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Re: The facts for those who want to be PC
CO Teacher

    You, Rodeo & Get a Life seem very passionate about the facts
    (and being "right") about CA teachers/education.I just hope that you are all putting that same energy/passion
    into helping your students to become lifelong learners.


    On 6/07/08, Math teacher wrote:
    > Your argument falls apart quickly when you look at the facts.
    >
    > All state measurements in the listing noted use averages. So
    > it is an apples-apples comparison.
    >
    > ESL is also not a factor since the lowest states on the list
    > are not ESL states. Are the people in Maine speaking French-
    > Canadian and that is why they are so low? Is South Carolina
    > now considered a border state? Why are Arizona and New Mexico
    > so much higher than California? They have large ESL/Spanish
    > populations.
    >
    > No, there is no ESL correlation. You are trying to dance
    > around the facts.
    >
    > California education is in the lower 1/3 of the country.
    >
    >
    > On 6/06/08, Goody Goody wrote:
    >> CA is #35 according to the site.
    >>
    >> These are "average" scores.
    >>
    >> CA did pretty well for a being such large state that is
    >> dealing with so many ESL/ELA students.
    >>
    >> On 6/06/08, Get a life wrote:
    >>> For those whiners who want to be politically correct
    >>> and "goody goody"
    >>>
    >>> State SAT scores for 2007
    >>> http://www.midwestsites.com/stellent2/groups/public/documen
    >>> ts/pub/mws_am_ed_000924.hcsp
    >>>
    >>> Colorado #18
    >>> California #36
    >>>
    >>> Not even close.