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Re: Teachers Have Learning Disabilities--Not Students!
Posted by Wow on 8/09/07

    SuccessFriend, sounds like you need to enter what we call reality. Public
    school systems are stretched so thin that it is amazing that they are able to
    function at all. It would be impossible to adapt to each individual child's
    learning style. Public school teachers are the most under appreciated and
    underpaid individuals working today!

    You made a funny statement in an earlier quote. "I also read quote books, and
    trust what people have done before me. If they say anything is
    possible, I believe it." So, are you saying that if it is in print then it has
    to be true? You just lost any aspect of logic here!!!

    Best of luck with your effort to adjust any and everything based on every
    person's needs. By the way, I would prefer it if you would type in all
    lowercase letters from now on, with the exception that I would like for you to
    type every 3rd, 19th, and 3,276th words in Italics and in all caps. Let's see
    how willing you are to adapt!

    :) Cheers :)

    On 8/03/07, success friend wrote:
    > That is YOUR belief system. What you want for your daughter is up to you.
    > You cannot force a child to learn, but it must be interesting. If she is
    > drawing, instead of listening, I would question if she is being taught in
    > her mode of learning. Is there differentated instruction? Or is her visual
    > mode of learning being overlooked? How many teachers actually do this with
    > every student. Can you honestly say you differentiate your standards-based
    > instruction with every student based on their learning style or modality?
    > Show me evidence of this, and I will agree with your comment. I can
    > honestly say that I do. If you want, I can send you a copy of a lesson
    > plan I developed for this purpose.
    >
    > On 8/03/07, me wrote:
    >> I almost agree with you, with one tiny flaw.. from the orginal post about
    >> surpressing talents,,, its not that teachers want to surpress talents its
    >> that these kids chose to do their talents when they should be listening
    > in
    >> math class or english class or social studies... I hope to God that if my
    >> daughter starts doing drawings during math session that the teacher would
    >> take it away from her..... at that time she should be doing math.... And
    >> i'll guarantee one thing.....MY DAUGHTER WILL NOT GO TO COLLEGE FOR ART
    >> UNLESS SHE PAYS FOR IT.... I'M NOT CONTRIBUTING TO ART....DONE DEAL...
    > and
    >> i almost like you, brought myself from the dumps up to where i am now..
    >> I'm a high school drop out..lower middle class always lived in an
    >> apartment moved every year... blah blah blah.... family problems the
    > whole
    >> shabang... but that doesn't mean that someone else in our shoes was
    >> brilliant enough to pull themselves out...
    >>
    >>
    >> On 8/03/07, Success Friend wrote:
    >>> Thanks for the info about the Secret, I will check it out. If Oprah
    >>> endorses it, it must be pretty cool. Thank you for the information. I
    >>> like a nice, healthy debate, but you made a reference to a book that I
    >>> have no idea about. My philosophy is based on experience and
    >>> observation, not one particular book. If you don't think your comment
    >>> contained negativity or sarcasm, I guess we are not fit for a debate.
    >>> Can you provide evidence for your hypothesis? Have you conduted an
    >>> experiment that disproves what I am saying? My philosophy is based on
    >>> my experimentation in classrooms across the U.S. with children of all
    >>> learning abilities and ethnicities. Even a child with autism, or
    >>> mental retardation has a brain which can be challenged and expanded.
    >>> It may take longer, or several attempts in finding the best learning
    >>> mechanism, but anything is possible. I also read quote books, and
    >>> trust what people have done before me. If they say anything is
    >>> possible, I believe it. I have seen myself lifted out of poverty,
    >>> violence, and abuse to a new dimension of enlightenment. Because of
    >>> the influence if teachers who told me that I was brilliant and
    >>> believed in me, I was able to believe in myself. I remember performing
    >>> a poem at an assembly in 5th grade. It was in front of everybody, the
    >>> entire student body. I was scared to death, as I was constantly teased
    >>> by other kids. My teacher encouraged me to jump, move, and dance while
    >>> expressing my poetry. I thought I looked stupid doing these things,
    >>> but after the assembly, teachers, students, and principals
    >>> complimented me on my performance. This was a pivital point for me in
    >>> my life. I realized that what others thought was not important, it was
    >>> all about me. I have been labeled dumb, slow, retared, stupid,
    >>> unintelligent, charcoal, homely, and ruined by Ebonics. But because I
    >>> believed I was brilliant, I continued to overcome obstacles to life.
    >>> Life is a learning experience. I thank God that I am 25 years old, and
    >>> have made it out the projects of Chicago. Although others around me--
    >>> my brother, sister, father, and mother were plagued by drug abuse,
    >>> illness, and prison life, I was able to accomplish many things before
    >>> the age of 15, including starting my own motivational speaking
    >>> company. I am evidence that all children are brilliant. I was dumb
    >>> when I thought I was dumb. When I realized that my thoughts were
    >>> powerful and that my environment was only external, I demanded change
    >>> and got it.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 8/03/07, hmmmm wrote:
    >>>> sorry, can't tell you about "the secret" because i haven't read it.
    >>> just saw the oprah
    >>>> episode about it. sounds like what you are talking about.
    >>>>
    >>>> thanks for the sarcasm. i'm done with you. talk about negativity.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 8/03/07, SuccessFriend wrote:
    >>>>> I have been trained by Teach for America and by the great Marva
    >>>>> Collins of Chicago who has proven the fact that all kids are
    >>>>> brilliant. Based on your remedial response, I understand why you
    >>>>> believe what you believe. You don't even believe in yourself, let
    >>>>> alone in a beautiful child full of potential. Your belief system
    >>>>> is damaged with negative thinking. I read a variety of materials,
    >>>>> including John C. Maxwell, Napoleon Hill, the Bible, Wayne Dyer,
    >>>>> Malcolm X, Harry Wong, and the list goes on and on. I have heard
    >>>>> of the "Secret" but haven't had the opportunity to read it. Can
    >>>>> you tell me more about it, since you know so much about it?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 8/02/07, hmmm wrote:
    >>>>>> what i'm hearing you type is that all people have the same
    >>>>>> capability to learn, and that's simply not true.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> sounds like you've been reading "the secret".
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 8/02/07, SuccessFriend wrote:
    >>>>>>> Brilliant is the correct terminology. Children are brilliant
    >>>>>>> because they have the potential to learn as much and as
    >>>>>>> quickly as any adult. Children are sponges. With the right
    >>>>>>> adult influence in their lives and the will to do it, they can
    >>>>>>> explore many possibilities. Intelligence is not a measurable
    >>>>>>> thing, although many try to measure it. Because the mind is
    >>>>>>> always expanding, your so-called intelliegence level changes
    >>>>>>> daily, as with every cell in your body. No one stays the same
    >>>>>>> unless they are not allowed to explore their brilliance.
    >>>>>>> Intelligence is more that memorizing facts and doing basic
    >>>>>>> mathematical operations. It involves intuition and creativity,
    >>>>>>> which every human being possesses. We do not allow our
    >>>>>>> children in America to feel capable because we are too busy
    >>>>>>> pointing out their weaknesses. When in fact we should be
    >>>>>>> focusing on their stregths. One may "appear" to be more
    >>>>>>> intelligent than the next, when in reality we all are unique
    >>>>>>> individuals. We all learn in different ways. We cannot
    >>>>>>> categorize ourselves as disabled because we are not presented
    >>>>>>> information in our appropriate mode of learning. Who are we to
    >>>>>>> judge? We are all uniquely brilliant, even if we don't believe
    >>>>>>> it. The reason I KNOW that I am brilliant is because I believe
    >>>>>>> it. The reason I KNOW every child is brilliant is because I
    >>>>>>> believe it. The children I encounter are brilliant because I
    >>>>>>> help them to see why they are uniquely brilliant. They were
    >>>>>>> created from the same material as Einstein, Bill Gates, Oprah
    >>>>>>> or any other successful person. We all come to the Earth on a
    >>>>>>> clean slate. Our beliefs about ourselves determine how
    >>>>>>> intelligent we actually become. Intelligence is not only in
    >>>>>>> the mind, it begins in the heart. If you believe you are
    >>>>>>> smart, then you are. You will begin to behave in such a way to
    >>>>>>> harmonize with being a smart person. If you believe you are
    >>>>>>> dumb, then you will begin to behave in a "dumb" manner. Its
    >>>>>>> all about perception. I want to open all of our eyes as
    >>>>>>> educators to understand that ALL KIDS ARE BRILLIANT. The
    >>>>>>> future is full of possibilities. Look at Dr. Ben Carson who
    >>>>>>> was labeled special ed. Look what he has become just through
    >>>>>>> the sheer determination of his mother, who always told him how
    >>>>>>> smart he was. If you tell kids they are smart, they will have
    >>>>>>> no choice but to eventually believe it. But if you continue to
    >>>>>>> tell children that the person sitting next to them
    >>>>>>> is "smarter" because he passed the test with a 90&37; average,
    >>>>>>> then you are sending a strong negative message. You are saying
    >>>>>>> that some are born smart, and others dumb. That couldn't be
    >>>>>>> farther from the truth. Again, until you believe that you are
    >>>>>>> brilliant, how can you see the brilliance in any other human
    >>>>>>> being. We cannot sit around and judge others based on our own
    >>>>>>> DISability to see life as what it really is. People are all
    >>>>>>> the same in the core, and every person is full of
    >>>>>>> possibilities. It is when you believe that something isn't
    >>>>>>> possible that you give up on life. Let's not give up on our
    >>>>>>> children by labeling them and hinting around about Bell curves
    >>>>>>> and other antiquated psychology. We are in the information
    >>>>>>> age, not the industrial age. The education system is 40 years
    >>>>>>> behind, and it shows by the opions expressed by educators who
    >>>>>>> have little vision. Lets clear our goggles and see children
    >>>>>>> for what they really are---BRILLIANT!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On 8/02/07, hmmmm wrote:
    >>>>>>>> saying that all children are "brilliant" sounds to me like
    >>>>>>> saying that all children
    >>>>>>>> are "special." if everyone's special, then special loses
    >>>>>>> its actual meaning and
    >>>>>>>> negates itself, making no one actually special.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> imho, defining brilliant as "all children have talents" is
    >>>>>>> more accurate. but in
    >>>>>>>> terms of pure intelligence, i disagree. i see evidence of
    >>>>>>> the 'ol bell curve every
    >>>>>>>> year. not every student is intellectually brilliant, but
    >>>>>>> they all have a talent.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> On 3/28/07, Success Friend wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Our children in America are being cheated in many ways. I
    >>>>>>>>> want you to first remember who is teaching our children---
    >>>>>>>>> children who have increased in age and who probably
    >>>>>>>>> received the same public education growing up. These
    >>>>>>>>> former public education students are now given the
    >>>>>>>>> label "teacher," because of a 4-year degree and a state
    >>>>>>>>> teaching licensure. No matter how "educated" a teacher
    >>>>>>>>> appears to be, it does not guarantee that he or she is an
    >>>>>>>>> effective teacher. An effective teacher is able to teach
    >>>>>>>>> well because he or she is constantly learning right along
    >>>>>>>>> with the students. Teachers have seemed to lose their
    >>>>>>>>> ability to learn. Why do I say this? Well, because
    >>>>>>>>> students are rapidly changing, so should our methodology
    >>>>>>>>> for teaching students must change as well. The students
    >>>>>>>>> you have this year are very different from the students
    >>>>>>>>> you taught 5 years ago. The truth is that EVERY student is
    >>>>>>>>> very different from the next. Therefore, an individualized
    >>>>>>>>> instructional plan is neccessary to help students learn.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I believe that we are too quick to label our
    >>>>>>>>> students "special education" because of low performance on
    >>>>>>>>> standardized tests. I know for a fact that EVERY child,
    >>>>>>>>> regardless of his or her perceived disability is
    >>>>>>>>> BRILLIANT! Until we collectively as a community start to
    >>>>>>>>> believe in the brilliance of our children, then they will
    >>>>>>>>> continue to perform at a low capacity. We are too busy
    >>>>>>>>> looking for our children's disabilities rather than their
    >>>>>>>>> abilities. With that said, teachers should especially
    >>>>>>>>> believe in the brilliance of their students and treat them
    >>>>>>>>> as such. Just because little Johnny doesn't analyze
    >>>>>>>>> mathematical equations with the same accuracy as Jackie
    >>>>>>>>> doesn't mean that Jackie is more intelligent than Johnny.
    >>>>>>>>> It only means that Johnny has some other talent--like the
    >>>>>>>>> drawings he makes in his notebook that his teacher
    >>>>>>>>> repeatedly asks him to "put away." When you ask kids to
    >>>>>>>>> surpress their God-given talents and focus on some other
    >>>>>>>>> skill they have no enjoyment or interest in, then you are
    >>>>>>>>> creating an unhappy and unproductive child.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Only until we start to learn how to adapt state standards
    >>>>>>>>> to a child's given talent, we will continue to subject our
    >>>>>>>>> children to hell in the classroom. It must feel like hell
    >>>>>>>>> to sit in a school for 6 hours a day and learn absolutely
    >>>>>>>>> nothing! The left-brain focused curricula of most public
    >>>>>>>>> schools neglects the right -brain potential of every
    >>>>>>>>> student. Every student can learn how to think. They first
    >>>>>>>>> have to believe in their brilliance, then learn to use
    >>>>>>>>> their talents to increase their knowledge and potential
    >>>>>>>>> for success.

     
     

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