SUBSCRIBE chat center Gazette|Chatboards|Lessons|Projects|Classifieds|Mailrings|Jobs|Harry Wong|Live!|Advertise CHATBOARD MAILRING LESSONS SUBMIT POST ALL POSTS TOP POSTS Share | Print | Report Post CO Teachers Chatboard Search Teachers.Net Advanced Quick Links: Set Subscribe to CO-Teachers Hot Now... • September 2008 Gazette • Teacher Tech Center • The Lesson Bank Most Popular • Set Your Quick Links • Chat Center • All Chatboards • Lesson Bank • Teacher Mailrings • Project Center • Classified Ads • Live Chat & Meetings Select by • State/Region • Grade Level • Curriculum • Interest Group • Teaching Method Special Topics • Technology • Languages • Hot Topics • Career Center • Distance Learning • Fundraising • Tutoring Center • Teacher's Bookshelf • Free Printables • Classroom Photos • Meeting Archive • Teaching Articles • Library • Web Tools • Webring • Search • Advertise   Re: Consider reading... Posted by Math Teacher on 6/10/08 Just more excuses. On 6/10/08, Ali wrote: > ESL's not the only problem. Poverty and lack of parental > education as well as the way schools are funded add extensively > to the difficulties American educators face. > > If you want to read up on our national education system, you > should look into Jonathon Kozol's Savage Inequalities and Shame > of the Nation. > > > > On 6/07/08, Math teacher wrote: >> Your argument falls apart quickly when you look at the facts. >> >> All state measurements in the listing noted use averages. So >> it is an apples-apples comparison. >> >> ESL is also not a factor since the lowest states on the list >> are not ESL states. Are the people in Maine speaking French- >> Canadian and that is why they are so low? Is South Carolina >> now considered a border state? Why are Arizona and New Mexico >> so much higher than California? They have large ESL/Spanish >> populations. >> >> No, there is no ESL correlation. You are trying to dance >> around the facts. >> >> California education is in the lower 1/3 of the country. >> >> >> On 6/06/08, Goody Goody wrote: >>> CA is #35 according to the site. >>> >>> These are "average" scores. >>> >>> CA did pretty well for a being such large state that is >>> dealing with so many ESL/ELA students. >>> >>> On 6/06/08, Get a life wrote: >>>> For those whiners who want to be politically correct >>>> and "goody goody" >>>> >>>> State SAT scores for 2007 >>>> http://www.midwestsites.com/stellent2/groups/public/documen >>>> ts/pub/mws_am_ed_000924.hcsp >>>> >>>> Colorado #18 >>>> California #36 >>>> >>>> Not even close. Posts on this thread, including this one The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/06/08, by Get a life. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/06/08, by Goody Goody. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by Get a life. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by Math teacher. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by CO Teacher. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by Quit your whining and deal with it. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by You are a cry-baby. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by You are a cry-baby. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by Math Teacher. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/07/08, by CO Teacher. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/10/08, by Rodeo--no facts in evidence for Co Teacher and ali. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/10/08, by california teacher. Re: You lose, Rodeo. Try again. , 6/10/08, by Ali. Re: To: Get a Life, Math Teacher, Rodeo, 6/10/08, by Ali. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/10/08, by CO Teacher. Re: ...and one more thing, 6/10/08, by Ali. Re: Consider reading..., 6/10/08, by Ali. Re: Consider reading..., 6/10/08, by Math Teacher. Re: Consider reading..., 6/10/08, by Ali. Re: Consider reading..., 6/11/08, by Math Teacher. Re: Consider reading..., 6/11/08, by teacher. Re: The facts for those who want to be PC, 6/19/08, by Ann J.

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