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    Re: Professionalism...To Tyler
    Posted by: Tyler on 9/30/09

    Deb, I am glad you support Ima. I hope I did not come across as
    insulting her in any way as I do agree with her and others on
    this board most of the time. All I am saying is I think
    everyone needs to question their professionalism before they
    post. There is no need to attack someone for not likeing AR,
    nor is there a reason to attack someone for supporting it. Chat
    boards are meant to share opinions and ideas (Good and Bad). I
    guess I look at this site like you do where I can share my good
    experiences with someone that shares those ideas, yet I also
    understand others could care less about what I have to say.
    Ima, let me be the first to tell you that I support your
    postings here. But for those that feel the need to say AR is
    terrible, please understand that this site is full of people
    that enjoy AR as well, so you will not get a lot of support with
    negativity. You have a right to post as much as anyone else
    does, but if you do not like it, I find it strange you want to
    continue to post negative things knowing you are in the minority
    here. I do not think you deserve to be attacked for your
    belief's, but I do not see a lot of people supporting your
    stance either.

    On 9/30/09, Deb ms/IA wrote:
    > Tyler,
    >
    > Ima has taken above and beyond ridicule from a handful of
    > devout AR haters or trolls personally through her e-mail and
    > here on the chatboard. Many of the posts have been
    removed
    > but not before doing damage to the most helpful and most
    > trained person on this board. Ima has been a positive person
    > in getting proper information to people really needing it.
    > She volunteers her time to assist people in using AR to its
    > utmost benefit. She has helped many of us in our programs.
    >
    > Ima never expects everyone to agree with her. She only shares
    > how implementing the program properly and having proper
    > training helps make the program work. Based on her training
    > and her years of experience AR can and does work. IF you
    > don't like the help then fine. The personal attacks are
    very
    > hurtful to those who volunteer their time and help. Negative
    > opinions on a site that was meant to help implement AR are not
    > necessary. If you don't like AR express that on a forum where
    > it is appropriate.
    >
    > If you are having problems with AR then ask questions instead
    > of expressing hate to those trying to assist.
    >
    > Actually this is a pro AR site designed to help in
    > implementing AR. Yes, people do have a right to voice
    > opposition to AR but that was not the purpose of this board.
    > If you don't want help with AR then don't post here. This is
    > not an I hate AR site.
    >
    > Ima has been a vital part of this site for a long time. She
    > is trained in AR and has good advice to assist in implementing
    > AR. You don't have to use her advice or even agree with her
    > but stop trashing her for helping!
    >
    > Deb ms/IA
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/30/09, Tyler wrote:
    >> Look, chat boards are for voicing opinions and in some
    >> cases stating a point or arguing your case. But the last
    >> 20-30 posts have NOT been useful or professional on any
    >> level. We are all bigger and better than this. Deleting
    >> a quiz. Lets face it. There are multiple ways to think
    >> logically about that. Comparing it to drinking a driving
    >> is a little dramatic, but you still make a premise about
    >> proper decision making. No need to attack each other on
    >> it. Lets have enough respect for fellow teachers to at
    >> least respect their opinons.
    >>
    >> Ima, you've posted here many times and I agree with a lot
    >> of what you said over the years. But I do not agree with
    >> everything. As for deleting a test. I do not agree you
    >> should be deleting tests. But I do not need to ridicule
    >> you for your opinion. Can I see 1-3 do-overs a year per
    >> student? Yeah probably. But if I am seeing 1-3 a week or
    >> a month, then they are cheating the program. Sadly
    >> enough, its usually teachers changing things to get scores
    >> up or competing with other classes so they encourage this
    >> kind of behavior.
    >>
    >> As for Carolyn and others. Nobody said this is a Pro - AR
    >> site only. She has a right to voice her displeasure.
    >> There is nothing more rewarding than taking a non-believer
    >> and making them a believer in our world of reading.
    >>
    >> However, she has a right to post good, bad or indifferent
    >> without being attacked. Granted, she can be more
    >> professional in her opinions, but keep in mind, none of us
    >> are in her situation and she has been repeatidly burned by
    >> implementation processes. If its not AR, it could be
    >> Reading counts, or some other program.
    >>
    >> There are things we learn both from people that like the
    >> program and people that dislike it. While my opinions may
    >> vary, I find no need in attacking another fellow teacher
    >> as in the end we all want the same thing which is helping
    >> students to read.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>


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    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Professionalism, 9/30/09, by Tyler.
  • Re: Professionalism...To Tyler, 9/30/09, by Deb ms/IA.
  • Re: Professionalism...To Tyler, 9/30/09, by Tyler.
  • Re: Professionalism, 9/30/09, by CityTeacher.
  • Re: Professionalism, 10/07/09, by Tyler.

     
     

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