On 11/27/12, Merrill wrote:
> No, you are wrong. You haven't done any research on this and you are
> talking out your backside as usual.
Except troll that I'm an educator who has worked for four Illinois
districts and have contributed to my retirement in three of those four
districts. You are an internet troll looking to start arguments by
coming on a teachers' website bashing teacher pay and retirement as
excessive. I've lived it, and you've heard/read about stuff... but only
enough to prove what you want to believe.
> Do you think it
> is right for someone working at WalMart to pay some teacher's
> pension, when that teacher is making 90k+ a year?
I think people who work at Walmart should organize into a union.
Nationally, they would be one of the largest ever formed. They should
then strike, forming picket lines in front of every Walmart store,
shutting the company down. This vile company would then have to
negotiate with their employees for decent wages and benefits, including
retirement benefits. Then, when you say "someone working at WalMart,"
it wouldn't instantly mean someone hopelessly poor.
Your goal is to make everyone like Walmart employees. Anyone who works
for a living should apparently be poor. Working for mere scraps off the
table of the rich. You clearly have a problem with teachers making
money. You think they should be paid minimal wages and benefits, much
like Walmart employees. Ultimately, I suspect this is because you do
not value education and what they do.
> Democrats whine about evil CEOs and their fat paychecks: at least
> these CEO's are not using backroom, corrupt bargains to steal from me
> directly! I am not forced to pay for Bill Gates' retirement!
Democrats... put out this video, but they're the bad guys in your other
troll adventures, I'm sure. You view teachers' wages and benefits as
stealing. You can't be reasoned with. Any anti-teacher troll who comes
to a teacher website to bash teachers can't be reasoned with. Because
teachers bargain collectively, using something similar to economies of
scale used by Walmart to negotiate with suppliers, you view them as
corrupt. In fact, it is simply a case of individuals realizing that
they can get a better deal when they stick together and bargain
together, instead of playing individuals against one-another to exploit
them, as you suggest.
>As I said before, Illinois law
> stipulates that a teacher must contribute to his or her own
> retirement, and provides for an employer portion.
Fine, every district that has negotiated trs pickup can simply give
teachers a 9.4% raise and then deduct it from their checks. It works
out the same. It is negotiated compensation. Of course, you don't
believe that teachers should be paid, so there is no reasoning with you.
> People working at Starbucks shouldn't be paying for teacher's retirement.
They aren't. You still don't realize that you pay taxes. That ceases to
be your money. The state (or other level of government) now controls
that money. It is theirs. I know you don't like it, but oh well. Just
as when your employer pays you, that money is no longer the employer's.
It is yours. As an employer, the state and school districts in
question must do nasty things like pay their employees. They even have
to pay them above subsistence wages to get them to show up for work. I
know you don't like it. You think these people should work for free, in
chains, but it is not the case. Sorry troll.
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