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No bottom line is a very common term used in business, by non
profits, by government organizations, even common lay people
have a bottom line. Bottom line refers to the last balance entry in
the general ledger. If you have a checking account you have a
"bottom line" its simply the last available balance in your checking
register.

Funds are never guaranteed, a district could lose a grant it applied
for and was told they would receive, or funding gets cut
prematurely or it expires.

Non=Profit organizations have a bottom line as well, they have to
generate revenue to cover operational and expenditure costs.

Districts can be sued for both compensatory damages but also
specific performance, so they can be sued to do something specific.
Most organizations though dont pay such judgments, they have
insurance that covers that, a school district has the same but the
state also self insures. Needless to say when the state pays, you
really should understand and realize that that money doesnt
disappear without consequences and accountability. A principal who
was sued over sexual harassment would not be allowed to maintain
the position and possible do it again. Its the same consequences
with other inappropriate behavior.

Districts do care about their public image, they have a customer
base and public to answer too as well.

On 7/17/14, anon wrote:
> On 7/17/14, Jo wrote:
>> The arguments on this thread are interesting.
>>
>> 1. A great teacher is irreplaceable. False. This would
>> mean there was only one great teacher. So, if anyone
>> insists on supporting this argument, which poster here is
>> that great teacher and what other ones are sub-par?
>>
>> 2. Schools don't have a bottom line to worry about.
>> False. Schools definitely do have bottom lines. Their
>> bottom lines are probably even more solid than a
>> business. There is only so much money allotted, and part
>> of the job of the administrator is to adhere to the
>> budget. Public schools are not designed to make money.
>> They aren't manufacturers of material goods, but they do
>> have a bottom line.
>
> The term "bottom line" is only used for business, not
> non-profits like school districts. You should know that,
> so don't make a false equivalency where none exists, and
> don't twist my words. That means funds are guaranteed, so
> there is NO bottom line to worry about. That is why they
> are "solid," to use your words. A business HAS to worry
> about the bottom line because if there is no profit, they
> can't stay in business. Principals are allowed to do
> whatever the hell they want, when they want to do it
> because if a district is sued, the district doesn't go
> bankrupt. Businesses in general are better places to work
> because they are more careful in how they treat their
> employees, at least if they are moderate-to-large-size
> businesses, for they are afraid of negative publicity.
> School districts couldn't care less, which is why there
> are so many rotten principals out there. That is why they
> are not closely supervised, which in turn is why so many
> "great" teachers are kicked to the curb every single year.
>
>
>
>
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>> On 7/17/14, anon wrote:
>>> PsyGuy is an ignoramus. Schools aren't businesses.
>>> Because there is no bottom line to worry about, these
>>> principals aren't supervised at all and do pretty much
>>> what they want. The worse a principal is, the better he
>>> or she does. Most of them are utter crap and got where
>>> they are because of connections. Talent has utterly
>>> nothing to do with being moved up the career ladder.
>>>
>>> They can literally do absolutely NOTHING, be completely
>>> incompetent, and they will be backed to the hilt by
>>> school district central offices. Teachers are easily
>>> ruined. They are professionals, not Mickey D workers,
>>> and should have rights. However, they do not.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/16/14, re: psy Guy's comment wrote:
>>>> PsyGuy favors comparing education to business, which is
>>>> a fallacy of argument. Schools aren't a business. It is
>>>> true that we have a boss, called a principal, and
>>>> generally speaking, if your boss tells you to do
>>>> something you do it or you risk insubordination which
>>>> can get you fired--that part holds true. We are more
>>>> like an architect, you don't hire and then try to have
>>>> an incompetent tell him how to design a house. The part
>>>> that does not hold water is that teachers (when
>>>> compared to the other world) are more like
>>>> subcontractors. We are put on a contract to deliver a
>>>> service, and when a principal asks a teacher to do
>>>> something as unethical as changing a grade, the case
>>>> can be made that the teacher's reputation and career
>>>> could be affected by going along with something
>>>> depending on the circumstances. There was, in fact, a
>>>> case where a principal directed a clan of teachers to
>>>> cheat on state testing by changing answers. The
>>>> teachers went along with it, and ended up facing
>>>> criminal charges. We don't work on a factory line, as
>>>> PsyGuy would describe. We are essentially free agents
>>>> that contract with the schools. For me, I maintain high
>>>> ethics at all times. We have to defend our teaching to
>>>> the community at large and in the end my job is on the
>>>> line if my scores aren't strong. Most of the principals
>>>> I have worked with don't know how to lead in the area
>>>> of instructional design and many don't seem to know
>>>> much about classroom management either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/16/14, PsyGuy wrote:
>>>>> No business owners are the only ones unsupervised.
>>>>> Principals are very much supervised by both the board
>>>>> and the sup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure teachers careers can be ruined from evil
>>>>> principals, but thats no more or less true than in any
>>>>> profession or business. You can have an evil VP that
>>>>> ruins your banking career just as easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well if your supervisor tells you to change the grade,
>>>>> Id change the grade. Why anyone would think you could
>>>>> tell your supervisor no, and keep your job baffles me.
>>>>> Theres a reason its called a supervisor subordinate
>>>>> relationship. If im going to lose my job its going to
>>>>> be over money or seex, not one students grade.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/16/14, anon wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you for a great post. It is the truth. PsyGuy
>>>>>> should just shut up on threads having to do with the
>>>>>> abuse of teachers
>>>>> because
>>>>>> it is clear he knows nothing of what he is talking
>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Principals are the worst supervisors in the economy
>>>>>> for the simple reason they aren't supervised. It's
>>>>>> rare these days to find one who is any good at all.
>>>>>> Teachers can and do get their lives destroyed just on
>>>>>> a principal's whim, and anybody who denies this
>>>>>> reality is either a liar or an idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All it takes to get a career ruined is to refuse to
>>>>>> change a grade when a principal orders it because of
>>>>>> a parent's complaint. All it takes is to get sick and
>>>>>> use FMLA to have a career ruined. It's all about
>>>>>> covering for a principal's or other administrator's
>>>>>> worthless ass no matter what the consequences to
>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/16/14, Empathy and Sympathy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PsyGuy? Are you a naturally self-superior, didactic,
>>>>>>> person, or do you have to work at it? Bottom line
>>>>>>> is, are you for real? Or just putting everyone on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What in the hell makes you think you know a single
>>>>>>> thing about what other people are experiencing and
>>>>>>> the motivations behind how certain administrators
>>>>>>> operate and why they do as they do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, you are right in that the job of a principal
>>>>>>> is to manage the school and the teachers. And that
>>>>>>> it is the job of the teacher to adapt to a new style
>>>>>>> of management if required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if you think you can make a silly blanket
>>>>>>> statement that all administrators are propelled by
>>>>>>> nothing more than a desire to better their school
>>>>>>> with nothing personal involved when it comes to
>>>>>>> teachers, then you must live on Planet Altair-4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whether it fits your fanciful vision or not, there
>>>>>>> are some principals out there who are mean, stupid,
>>>>>>> vindictive, tyrannical, and have no conscience at
>>>>>>> all when it comes to destroying teaching careers.
>>>>>>> And if they have it in for you, then no amount of
>>>>>>> attempted adaptation on the part of the teacher is
>>>>>>> going to change it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One bit of proof is that more and more teachers are
>>>>>>> finally relating it, and many others are leaving in
>>>>>>> droves (as another poster said), because their
>>>>>>> physical and mental health, and even sense of
>>>>>>> personal dignity, cannot forever withstand the
>>>>>>> assaults .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When was the last time *you* (if you ever were at
>>>>>>> all) in a classroom? What are *your* credentials to
>>>>>>> presume to lecture REAL teachers who know first hand
>>>>>>> of what they speak of, as to what they need to know?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your post is about the most insensitively, boorish,
>>>>>>> that I have read it a long time. I don't mean with
>>>>>>> me...I am tough enough to handle it, but with Mini.
>>>>>>> Again, when was the last time you ever bent over a
>>>>>>> desk to help a student or contribute to the teaching
>>>>>>> realm. Far as that goes, when was the last time you
>>>>>>> ever bent over for work at all, unless it was to
>>>>>>> kiss some C-Scope executives patootie (yeah, I have
>>>>>>> read you before on this one).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ordinarily, I wouldn't make comments like this to
>>>>>>> anyone. But your post was beyond the pale and shows
>>>>>>> an appalling ignorance of the realities of teaching
>>>>>>> today, and what more and more educators are forced
>>>>>>> to endure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/15/14, PsyGuy wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well they arent dictators, they are your
>>>>>>>> supervisor, and
>>>>>>> their job
>>>>>>>> is to manage you and the school. Thats means that
>>>>>>>> things dont always go your way, and maybe your no
>>>>>>>> longer a good fit for the school and its
>>>>>>>> leadership. Its your job to be flexible
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> adapt to your schools leadership and culture, not
>>>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> around. Being a good fit for 15 years doesnt mean
>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> keep repeating that behavior indefinitely.
>>>>>>>> Professional good professional adapt to change.
>>>>>>>> Including changes in management. I really dont know
>>>>>>>> why people can think not getting along with your
>>>>>>>> boss is going to somehow be okay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/15/14, mini wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much everyone for your support. I
>>>>>>>>> will be substitute teaching. Like some of you are.
>>>>>>>>> Because we need to make a living. I can never get
>>>>>>>>> past this because employers look at your last job,
>>>>>>>>> even if you worked for them before with a great
>>>>>>>>> record. I am leaving TX because I can't afford to
>>>>>>>>> live here anymore. I will have to go and live with
>>>>>>>>> family. That is why I named the good guys and bad
>>>>>>>>> guys in my situation. For Psyguy yes this is a
>>>>>>>>> job, but in the private sector I at least would
>>>>>>>>> have 6 months to prove myself. I didn't get that
>>>>>>>>> in a 4 month contract. So, I can only assume it
>>>>>>>>> was a hack job. Why,I don't know? Like I said
>>>>>>>>> before my direct supervisor and co- workers were
>>>>>>>>> very kind, they showed me the ropes, they answered
>>>>>>>>> my questions. I got along with them. Thank you
>>>>>>>>> everyone. I know I have lost. I just had to say
>>>>>>>>> something to someone. Thank you! Thank you!
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