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My Wild 1st Grade Art Classes Argh!

by Hmmm

Jan 20, 2014

Is it just me or are the 1st graders just hard to get a control in art? I teach in 2 elementaries where the 1st grade classroom teachers are in their 1st thru 3rd year of employment and their kids are all over the place (fighting, tattling on each other, chasing each other around) when I am trying to do a lesson. Even the kindergarteners act more mature and do what I ask but kindergarteners are kindergarteners and are still wormy but manageable. The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th also have normal expected behavior........I suppose I need to just do more simple art lessons if these 1st graders as they are still not settling down after a half a year. The 1st grade classroom teachers are nice but maybe they are letting their kids run the show in their rooms who knows. But I am seeing a pattern (young classroom teachers=wild 1st graders) there though when they show up to my room. I once resorted to a peer monitoring where 1st grade students would observe each other for good and bad behavior during...See More

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Beth Special Needs Do you have a Smartboard? Try classroom Dojo. If not could you tape a large blank sheet of paper where everyone can see and tell the kids you are going to paint them a picture to take back to their room. Then every time they exhibit desired behavior, paint a section of the picture. When it is finished, let them all sign it too because their good be...See More

Jan 20, 2014

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Ms. W. Oh, that paint a picture idea is BRILLIANT!!! I'm starting with a new class that is reportedly awful (by their teacher ane their last resource) and I might try that!! Our first grade classes can be wild as well but I've found that making everything seem like the most exciting party EVER really gets them motivated and keeps them in line a bit. I don...See MoreOh, that paint a picture idea is BRILLIANT!!! I'm starting with a new class that is reportedly awful (by their teacher ane their last resource) and I might try that!! Our first grade classes can be wild as well but I've found that making everything seem like the most exciting party EVER really gets them motivated and keeps them in line a bit. I don't pull out the super strict stuff with them a lot because I feel like they are already out of control and I have to make it the best time ever in my room (even if we don't get much done). I include some short videos or songs that relate to the project since I'm lucky enough to have a projector. Their teacher has no place telling youwhat you can do in your classroom, unless it is a school wide policy (and even then she is out of line). You have to do what works for you. I have even talked to the class about making it a special time in the art room - that things can be different and that we can listen and learn down there. I do use LOTS of time outs with 1-2 warnings. Those can be hard to implement. I also do a lot of recognition of individuals who are at least trying to do the right thing. (trying at first, then upping the level I'm looking for). Its not GREAT in my room with the wild classes, but things are pretty out of control at my school and I find the first grade the easiest grade level to motivate.

I'd use Class Dojo if I had online access or a better signal on my cell in my basement room.

On 1/20/14, Beth Special Needs wrote: > Do you have a Smartboard? Try classroom Dojo. > If not could > you tape a large blank sheet of paper where everyone can see > and > tell the kids you are going to paint them a picture to > take back to their room. > Then every time they exhibit > desired behavior, paint a section of the picture. > When it is > finished, let them all sign it too because their good behavior > helped > to make it. > > > On 1/20/14, Hmmm wrote: > >> Is it just me or are the 1st graders just hard to get a >> control in art? I teach in 2 elementaries where the 1st >> grade classroom teachers are in their 1st thru 3rd year of >> employment and their kids are all over the place (fighting, >> tattling on each other, chasing each other around) when I >> am trying to do a lesson. Even the kindergarteners act more >> mature and do what I ask but kindergarteners are >> kindergarteners and are still wormy but manageable. The >> 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th also have normal expected >> behavior........I suppose I need to just do more simple art >> lessons if these 1st graders as they are still not settling >> down after a half a year. The 1st grade classroom teachers >> are nice but maybe they are letting their kids run the show >> in their rooms who knows. But I am seeing a pattern (young >> classroom teachers=wild 1st graders) there though when they >> show up to my room. I once resorted to a peer monitoring >> where 1st grade students would observe each other for good >> and bad behavior during class and it worked somewhat in >> quieting them down (peer influence factor), and then the >> young 1st grade classroom teacher found out it about an >> forbid me from using it ever again. Hmmm!

Jan 21, 2014

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Hmmm... Thanks for the input Ms. W and Beth. I will give it a try, any and all ideas are great. On 1/21/14, Ms. W. wrote: > Oh, that paint a picture idea is BRILLIANT!!! I'm starting with a > new class that is reportedly awful (by their teacher ane their > last resource) and I might try that!! > Our first grade classes can be wild as well but I...See MoreThanks for the input Ms. W and Beth. I will give it a try, any and all ideas are great. On 1/21/14, Ms. W. wrote: > Oh, that paint a picture idea is BRILLIANT!!! I'm starting with a > new class that is reportedly awful (by their teacher ane their > last resource) and I might try that!! > Our first grade classes can be wild as well but I've found that > making everything seem like the most exciting party EVER really > gets them motivated and keeps them in line a bit. I don't pull > out the super strict stuff with them a lot because I feel like > they are already out of control and I have to make it the best > time ever in my room (even if we don't get much done). I include > some short videos or songs that relate to the project since I'm > lucky enough to have a projector. > Their teacher has no place telling youwhat you can do in your > classroom, unless it is a school wide policy (and even then she is > out of line). You have to do what works for you. I have even > talked to the class about making it a special time in the art room > - that things can be different and that we can listen and learn > down there. I do use LOTS of time outs with 1-2 warnings. Those > can be hard to implement. I also do a lot of recognition of > individuals who are at least trying to do the right thing. (trying > at first, then upping the level I'm looking for). Its not GREAT > in my room with the wild classes, but things are pretty out of > control at my school and I find the first grade the easiest grade > level to motivate. > > I'd use Class Dojo if I had online access or a better signal on my > cell in my basement room. > > On 1/20/14, Beth Special Needs wrote: > Do you have a Smartboard? > Try classroom Dojo. >> If not could >> you tape a large blank sheet of paper where everyone can see >> and >> tell the kids you are going to paint them a picture to >> take back to their room. >> Then every time they exhibit >> desired behavior, paint a section of the picture. >> When it is >> finished, let them all sign it too because their good behavior >> helped >> to make it. >> >> >> On 1/20/14, Hmmm wrote: >> >>> Is it just me or are the 1st graders just hard to get a >>> control in art? I teach in 2 elementaries where the 1st >>> grade classroom teachers are in their 1st thru 3rd year of >>> employment and their kids are all over the place (fighting, >>> tattling on each other, chasing each other around) when I >>> am trying to do a lesson. Even the kindergarteners act more >>> mature and do what I ask but kindergarteners are >>> kindergarteners and are still wormy but manageable. The >>> 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th also have normal expected >>> behavior........I suppose I need to just do more simple art >>> lessons if these 1st graders as they are still not settling >>> down after a half a year. The 1st grade classroom teachers >>> are nice but maybe they are letting their kids run the show >>> in their rooms who knows. But I am seeing a pattern (young >>> classroom teachers=wild 1st graders) there though when they >>> show up to my room. I once resorted to a peer monitoring >>> where 1st grade students would observe each other for good >>> and bad behavior during class and it worked somewhat in >>> quieting them down (peer influence factor), and then the >>> young 1st grade classroom teacher found out it about an >>> forbid me from using it ever again. Hmmm!

Jan 22, 2014

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monica Take heart; it is probably nothing that you are doing or not doing. I too, have some rowdy classes. I think there are a lot of factors that can be attributed, but I agree with you---that if the classroom teacher doesn't have control, you probably won't be able to get it in the hour that you have them, either. I find it appalling that the teacher fo...See MoreTake heart; it is probably nothing that you are doing or not doing. I too, have some rowdy classes. I think there are a lot of factors that can be attributed, but I agree with you---that if the classroom teacher doesn't have control, you probably won't be able to get it in the hour that you have them, either. I find it appalling that the teacher forbade you from using a technique---since that's not her call. If my classes are rowdy to the point that I can't teach them, I make them put their heads down. Sometimes only for a few minutes to make a point, sometimes longer if they were really disrespectful to me and my class. Some of the classroom teachers are supportive; some are not. So I do what I need to do to survive. On 1/22/14, Hmmm... wrote: > Thanks for the input Ms. W and Beth. I will give it a try, any and > all ideas are great. > > On 1/21/14, Ms. W. wrote: > >> Oh, that paint a picture idea is BRILLIANT!!! I'm starting with a >> new class that is reportedly awful (by their teacher ane their >> last resource) and I might try that!! >> Our first grade classes can be wild as well but I've found that >> making everything seem like the most exciting party EVER really >> gets them motivated and keeps them in line a bit. I don't pull >> out the super strict stuff with them a lot because I feel like >> they are already out of control and I have to make it the best >> time ever in my room (even if we don't get much done). I include >> some short videos or songs that relate to the project since I'm >> lucky enough to have a projector. >> Their teacher has no place telling youwhat you can do in your >> classroom, unless it is a school wide policy (and even then she is >> out of line). You have to do what works for you. I have even >> talked to the class about making it a special time in the art room >> - that things can be different and that we can listen and learn >> down there. I do use LOTS of time outs with 1-2 warnings. Those >> can be hard to implement. I also do a lot of recognition of >> individuals who are at least trying to do the right thing. (trying >> at first, then upping the level I'm looking for). Its not GREAT >> in my room with the wild classes, but things are pretty out of >> control at my school and I find the first grade the easiest grade >> level to motivate. >> >> I'd use Class Dojo if I had online access or a better signal on my >> cell in my basement room. >> >> On 1/20/14, Beth Special Needs wrote: > Do you have a Smartboard? >> Try classroom Dojo. >>> If not could >>> you tape a large blank sheet of paper where everyone can see >>> and >>> tell the kids you are going to paint them a picture to >>> take back to their room. >>> Then every time they exhibit >>> desired behavior, paint a section of the picture. >>> When it is >>> finished, let them all sign it too because their good behavior >>> helped >>> to make it. >>> >>> >>> On 1/20/14, Hmmm wrote: >>> >>>> Is it just me or are the 1st graders just hard to get a >>>> control in art? I teach in 2 elementaries where the 1st >>>> grade classroom teachers are in their 1st thru 3rd year of >>>> employment and their kids are all over the place (fighting, >>>> tattling on each other, chasing each other around) when I >>>> am trying to do a lesson. Even the kindergarteners act more >>>> mature and do what I ask but kindergarteners are >>>> kindergarteners and are still wormy but manageable. The >>>> 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th also have normal expected >>>> behavior........I suppose I need to just do more simple art >>>> lessons if these 1st graders as they are still not settling >>>> down after a half a year. The 1st grade classroom teachers >>>> are nice but maybe they are letting their kids run the show >>>> in their rooms who knows. But I am seeing a pattern (young >>>> classroom teachers=wild 1st graders) there though when they >>>> show up to my room. I once resorted to a peer monitoring >>>> where 1st grade students would observe each other for good >>>> and bad behavior during class and it worked somewhat in >>>> quieting them down (peer influence factor), and then the >>>> young 1st grade classroom teacher found out it about an >>>> forbid me from using it ever again. Hmmm!

Mar 2, 2014

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