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    Re: This is My Illinois
    therealsped

    On 11/29/12, Merrill wrote:

    > You say you have paid into your pension in three out of four districts?
    > What about the fourth? Is Mandy down at Walmart picking up your pension
    > now? Must be nice getting free retirement.

    Mandy at Walmart isn't picking up my retirement. I don't work for Mandy. I
    work for a school district which is doing so. You don't seem to get the
    difference. That's OK, most teacher have experience with kids who just refuse
    to get it. BTW, I'm an administrator and not a member of a union. This is
    something that I personally negotiated in my employment contract. Do you have
    a problem with this? I'm really good at what I do...

    > I'm sure you cry all the way to WalMart in your Lexus.

    I don't shop at Walmart ever and I don't drive a Lexus.

    I like how the VP of
    > the teacher's union shows up at hard-core Marxist rallies, along with
    > hundreds of teachers, in order to denounce the rich, threaten the
    > government, and to call for revolution
    >
    > How can we expect these people to even be remotely objective or fair in the
    > classroom? Radicals don't make good teachers.

    Right Comrade, Marxism whatever. Teachers are entitled to their political
    opinion. I know quite extreme right-wing teachers as well. I also know very
    religious teachers and believing in a guy who lives on a cloud and judges
    everyone is a whole lot scarier to me than someone who believes in taxing the
    rich to give to the poor... like Jesus believed come to think of it. I'm
    actually management, by the way. But I believe teachers deserve good pay and
    the best way to achieve that through being members of a union.

    > No, it is not a "negotiated compensation" in the sense that the taxpayers
    > had any input, or even KNOWLEDGE OF what was going on. It was a backroom
    > deal that was partially responsible for bankrupting the pension system.

    Tax payers have input when they elect school board members. The school board
    then hires administrators who negotiate contracts. The school board then
    approves the contract. The United States is not a direct democracy at any
    level of government and can't realistically be. That would mean that the
    public would have to vote on every single act of government. Not possible and
    not the American system. You elect people to run various levels of
    government. They do so. If you don't like it, vote a different way or run
    yourself. However, most school board positions are unpaid, and you probably
    won't like running the school district yourself for free, so you'll hire
    people to do it for you... and you'll have to pay them.

    Pension pick up hasn't bankrupted the pension system. TRS is not the only
    pension system in trouble, and there isn't pension pick up in every public
    system. Pension pick up was actually paid into the system, whether it was
    from the teachers directly or from the school district. The systems are
    bankrupt because the state didn't pay the money they were obligated to pay
    over many years. THIS and only this is why the systems are struggling. Had
    the state done what it was legally required to do, then we would be in a much
    better spot. Now, the state has screwed teachers and wants to screw them
    further. However, you seem to think teachers are communists who don't deserve
    any retirement. Your constant invocation of Walmart proves you devalue
    teachers and their work.

    > Maybe you should start contributing to your own damn retirement and stop
    > insisting that people working at the local WalMart pay for it. Parasite.

    Parasite? I'm quite certain I've paid more property taxes in the last year
    than you have in the last ten. I own a large number of rental properties. I
    could retire tomorrow and I'm not yet 40, and live comfortably on that income.
    Whatever TRS benefits remain when I actually do retire will be a supplement
    to a much larger retirement package I've put together. You just hate teachers
    and what they do. You likely hate cops, firefighters and anyone else who
    works for government, but its less popular to bash them.

    We don't work for you. We work for school districts. You get one vote,
    that's it. So vote in the next election for state reps and school board
    members. We aren't "stealing" from you. In fact, if you want to take
    personal responsibility, you have defrauded educators. The precious tax
    payers, through your state representatives, have not funded the public
    retirement systems for decades. The tax payers' elected representatives made
    agreements, and now you dare to shirk your agreements? Who is the parasite?