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Re: Dibels reading assess.
Posted by Sandi on 11/02/06
My concern regarding DIBELS is not in the assessment itself. I use DIBELS and I like it. However, I use it in a manner for which it was intended. My thoughts as a Reading Specialist: Phonemic Awareness and Phonics instruction are very important for children learning to decode and encode. (By the way Phonemic Awareness and Phonics instruction is different! Phonemic Awareness instruction is done without letter representations and 10 minutes/daily is sufficient. Phonics is associating the sounds to letters)Since it is so important and many teachers of young children are still not convinced of that fact, I believe the DIBLES helps to drive that point. Assessment always drives instruction, which is one purpose for using it. The other is as a predictor of which students may be needing early intervention. By no means should any one category deficit determine anything but the student doesn't do that particular skill well. By the same token, a student who fairs poorly on all the categories, is probably in some trouble. If a student receives more instruction and doesn't show progress, further in-depth instructional study is warranted. The point that students never need to read "nonsense" words is only partially true. Any word unknown to a student may be nonsense to him/her. That's the point of decoding. It's impossible to learn every word in the dictionary, but our brains can learn patterns, thereby helping us decode those unknown or "nonsense" words. DIBELS isn't just encouraging kids to read mumbo- jumbo, but nonsense words are the only true way to know if a word has been decoded or become a part of the sight vocabulary. I also believe when students start decoding multisyllabic words, these early DIBELS skills will serve them well. By no means should this one assessment be used to determine rigid unchanging reading groups, nor should it be used to determine grades or class placement. I don't bother with the retell portion, I use other measures for that particular skill, as I use other measures for comprehension. All professionals need to use tests for their intended purposes. One test never tells the entire story. I don't believe DIBLES is bad, maybe some people just use it improperly. To the mom concerned about her son being "bored" in his instructional group. If he's in that group for ten minutes of instruction, don't worry about it. He'll probably benefit in the long run, and it most likely won't hurt him. If he's been placed in an inappropriate instructional group for large amounts of time based only on the DIBELS information, you may need a conference with more than just his teacher. A supervisor shouldn't be letting that happen. I will caution you about he "bored" comment. Not everything in life has to be interesting to be important. His computer games can entertain him..........let his teacher instruct him without having to stand on her head or flash images at him at light speed like his television does. In response to the DAR questions............I like it also. But again, as a basic indicator. I have also prepared my own nonsense word lists categorized by specific phonic element. That's how I really know what the student needs to learn. I do find the DAR lacking in the comprehension assessment. Again, it's designed to be a quick check to help a teacher tailor a student's instruction.
Posts on this thread, including this one
- Dibels reading assess., 2/25/04, by Nancy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 2/29/04, by Amy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 5/15/04, by Rachel.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 6/05/04, by ellie.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 7/03/04, by Rose-Ann McKernan.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 3/25/05, by Cheryle.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 3/25/05, by Cheryle.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 7/14/05, by A.
- Re: To A:Dibels reading assess., 7/14/05, by kteacher271.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 7/14/05, by Cheryle.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 10/26/05, by Jeff.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 10/31/05, by Monica.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 11/27/05, by Mary Kay Starkey.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 12/08/05, by Maureen.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 12/08/05, by Maureen.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 1/11/06, by Kim.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 2/04/06, by Pearl.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 2/08/06, by Darlene.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 2/11/06, by been there, done that.
- Re: Dibels a toothpick!, 2/11/06, by Nancy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 3/04/06, by Kathy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 4/04/06, by Margaret Turner.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 4/06/06, by Nancy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 6/28/06, by Kathy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 7/06/06, by Robin.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 9/03/06, by Ginny.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 9/03/06, by Ginny.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 9/10/06, by Parent1115.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 9/23/06, by Kathy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 9/23/06, by Kathy.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 11/02/06, by Sandi.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 11/22/06, by Ms. Altman.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 12/03/06, by Jane Bain.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 1/01/07, by plcarlson.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 1/30/07, by Kristin.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 5/15/07, by Thomas Davis.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 5/30/07, by a reading teacher.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 5/30/07, by a reading teacher.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 6/02/07, by k teacher.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 3/10/08, by JULIE.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 3/10/08, by julie.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 3/11/08, by capitalize I.
- Re: Dibels reading assess., 4/17/08, by Michelle.
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