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Re: The facts for those who want to be PC
CO Teacher

    Neat. I'm glad you thought it was a "sermon". I'll say a prayer for
    you as well. ;-)
    On 6/07/08, Quit your whining and deal with it wrote:
    > Your inability to accept both observed and empirical proof says
    > quite a bit about you.
    >
    > The fact that you need to try to deflect the conversation away
    > from the topic by giving a sermon is a sign of deep insecurity.
    >
    > What part of California are you from?
    >
    >
    > On 6/07/08, CO Teacher wrote:
    >> You, Rodeo & Get a Life seem very passionate about the facts
    >> (and being "right") about CA teachers/education.
    >>
    >> I just hope that you are all putting that same energy/passion
    >> into helping your students to become lifelong learners.
    >>
    >>
    >> On 6/07/08, Math teacher wrote:
    >>> Your argument falls apart quickly when you look at the facts.
    >>>
    >>> All state measurements in the listing noted use averages. So
    >>> it is an apples-apples comparison.
    >>>
    >>> ESL is also not a factor since the lowest states on the list
    >>> are not ESL states. Are the people in Maine speaking French-
    >>> Canadian and that is why they are so low? Is South Carolina
    >>> now considered a border state? Why are Arizona and New Mexico
    >>> so much higher than California? They have large ESL/Spanish
    >>> populations.
    >>>
    >>> No, there is no ESL correlation. You are trying to dance
    >>> around the facts.
    >>>
    >>> California education is in the lower 1/3 of the country.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 6/06/08, Goody Goody wrote:
    >>>> CA is #35 according to the site.
    >>>>
    >>>> These are "average" scores.
    >>>>
    >>>> CA did pretty well for a being such large state that is
    >>>> dealing with so many ESL/ELA students.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 6/06/08, Get a life wrote:
    >>>>> For those whiners who want to be politically correct
    >>>>> and "goody goody"
    >>>>>
    >>>>> State SAT scores for 2007
    >>>>> http://www.midwestsites.com/stellent2/groups/public/documen
    >>>>> ts/pub/mws_am_ed_000924.hcsp
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Colorado #18
    >>>>> California #36
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Not even close.