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    Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?
    Posted by: Mom to Three on 11/30/09
    (20) Comments

    You are so right on Kate!!! As the wife of an engineering professor who
    has focused on educating and preparing undergraduate engineers with a
    21st century skills set for 30 years, I can tell you his interest and
    focus have not been appreciate. But oh well, he decided a long time ago
    he did not want to spend his career on just educating a few foreign
    graduate students a year. The unfortunate truth is that the entire
    paradigm of tenure and promotion is focused in most cases on research
    dollars, publications and then teaching. And, one class a year is not
    unheard of or one a semester, but to just a small group of grad students
    in a very narrow area so you don't really have to prepare much.

    The interesting thing that my husband and his fellow senior cohorts are
    watching is that as they cram more undergrads into larger and larger
    engineering classes to pay for the researcher equipment in a few years
    even the one course person is going to be facing 70 or more more
    students!! The other thing that is happening across education is that
    universities are becoming more and more dependent on hiring adjuncts
    rather then tenure track faculty or else hiring folks and letting them
    go without tenure after six years or so. Now sometimes the undergrades
    luck out and can get a practicing or even retired engineer for example
    who knows a lot and really enjoys the outlet of teaching. BUT you can
    also find a person who wants some extra dollars or to try teaching, but
    does not have the skills and then it is just a trying experience for
    both sides.

    At some point the cost of college education even in state schools is
    going to be the factor that is going to bring about real change, but it
    may be another 10 or so years. It is very sad to see how many are in
    college education and have very little interest in what should be the
    finished product - the student at least on the undergraduate level. The
    system at least in engineering is destroying a generation of future
    American-born engineers as many just are so fed up by senior year that
    they opt for law, business or even medicine rather than an advanced
    engineering degree.

    On 8/27/09, Kate wrote:
    > Not that this is right, but major universities do not reward
    > professors for good teaching. It's not how it works. Research dollars
    > are the key, in science and engineering, anyway. When the people
    > teaching fight over who gets to NOT teach, a communication class
    > isn't going to help. JMO, and yes, I have witnessed several
    > professors griping about teaching one class, once a year (not once a
    > semester).
    >
    > On 8/26/09, sspil wrote:
    >> It's not just teachers who don't have knowledge, it those who
    >> can't communicate it to others that are a problem as well. I've
    >> run into many very knowledgeable people who were very bad
    >> teachers. Just because you know your subject, doesn't mean you
    >> can communicate it to others. Some of the most brilliant people
    >> in their field are horrid teachers. Perhaps they should require
    >> all those who plan to teach at a university to take a class on
    >> communication skills.


    Posts on this thread, including this one

  • Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 8/23/09, by No problem....
  • Re: Such teachers are condinued because..., 8/24/09, by L. Swilley .
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 8/24/09, by been there.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 8/26/09, by sspil.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 8/27/09, by Kate.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 8/29/09, by bernoulli.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 9/01/09, by sspil.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 11/30/09, by Mom to Three.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/03/09, by bernoulli again.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/04/09, by Mom to Three.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/04/09, by bernoulli.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/05/09, by former undergrad.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/05/09, by bernoulli.
  • Re: Such teachers are condinued because..., 12/13/09, by Bury That One.
  • Re: Such teachers are condinued because..., 12/15/09, by crystal.
  • Re: Such teachers are condinued because..., 12/15/09, by anon.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/27/09, by nobody but the students seem to care.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 12/31/09, by Dr. C.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 1/27/10, by test.
  • Re: Not qualified to teach? Who cares?, 2/03/10, by Math Teach.