Re: 27,000 a year?
    Posted by: Payscale differ on 5/16/15
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    Payscales vary for subs and long-term subs in different districts.
    But teachers who ARE certified have to be paid the same level -,
    no matter what district / position you're in per Texas law. Schools
    with difficulties in filling hard to fill positions most likely will hire
    uncertified and not-yet certified teachers as short and long-term
    (year-long) with a promise of large sum payoff at end of contract
    as if they're certified teachers. This is a way of keeping contracts
    'money attractive' to applicants instead of searching and paying
    already certfified teachers $40K annually at year zero.

    On 5/14/15, anon wrote:
    >
    > Rules about supply and demand do NOT apply in public
    employment
    > because they are non-profits.
    >
    > It would be highly unfair to pay somebody more money
    because
    > they are math or science teachers than kindergarten, which is a
    > LOT harder work and which helps lay the groundwork for future
    > academic success.
    >
    > The ONLY fair compensation in the public sector is in the step
    > system.
    >
    > Your post is idiotic on its face.
    >
    > On 5/13/15, 27K No Way! wrote:
    >> There is a shortage of teachers in some fields that are
    >> willing to work for low teacher pay, like Spanish speaking
    >> ELL, STEM, sped... the list is pretty well known and it is
    >> similar around the country. These "shortages" would be
    >> cleared up if they raised the pay for these fields.
    >>
    >> Texas doesn't have collective bargaining for teachers, but it
    >> still makes the same mistake collective bargaining states
    >> make in simply having one salary for all teachers. Yes, some
    >> of it is based upon performance, but there is no recognition
    >> of the fact that there are sub-sets of teachers that have a
    >> very different labor market. There is simply a lack of
    >> intelligence when it comes to understanding supply and
    >> demand. A Spanish-speaking, HS Math teacher has a lot of
    >> other career options than a regular old elementary teacher.
    >> Not to say the elem teacher doesn't work hard, but hard work
    >> is not (typically) what results in higher pay in a free
    >> market...
    >>
    >> If the supply of teachers outstrips demand for their labor,
    >> then you must increase the supply by attracting more people
    >> into the field on a macro-level. That Spanish-speaking Math
    >> teacher, who has other options in, say: IT or engineering,
    >> might then be attracted to the field. The general ed
    >> elementary teacher... probably doesn't have that skill set
    >> and therefore their labor is not as scarce.
    >>
    >> On a micro-level, an individual district should increase it's
    >> pay for the type of teacher that is in short supply to
    >> attract what supply of labor does exist. A district
    >> superintendent at one ISD probably can't affect change that
    >> will bring more Math or Sped teachers into the overall labor
    >> pool, but they can pay more to attract the scarce labor to
    >> their classrooms. The problem is that they don't think about
    >> teachers in sub-sets. They think think they need to pay a
    >> "shortage" area teacher the same as a non-shortage area
    >> teacher, which makes pay increases insufficient to attract
    >> people in the shortage fields. You don't need to pay a gym
    >> teacher more..., there are already a hundred applicants for
    >> every position, but you might need to pay a STEM or sped
    >> teacher more because those classrooms could go unfilled.
    >>
    >> Regardless: I wouldn't teach any subject for 27K per year.
    >>
    >> On 5/01/15, PsyGuy wrote:
    >>> The presentation that there is a shortage of teachers is a
    >>> myth, there are a lot of teachers that will accept any job
    >>> that pays more than substituting (which at $80 a day for
    >>> 150 days is $12,000).
    >>>
    >>> On 4/24/15, 27k BS wrote:
    >>>> 27K is garbage pay and you'll attract garbage teachers at
    >>>> that salary... if that. You could make more in a call
    >>>> center or cubical farm without the BS involved with
    >>>> teaching.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 4/21/15, PsyGuy wrote:
    >>>>> Well yes and no. It is likely that your district/school
    >>>>> is adapting the state minimum salary schedule which is
    >>>>> $27,540 for step 0, however the salary schedule does
    >>>>> increase on average about $500 per year of experience.
    >>>>> You can find the state minimum salary schedule here:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>
    tea.texas.gov/Texas_Educators/Salary_and_Service_Record/M
    >>>>> inimum
    >>>>> _Salary_Schedule/2014-
    2015_Minimum_Salary_Schedule/
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Anything more than that is whats referred to as "local
    >>>>> supplemental" salary, which your district can change or
    >>>>> eliminate entirely.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> As to why, there could be a number of reasons. First, is
    >>>>> to incentivise teachers to retire or resign, without
    >>>>> going through long and expensive grievance procedures.
    >>>>> Second, is if your district is implementing a "pay for
    >>>>> performance" or "bonus" salary program. You get the
    >>> state
    >>>>> minimum and depending on your student pass
    >>> (satisfactory)
    >>>>> and commended (advanced) numbers you get bonus pay,
    >>> which
    >>>>> may or may not exceed your conventional salary. Third,
    >>>>> your district may be experiencing a financial or
    >>>>> budgetary crises, perhaps they are anticipating a loss
    >>> of
    >>>>> federal funding, etc. There could be a number of other
    >>>>> reasons.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 4/18/15, Aeiou wrote:
    >>>>>> Can someone explain this? Does this apply to all
    >>> current
    >>>>>> employed teachers? What are they doing to do? Drop
    my
    >>>>>> pay to 27,000 after I made 40,000 a year? That is BS if
    >>>>>> so.....


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  • Re: PDAS Stuff, 2/14/15, by PsyGuy.
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  • Re: PDAS Stuff, 2/16/15, by Formeradmin.
  • Re: PDAS Stuff, 2/17/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: PDAS Stuff, 2/17/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 4/18/15, by Aeiou.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 4/21/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 4/24/15, by 27k BS.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 4/27/15, by BS bs.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/01/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/13/15, by 27K No Way!.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/14/15, by anon.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/16/15, by Payscale differ.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/16/15, by ash.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/17/15, by 27k.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/18/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/18/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/18/15, by Dave.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/18/15, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/19/15, by anon.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/19/15, by 27k.
  • Re: 27,000 a year?, 5/20/15, by PsyGuy.