>>> showing. AR is not all about numbers nor is it
>>>>>>> about punishing kids. Please, you and your school
>>>>>>> need training on how to properly run AR. When you
>>>>>>> get that training, implement that training then
>>>>>>> come back and issue your opinions on AR. Until then
>>>>>>> stop your whining and complaining. Do something
>>>>>>> about the problem!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/26/09, Carolyn wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think focusing on points instead of reading
>>>>>>>> enjoyment and comprehension is the wrong way to
>>>>>>>> look at learning. That makes it all about a
>>>>>>>> number to obtain, not the material from the book.
>>>>>>>> Kids at my school get punished for not making
>>>>>>>> their goals. This is not a motivating factor,
>>>>>>>> it's a punitive fear of failure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still don't get the whole point of AR. A book
>>>>>>>> is better understood by talking about it, not by
>>>>>>>> taking multiple choice tests. Ugh.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
 

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