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A question!!!!!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Jan 13, 2017

In all of the fury of the Trump/Russia whatever, a question: What is the purpose?

First, Trump was Putin's puppet. Then Russia could blackmail Trump! If you are one of those railing against Mr. Trump tell us:

1. Is your goal just to draw an ugly picture of Mr. Trump?

2. Is your goal to lock in Russia as an enemy, so that Pres. Trump can not negotiate and work with the Russians?

3. Is your goal to find a way to force Mr. Trump to resign from the presidency to be replaced by Mr. Pence - who in my opinion is an insider the oligarchs would love?

I think the goal is number 3, and that we are seeing - and some are unwittingly participating in - a classic coup d'etat - the kind the CIA has been doing for decades.

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Cha Cha to TEC > On 1/13/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: >> In all of the fury of the Trump/Russia whatever, a > question:

>> What is the purpose?

TEC, I gather from what I've seen on the net that to many Trump haters, all this fury and fake news is simply PAYBACK for the birthers! Since the birthers bored us to death with their ridi...See More

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long-time lurker On 1/13/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > In all of the fury of the Trump/Russia whatever, a question: > What is the purpose? > > First, Trump was Putin's puppet. Then Russia could > blackmail Trump! If you are one of those railing against > Mr. Trump tell us: > > 1. Is your goal just to draw an ugly picture of Mr. Trump? > >...See More

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no answers but a lot of digested horse fodder On 1/13/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > In all of the fury of the Trump/Russia whatever, a question: > What is the purpose? > > First, Trump was Putin's puppet. Then Russia could > blackmail Trump! If you are one of those railing against > Mr. Trump tell us:

Trump was a puppet? Uh no.

> 3. Is your goal to find a w...See More

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T.E.C. - Iowa I thought "long time lurker" had the best response. The point of the post was really about the demonization of Russia. Not that Putin is a good guy, but that we must have a talking relationship with even those with whom we disagree. Trump is right about Russia on this one - we need to talk! This is also why some of this looks like an effo...See MoreI thought "long time lurker" had the best response. The point of the post was really about the demonization of Russia. Not that Putin is a good guy, but that we must have a talking relationship with even those with whom we disagree. Trump is right about Russia on this one - we need to talk! This is also why some of this looks like an effort to get rid of Trump and replace him with Pence.

It appears - and there are many articles on this - that the "deep state" wants some kind of conflict with Russia, and Trump could mess that up. This conflict would be dangerous, but the military industrial complex always wants more money. Frankly, this demonization looks like a preparation for war of some type.

And about Russia and the election, no proof has been offered. However, let us assume they did. So what, not only do we do the same, but so does every other country in the world that has the capacity to do so.

Plus, why all of the uproar about Russia, and no talk of gerrymandering, changing polling locations, changing polling hours or eliminating early voting days, reducing the number of polling places, voter ID laws, and Hillary rigging the democratic primary (for which she should be in jail). All of these impact the election results. But no, everything is outrage about Russia.

There are multiple reasons for the outrage, which is more than can be handled here. However, one reason can be seen when Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. asked Retired Gen. James Mattis if America has a strong enough military to be able to deter against those threats and he responded "No, sir."

America spends $600 billion on the military, add in NATO and you are at $900 billion. Russia and China each spend about $50 billion and $150 billion, respectively. Basically, our side is spending 5 times what the other side is spending and it is not enough (that $600 billion is not all we spend on defense).

Brace yourself for more cuts in the spending on any and all things that might make America better. The military industrial complex wants your tax dollars and they will use the demonization of Russia to get it. In the industry's view "OMG, don't talk to Russia! We might agree on something and cut military spending on both sides."

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