Re: thinking about getting cross-cert in sped

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Thank you for speaking for "anon."
Again, you are simply wrong, just like anon, in assuming CT's program
doesn't take already credentialed teachers. I ahve already checked into
this!!!!
You missed my question/point entirely, as did anon, and wasted your time
emailing back the exact thing anon said!
I won't bother arguring these points -- if you are not anon, why try to
speak for him?

and as for this statement: that is resentment about an "alternate
> route" training program letting in teachers already licensed elsewhere,
> not resentment about competing with them for jobs,

I do remember anon mentioning the resentment about competition fo jobs. Why
else would their be "resentment" if not for the end result?

On 10/12/09, H wrote:
> I think you misunderstood "anon". I don't believe he/she was talking
> about competition for jobs, but simply for the "alternate route"
> training program itself in regards to "traditional route" teachers. NYC
> Teaching Fellows will not allow an already credentialed teacher (be it
> from NY or another state) to be in that program because it is a program
> specifically for "career changers". It certainly doesn't mean a
> "traditional route" person from another state can't teach in NYC, they
> simply have a completely different application path for someone already
> credentialed (since they wouldn't need to take all the 'training
> courses', etc. that NYC Teaching Fellows involves).
>
> In most states, this is true of their "alternate route" programs as well
> (can't be taken by already credentialed teachers). It doesn't mean that
> an already credentialed teacher from another state is at a disadvantage,
> in fact, it's usually the other way around; they just can't use the
> "alternate route" as a way to change to that state's credential. I
> think he/she was talking about, that is resentment about an "alternate
> route" training program letting in teachers already licensed elsewhere,
> not resentment about competing with them for jobs, most "alternate
> route" programs only deal with shortage areas anyway since that's what
> they're usually designed for.
>
> On 10/08/09, from OP -- still looking for grant options/ reply to "anon"
> wrote:
>> acctually, i know people who have gotten jobs from ARC in special ed.
>> the reason I posted here was b/c I know the program exists in CT, and
>> yes you can get a cross endorsement in sped if you are already
>> certified in CT. I can't speak for other states but I have researched
>> the program in CT. I was wondering if anyone knew of GRANT money or
>> SCHOLARSHIPS for teachers wishing to get licensed to teach sped, a
>> big shortage area in CT.
>>
>> as for career changers resenting teachers already cert. in the
>> program, too bad! I doubt also that other states wont let in
>> profeessional teachers b/c of this.... CT at least is trying to get
>> qualified teachers to fill its shortage areas, which is why they hav
>> started the cross cert program for teachers. It is hard enough for
>> experienced, credentialed teachers to get positions in the state, so
>> those career changers are going to go to the back of the line,
>> regardless. Unless of course they want to teach in one of the
>> gang-ridden high schools deep in Bridgport or Hartford.
>>
>> still wondering if anyone has any info on getting private money --
>> not loans necessarily, as I already have enough of those.
>>
>> looks like th CT board is pretty sloooowwww in general, as not much
>> activity on the board since my last post.
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/09, Anonymous wrote:
>>> When did you graduate ARC? I am hearing that except for this
>>> year's group, most of the math people actually got jobs in the
>>> end (though often in the inner cities, but that's true about a
>>> lot of alternate route programs....it's all supply vs. demand).
>>
>>
>>> I am not sure you can enter ARC if you've already done a
>>> certification program. Most other states' similar programs (i.e.
>>> NYC Teaching Fellows) will not let you in. I think unlike most
>>> of these programs ARC will, I know there were a lot of private
>>> school teachers and L/T subs in my class, though the people who
>>> were truly "career changing" resented those people thinking they
>>> will keep them from getting a job (one reason most programs do
>>> not allow this).
>>>
>>> Also, I'm not sure ARC has a Special Ed program per se.
 

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