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Re: Needy Students Driving Me CRAZY
Posted by Angie- 2nd Grade on 4/02/08

    I have felt the exact same way too! I am also in my second year
    of teaching, and I often feel annoyed by their interruptions.
    Something that I have found that works is having them all
    practice standing by me and waiting while I am talking to
    someone. I did this at the beginning of the year, and it has
    made a big difference. What I did, what I first demonstrated
    what to do when you need to say something and the other person
    is talking. Then I have one student demonstrate how to do it in
    front of the whole class. Last, I have each of them come up to
    me, wait until I aknowledge them, and then they can speak. It
    may seem extreme, but it works. I did this at the beginning of
    the year with almost everything. Try it and tell me if it
    works, even if it isn't at the beginning of the year!

    On 2/27/08, MMM 2nd grade teacher Florida wrote:
    > I'm in my second YEAR of teaching (2nd grade this year) and
    this
    > EXACT situation fits me to a T.....I have kids that CONSTANTLY
    > get out of their seat to interrupt me, EVEN WHEN i'm talking to
    > an ADULT>..and i find myself snapping...explaining how
    > inconsiderate and rude it is to interrupt ANYONE..let alone an
    > ADULT..and how they are also breaking one of our class rules
    and
    > the AGREEMENT we signed at the beginning of the year...One of
    > the consequences is to put their name on the board and if they
    > end up with 2 checks they will miss our FUn friday celebration.
    > I have tried so many things with this class..that Positive
    > reinforcement is the closest thing to working that i've
    > gotten...and we're already 3/4 of the way through the school
    > year....and i'm seriously losing my mind too. I also pass out
    > gold coins to reward positive behaiviors..and the students can
    > cash in their coins at the end of hte week in the treasure box
    > if they have a total of 10...otherwise htey have to be saved
    for
    > next week. (Sorry about the typos...i'm typing extremely fast
    > right now)
    >
    > Anyway..just wanted to let you know that after 2 years...i'm
    > going through the same thing...and it seems to differ from
    class
    > to class. My class last year was absolutely nothing like this.
    > I actually thought their behavior was bad...but when I got
    this
    > class I realized it was nowhere near this...and that honestly
    > last year I was being hard on myself! If anyone has
    suggestions,
    > I will GLADLY take ANY suggestions because I have been pulling
    > my hair out ALL YEAR. I separated all of my groups today and
    > made my students move their desks into straight rows..which
    they
    > will remain in until after Spring Break..until they can prove
    > they can follow directions..and I told them we will not be
    > playing fun games..just doing paper work ..so they can see how
    > good they had it before..(I know it may sound harsh..but the
    > students act so unappreciative all the time and very
    > disrespectful to me and each other.) We did a lot of hands-on
    > stuff before (that's the way I normally teach)- but they're
    > probably going to be in for a lot more boredom over the next
    > couple weeks...honestly.
    >
    > I'm a little frustrated because just when I have a system in
    > place, I end up getting another new student...I've gotten like
    6
    > new students this school year...and lost like 2..now at a total
    > of 21.which isn't bad compared to some states, but the
    > inconsistency is just ridiculous! (The coming and going isn't
    > helping the classroom management!)
    >
    > MMM-2nd grade teacher
    >
    > On 2/23/08, Kristy wrote:
    >> Gayle,
    >>
    >> Many teahcers feel the same way you do. Why? Because your
    >> situation happens to many teachers. I have a few
    >> suggestions. 1. Clearly state what you do and do not
    >> expect from the students. Say, "When I am the teacher...I
    >> expect that you raise your hand while in your seat if you
    >> have a qustion. 2. Write it down / make a little poster.
    >> 3. When a student does not follow the rule, do not answer
    >> their question or respond...just point to the poster. When
    >> the student returns to their seat and does the expected
    >> behavior kindly call on the student to answer their question
    >> or tell them you will be with them in 1 minute. 4. You must
    >> be consistent. I have even writen on my palm, "Raise Your
    >> Hand". It works, but it takes patience.
    >> "I don't get it?" - If it is the same five students every
    >> time, make it a part of your lesson plan to pull them into a
    >> small group right after everyone else is started to do a
    >> more intensive guided practice. Remember to ask questions
    >> about what they do not understand, sometimes they may not
    >> even know. You can also do talk-throughs...as a small group
    >> or have the student talk you through until they do not
    >> understand. Express that you want to help them and it is ok
    >> to not understand.
    >> Have a group reward for everone completeing an assignment.
    >> Look at positive behavior support articles for ideas.
    >>
    >> Kristy
    >>
    >> On 2/22/08, Gayle wrote:
    >>> I need help!
    >>>
    >>> I just finished my fifth week student teaching in a 4th
    >>> grade classroom and I'm losing my mind. I've worked with
    >>> students K-2 and middle school before, and I feel like
    >>> these 4th graders are the neediest kids I've ever met.
    >>>
    >>> During many lessons I walk students right through many of
    >>> their homework problems as examples, and always ask if
    >>> anyone has questions. Once they start working independently
    >>> on questions, five kids in the class always raise their
    >>> hand and say to me, "I don't get it!" very whiny needy
    >>> sounding. Usually I give them a couple of prompts to get
    >>> them started on the problems and they do fine, and then I
    >>> encourage with "You knew it all along!" but day after day
    >>> they will just sit and stare at their paper instead of
    >>> trying it on their own because they "don't get it." There
    >>> is no motivation to finish assignments, so if they don't
    >>> get it, they just don't bother.
    >>>
    >>> The students also come up and interrupt me when I'm talking
    >>> with other students. Today I was speaking with a student
    >>> during independent work time and a boy came up to me and
    >>> interrupted to tell me that when he went to the office they
    >>> gave him a new icepack. I snapped at the student that his
    >>> comment wasn't something he needed to interrupt me with,
    >>> and then I felt terrible about being rude to him. I don't
    >>> want to be a bad teacher who snaps at students. I
    >>> understand that these students just want approval, but as a
    >>> human being I cannot handle so many interruptions when I'm
    >>> trying to work with students.
    >>>
    >>> I've spoken to my cooperating teacher about this, but I
    >>> think she enjoys feeling needed because she always jumps in
    >>> to help students even when they don't need it. What can I
    >>> do to keep myself sane when my students are so needy in
    >>> class?


 
 
 
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