Re: TESOL endorsement

On 10/31/08, bouldergin1 wrote:
> I took three classes in Kansas five years ago and want
> to get endorsed...I am
> now in missouri and have looked around online with no
> luck unless I start all over...? Any thoughts?
>
>
> On 10/31/08, bouldergin1 wrote:
>> YOU GO GIRL!
>>
>> On 7/30/08, Delilah wrote:
>>> I would have to disagree with you. I teach ELL
>>> students all day. The majority of my students are
>>> predominately Hispanic (93%). Many, if not the
>>> majority, of my students are first generation
>>> students to this country. I am very qualified to be
>>> TESOL endorsed as I use the sheltering strategies
>>> on a daily basis. I am sure this is true for those
>>> teachers who take AND PASS the TESOL endorsement
>>> assessment. I am truly sorry if you may feel
>>> cheated as you had to take classes to be endorsed,
>>> but if you look at the test questions...you will
>>> see that only someone knowledgeable about the
>>> content would be able to distinguish between what
>>> is appropriate in each scenario in order to answer
>>> correctly. Additionally, the school I work at has
>>> many great strides because of the great teachers
>>> and administration. In fact, we won a monetary
>>> award this year($62,000) because of this
>>> improvement. We are also going to be a model school
>>> for many of the CCI tools that state requires. So,
>>> I feel, it is just a case of sour grapes to put
>>> down the standards, which, in turn, insults the
>>> teachers here in New Mexico. Yes, New Mexico is
>>> unique due to the diversity of our state and the
>>> many challenges, but to blame the standards is a
>>> way to avoid the real issues. I honestly would
>>> think a veteran teacher would know that. I am
>>> dealing with students who are poor, whose parents
>>> do not speak English, parents with two or more
>>> jobs, a school in a high crime area and with these
>>> "Standards" we are making GREAT
>>> successes. I am proud to be a teacher in New
>>> Mexico. This is where my heart is and my students
>>> know this. Honestly, with that response, it is
>>> probably a good thing you no longer work here in
>>> New Mexico. Bottom line, I don't think you are any
>>> more qualified to be TESOL endorsed than those
>>> teachers who simply take the TESOL assessment and
>>> pass. Teachers, like myself, and most teachers in
>>> New Mexico who live and practice strategies for our
>>> ELL students are VERY qualified and should be
>>> recognized. A test is a great way to demonstrate
>>> our qualifications. Some teachers may need classes
>>> and that is fine as well. There should be options
>>> for teachers who are already qualified in a
>>> particular content area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/29/08, rw wrote:
>>>> Wow, this makes me worry the standards are
>>>> totally going downhill! Oh well, I don't live in
>>>> NM anymore anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/27/08, Delilah wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks rw. I actually found out that taking
>>>>>> the test is an option for someone who doesn't
>>>>>> have all the the credit hours. A fellow
>>>>>> teacher of mine has just taken it and passed.
>>>>>> She is now TESOL endorsed. An instructional
>>>>>> coach that I know has also told me how a
>>>>>> couple of teachers have done the same at her
>>>>>> school. Lastly, I looked it up on the
>>>>>> teachnm.org site. They have allowed teachers
>>>>>> to attain this endorsement with classes, of
>>>>>> course, and also by passing the Teacher
>>>>>> Content test. It is a fairly new change in
>>>>>> the requirements. With that being an option,
>>>>>> I will be taking my test in November.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reply. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/26/08, rw wrote:
>>>>>>> I think you need certain coursework. I'm
>>>>>>> pretty sure it is more complicated than
>>>>>>> just taking a test. When I did it about 5
>>>>>>> years ago I needed at least 15 credits
>>>>>>> including linguistics, spanish and TESOL
>>>>>>> courses
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you can add any endorsement as the 2nd
>>>>> or 3rd etc endorsement by test only or
>>>>> coursework.