If you have nothing to be fear, why should you be worried about
"tipping off the other side"? If your position is so clearly right, what
does it matter the opposition they could could mount?
State testing isnt going to fall, never. One, there is way too much
money in high stakes testing to clear that off the table. Two, as
much as the parents and public dont like state testing they dislike a
lack of accountability even more.
Why scare them, im not trying too, but unlike you thats a fact. i
counsel and advice principals and admins how to construct or "set
up" a teacher for non renewal. We focus on soft skills like
communication, collaboration, that are subjective and very difficult
to quantify, so that when they are doing 360 observations and PDAS
they can focus on those dimensions, produce lower scores and
evaluations, and leave the teacher without a substantial or provable
defense. The idea is to leave the grievance panel with the position
of "he said, she said", and in those situations the admin always
wins, and the teacher simply isnt worth the trouble.
Thats false, I dont know a single administrator thats "afraid or
scared" of a teacher. They're the boss, they get to set and interpret
policy and one way or the other they get to decide if you keep your
job and how miserable they can make that job. Teachers think they
can do little things to piss of an admin, and they surely can piss an
admin off, but thats mages them angry, not afraid.
Im on the smart side that supports reality. I dont support causes,
Causes pay zero.
Teachers working around the clock, you havent done very much, the
biggest thing youve done in over 5 years is get the CSCOPE
exemplars tossed, which was never a core business and didnt effect
revenue. Meanwhile testing standards and rankings became
tougher, and effectively increased the performance polarization
among school districts. More of them now have no hope of
achieving the portion of commended scores needed for Exemplary.
Admins dont have to worry about being replaced, they are the ones
who decide what implementations will be made, and they arent
going to select themselves out of a job. Its not "pretend power"
when you have the power to recommend a person for non-renewal,
thats not a fabrication, thats real.
On 6/08/14, question for PsyGuy wrote:
> The purpose of an underground movement is to put a strategy
> place that works to change a system without tipping off the
> other side, thus giving the other side the advantage of time to
> mount opposition. State testing will fall next. Question back
> to PsyGuy: Why scare teachers that they will be nonrenewed for
> not being a team player if, as you say, they are going to be
> replaced anyway with uncertified facilitators? Why don't you
> tell them the truth--that the admins are too busy running scared
> to start attacking teachers who speak out. If you were on the
> side of teachers you would tell them to fight smart and fight
> now. We have teachers working around the clock to inform
> parents of the truth, leading parents to the growing Texas Opt
> out movement and educating other teachers in how to stand up.
> The ones who should worry that they are going to be replaced
> with "mentors" and "facilitators" are the sorry admins that are
> selling us all out for their own $ and pretend power. We aren't
> going to have their backs, and I am happy to report that many
> are already taking fire in their districts. We have to save
> ourselves and the public schools by turning up the heat. Psy
> Guy delights in watching the destruction of the public schools
> instead of fighting for students and the teachers caught in this
> 6/07/14, PsyGuy wrote:
>> We already have privatized schools, they are called private
>> Thats not a fact, CSCOPE didnt go anywhere its still alive and
>> well, and charging the same amount without having to do the
>> The plan will move to hire uncertified teachers, though they
>> be called facilitators, presenters, or something nice and warm
>> and fuzzy like "mentors". Thats the idea, if you dont need to
>> design and create curriculum, and assessment is run by the
>> State, all you need is someone to read a script, and a couple
>> actual teachers (like department chairs) to manage those
>> mentors, and answer questions, as well as advise.
>> If theres nothing to be afraid of, then why are you an
>> "underground" movement? If theres nothing to fear, why not
>> conduct your activities transparently and in the light? Its
>> because we both know its not true. Teachers get non-renewed
>> all the time for not "being a team player", "Failure to
>> collaborate", or just all round "Best Interest of the
>> On 6/07/14, ANON is right wrote:
>>> Anon posted one of the most intelligent posts we have had
>>> in a long time. The media is undermining teachers on
>>> purpose. It is all about privatizing public schools, which
>>> will cost us our jobs as we know of them. The move to
>>> create "choice" will hire uncertified teachers and destroy
>>> our profession, including PsyGuy, who is on the other side
>>> most of the time. Thank you Anon. for trying to educate
>>> teachers to wake up. PsyGuy is utterly wrong that we can't
>>> make a difference. That is what he said about CScope. As
>>> point of fact, those of us who fought got CScope thrown
>>> out. Yes, PsyGuy, I know that schools pay for it and some
>>> teachers use it. Who cares? The fact of it is that the
>>> "powers that be" now have a look of disgust on their face
>>> when CScope is mentioned. The point of it is that nothing
>>> is lost until people give up. Please, teachers, join the
>>> underground movement to get state testing out and Common
>>> Core/CScope out. Join in and educate parents that Pearson
>>> is a big part of the problem. The original poster is
>>> right. Why should our students in the US have crappy
>>> books, full of errors, and why should our money be thrown
>>> away on this junk. Rise up, teachers. No one will fire
>>> you. There are too many of us speaking up now. Parents are
>>> way more informed and they back the real teachers who are
>>> speaking up.
>>> On 6/04/14, PsyGuy wrote:
>>>> I refer in my posts to my observations and experiences. I
>>>> you permission or approval to care or be interested in
>>>> something. That is a strawman argument, I can be
>>>> concerned about whatever I wish and it has zero influence
>>>> on my capacity or performance as
>>>> educator. Parents are very concerned about the abilities
>>>> of their children when graduating.
>>>> No, there is no vast conspiracy to undermine teachers,
>>>> and its
>>>> the evil agenda of the popular media. The media is
>>>> concerned with selling their channel, and content, and
>>>> bad news and scandal just sell better. The vast district
>>>> for educators is not a result of
>>>> medias influence but originates with parents, they are
>>>> the source for the fall of our profession.
>>>> Yes, there is a movement to privatise education, so what,
>>>> privatization is a reality in many public services and
>>>> On 6/04/14, anon wrote:
>>>>> You must be talking about yourself when it comes to the
>>>>> worksheets, for if you are any good as a teacher or
>>>>> whatever you are, you don't concern yourself with what
>>>>> others are doing.
>>>>> Regardless, your post is a load of garbage or else you
>>>>> have unsuccessfully tried to be ironical. It doesn't
>>>>> matter what teachers do or don't do because the 24/7
>>>>> propaganda against teachers and the teaching profession
>>>>> is just one part of the movement to privatize all public
>>>>> institutions for private gain. It has nothing to do with
>>>>> "kids not graduating" and all of that other b.s. you are
>>>>> If you are that stupid you don't know this, you
>>>>> shouldn't be posting here.
>>>>> I strongly suspect, though, you are employing a tactic
>>>>> of a troll by yanking people's chains.
>>>>> On 6/03/14, PsyGuy wrote:
>>>>>> Like what teachers, who teach from their desks and hand
>>>>>> out worksheets, and dont bother even correcting them?
>>>>>> It doesnt really matter weve had this discussion on
>>>>>> this forum
>>>>>> hundred times, the public doesnt trust us anymore. Too
>>>>>> many people graduating who couldnt read, too many
>>>>>> teachers not keeping their hands off the student body.
>>>>>> Too many teachers sitting at their desk while their
>>>>>> students do independent
>>>>>> Teachers are never going to get back the time where
>>>>>> they could close their door and rule their little
>>>>>> fiefdom of a classroom,
>>>>>> as long as we have accountability and state tests that
>>>>>> spotlight on who is a "good" teacher and who is a "bad"
>>>>>> On 6/02/14, disgusted wrote:
>>>>>>> These materials are FULL of errors and waste of
>>>>>> money. Put the
>>>>>>> real teaching back in the classrooms.
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