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Re: Dibels reading assess.
Posted by Ms. Altman on 11/22/06

    I loathe Dibels. In one of my graduate courses for special education I had a
    professor that went on and one about great DIBELS is...The only thing great about
    DIBELS is that it is free.


    On 9/23/06, Kathy wrote:
    > YIKES!!! It frightens me that an experience educator thinks that DIBELS is
    > measuring the reading process. The reading process is a complex process that
    > we have only begun to understand. I am concerned about U.S. Department of
    > Education findings that many programs and assessments have been seen as "Not
    > scientifically researched" based on a panel of people who were more interested
    > in profit than helping our children learn to read in the most effective and
    > efficient way. There is information that DIBELS does not do as much as it
    > claims. I urge any teachers!!! Stand up, be courageous. We are the ones in the
    > trenches. We are the experts. Why do we continually let others tell us what
    > is best for our children? We know them best. I hope that we have moved beyond
    > the whole language vs. phonics war. When our gut tells us that something isn't
    > quite right we need to shout loudly and clearly. We should be the strongest
    > advocates for our children.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On 9/03/06, Ginny wrote:
    >> We have been trained to believe that DIBELS is an effective way to assess
    >> student reading skills. I have been reading "The Truth About DIBELS" by
    >> Kenneth S. Goodman and am concerned that I have been only told one side of
    >> the story by my state leaders and U of O. I don't want to implement DIBELS
    >> without being very sure that the time, money to be spent equals valid
    >> information. I am also concerned about the affects Dr. Goodman state about
    >> how the timed testing is not valid in 5-7 year olds and the stress it places
    >> on the children.
    >>
    >> I would appreciate anyone who has information that will help me make a
    >> determination. Is this a "Whole Language" vs. "Phonics" war where we are
    >> talking about personal opinons or is it a real.
    >>
    >> Thank your for your thoughts.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 4/04/06, Margaret Turner wrote:
    >>> On 3/04/06, Kathy wrote:
    >>>> I am an administrator looking at better ways to diagnose reading
    >>>> difficulties for our special education children in the elementary
    >>>> grades. We currently use observation survy in the early grades and
    >>>> frankly, it is hit and miss for children thereafter relative to specific
    >>>> skills. This leaves the inclusion class teachers struggling to teach
    >>>> without a clear understanding of what needs to be supported, etc.
    >>>> Anything you can tell me would help inform our team - thanks!
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> On 1/11/06, Kim wrote:
    >>>>> Maureen, We are also considering DIBELS as an assessment tool. I
    >>>>> would be very interested in reading your paper. Please e-mail it to
    >>>>> me.
    >>>>> Thanks,
    >>>>> Kim
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 12/08/05, Maureen wrote:
    >>>>>> On 7/14/05, Cheryle wrote:
    >>>>>>> On 7/14/05, A wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I am looking at DIBELS as a potential tool to use in my first
    >>>>>>>> grade classroom after attending a fluency PD this summer. The
    >>>>>>>> teacher leading the session, and several of the teachers in the
    >>>>>>>> session really liked this assessment, which is required for the
    >>>>>>>> Kentucky Reading First schools. (My school is not a Reading
    >>>>>>>> First school.) We are required to administer the DRA, and I
    >>>>>>>> think I will try DIBELS this year too. It is available free of
    >>>>>>>> charge from the DIBELS website.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> I am interested in any feedback from folks who have used this
    >>>>>>>> assessment - pro and con. Please don't spare me your real
    >>>>>>>> opinion just because I am thinking of using it. I really want to
    >>>>>>>> know.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Thanks!
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> This past year was the first that we used DIBELS in our district.
    >>>>>>> It has been mandated by the state. It can be time consuming,
    >>>>>>> especially in the grades K-2. Third grade only has the oral reading
    >>>>>>> fluency test. I used it to help me pinpoint areas where particular
    >>>>>>> children needed help. However, my co=workers and I found faults
    >>>>>>> with it as well. I would recommend going to the University of
    >>>>>>> Oregon website (Official DIBELS Homepage.
    >>>>>>> http://dibels.uoregon.edu/) and read the technical papers listed
    >>>>>>> there, especially Technical Report #10 by Good and Kaminsky.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> My curiosity was aroused when we found that students followed a
    >>>>>>> pattern of pass-fail-pass-fail and so on. TR #10 explains how the
    >>>>>>> creators of DIBELS leveled the passages. It makes no sense to me.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> For one of my Master's classes I wrote a paper on my findings in my
    >>>>>>> classroom. I would be glad to email it to you if you are interested
    >>>>>>> in reading it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I am studying for the National Boards. I would love to read the
    >>>>> paper
    >>>>>> you wrote on it. Thanks,
    >>>>>> Maureen
    >>>
    >>> Hi, I am Margaret Turner. I'm a reading coach in Florida. We've been
    >>> using the DIBELS Assessment for about 5 years now. We find it to be
    >>> invaluable in predicting success and failure in reading. What we had to
    >>> learn was that the dibels is assessing the reading process itself. The
    >>> reading process develops the way the dibels assesses; phonemic and
    >>> phonological awareness,the alphabetic principle, phonics, and finally oral
    >>> reading fluency. If we can help the children develop the skills in each
    >>> one of those categories, the goal of reading fluency will happen. From
    >>> there, our real goal, comprehension will occur. It's a process. The
    >>> children can't skip any or the processes and be successful readers. The
    >>> DIBELS allows us to see where they are in the process and address that
    >>> area of weakness. Usually, it works very well.
    >>> Sometimes we have students that can't seem to get it no matter what you do.
    >>> I'm looking for an assessment for those students.

     
     

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