Re: The Education System is FAILING
    Posted by: AW -- I think you are a little behind the times on 7/02/14
    () Comments

    This philosophy - education mantra -- came out about 20 years
    ago and has been tried in various ways since. Nothing
    mentioned is new.

    On 7/01/14, Hunter wrote:
    > I hope I'm not the only person here that realizes the
    current education system is
    > useless and a TOTAL waste of time for all of our students.
    Often the blame is put
    > on the teachers (which in some cases is absolutely valid),
    but have people ever
    > thought that maybe it's the curriculum?
    >
    > Education is not just a delivery system (like it is now),
    it's supposed to be about
    > teaching kids how to apply the concepts of the subjects to
    real life applications.
    > It's not about trying to remember & repeat. Tell me how
    long your memory can
    > hold onto information you find boring? Exactly, not long at
    all. The chance of a
    > student actually 100% remembering the things taught to
    him/her, is slim to
    > nothing. Instead of trying to teach the technicals to them,
    lets teach the
    > technicals, but with an emphasis on how to apply these
    CONCEPTS & the process
    > to real world problems.
    >
    > Here are the current problems with the education system:
    >
    > 1) There is no creativity & does not allow for individual
    uniqueness
    >
    > 2) We deal with conditioned learning, the students can not
    think for themselves!
    > They're being taught what to think, instead of them finding
    the answers on their
    > own.
    >
    > 3) It's BORING, students HATE going to school! Lets change
    that! You're not
    > going to make it into a place they love to go to, but at
    least lets make it
    > enjoyable!
    >
    > 4) There are no classes that apply to different problems in
    the real world.
    >
    > 5) After freshman year in high school, a lot of the
    information is recycled from
    > previous years!
    >
    > 6) Tests are way too standardized and determine whether the
    student passes or
    > not. They should HELP with learning, not DETERMINE the
    student's fate.
    >
    > 7) Kids are not taught how to fail, and how to take risks.
    They are scared to fail!
    >
    > 8) We try to teach kids while they deal with temptation
    from technology.
    > EMBRACE the technology, allow it in the class rooms, use it
    as a tool for learning!
    > We live in the 21st century, we have to adapt to the social
    changes!
    >
    > 9) We tell students how to live in a democracy, instead of
    having them actually
    > participate in a democracy.
    >
    > ---Solutions (Open to revision & advice)---
    >
    > 1) Allow kids to work from their own point of view. Let
    them learn in their own
    > unique way.
    >
    > 2) Have them do more hands-on learning, labs, and
    exercises. Make them draw
    > their own conclusions & interact with the exercise to find
    the correct answer.
    > Don't just tell them what they need to know, make them
    figure out how to find
    > out what they need to know. For example: In math, don't
    just give them a
    > problem to work out, give them a visual of a real world
    problem (like filling up a
    > glass of water), then ask them how long it takes to fill it
    up. Make them ask
    > questions, intrigue their curiosity, and make them think
    about what they need to
    > figure out in order to solve the problem. They need to
    figure out the dimensions
    > of the glass, how much water is coming out of the faucet
    per second, etc.
    >
    > 3) Let them have classes that pertain to their interests.
    Less standardization, and
    > more personalization! Why do you think they're bored at
    school? Because they're
    > being force fead stuff they don't care about. Let them
    expand on their passion,
    > allow them to study what ever it is their motivated about,
    embrace their curiosity
    > & allow them to feed that curiosity. Curiosity is the #1
    thing that will promote
    > learning, why are we shunning it?! Allow the learning to be
    open to their
    > uniqueness, allow for them to learn in their own way.
    >
    > 4) Make classes that apply to the world they will live in,
    in just a few years. Such
    > as, a class on taxes, opening & maintaining a bank account,
    job interviews,
    > parenting from a psychological standpoint (how different
    tactics impact the
    > development of a child), managing money, nutrition &
    physicality, etc.
    >
    > 5) Allow students to take classes that pertain to them &
    what they want to do. In
    > high school, they will be graduating in a few years, and
    most kids have NO idea
    > what they want to do. Why not allow for students to take a
    path that will help
    > them find what they want to do while still in high school,
    such as them taking
    > courses towards their future career (and will make up most
    of their curriculum),
    > again, feed that curiosity! If they change their mind on
    what they want to do,
    > fine! They're young and still learning, and they're still
    under the roof of their
    > parents, what better time than to change your mind instead
    of when you're off to
    > college? (Yes, there will always be exceptions to this).
    >
    > 6) Tests should help the teachers know what the child is
    having trouble with, not
    > whether or not the student will advance to the next
    grade/class. If they fail a test
    > why is it that it fails them in the class, and makes them
    scared to fail? Instead, if
    > they fail a test, help them with their problems & get them
    to figure out what they
    > did wrong and to get them to think critically about how to
    correct the mistakes.
    > This is where you teach kids how to fail, how to mistakes,
    and then how to be
    > able to look at failures from a learning perspective in
    order to make it better
    > next time, not from a perspective of being scared to fail.
    >
    > 7) The above question pretty much answers this. Allow kids
    to take risks & to
    > fail without them being afraid of it. Look at all
    entrepreneurs & people who have
    > significantly impacted the world, do you think they were
    scared to fail? Sure, but
    > not to the point of where it inhibited them from trying.
    How many of you have
    > maybe wanted to pursue your passion, or a great idea, but
    was scared to try?
    > Probably many. Lets change that! Lets take that trait out
    of our children and
    > teach them how to embrace failing as a learning experience,
    and not teach them
    > to be scared of failing to the point they don't want to try
    and take the risk. Teach
    > kids how to fail, by getting them to fail.
    >
    > 8) Allow a trust between the teacher & the student to use
    their cell phones
    > during class. A trust that the student will use it
    moderately in an adequate
    > manner. When abusing of that trust starts to happen, THAT
    is when disciplinary
    > actions or compromises can take place. They suffer from
    severe temptation from
    > technology, just allow it! In other cases, use it as a
    teaching tool! Have them get
    > on their phones & find a way to incorporate it into the
    lesson. Let them get on
    > their favorite apps or websites, and find a way to
    incorporate it into the lesson.
    > We are in the 21st century, it's time to adapt.
    >
    > 9) Allow the school to be ran in a manner similar to a
    democracy. Allow trust
    > between the students and the governing body. You want to
    teach kids how to be
    > good members of society, and how to support a government of
    democracy? This
    > is how you do it. Make it adequate. Obviously they are
    children and don't fully
    > know how to behave correctly, but make it adequate to where
    they have a say in
    > their education and how things are ran. As they increase in
    age from elementary
    > to high school, increase the power they have. Why do we
    feel we should run
    > things that we think are best, when they are the students
    that are actually the
    > ones learning? They are not robots, we don't just program
    to a
    > schedule/curriculum that we think is best. They are humans
    that need to have a
    > say & make things better for themselves. They are the ones
    in the learning
    > process, they know how to make it work better than we do.
    >
    > --- What The Objectives of a School Should Be---
    >
    > Bring creativity back into schools. There need not be
    punishment for failing &
    > mistakes. Mistakes are simply just kids trying to do things
    form their point of
    > view, who are we to tell them why are wrong in doing that?
    This allows to create
    > leaders & innovators, instead of kids who are taught what
    to think. They will now
    > think for themselves and take advantage of their unique
    abilities and creativity
    > that they are born with. We need to recognize their talents
    and let them expand
    > on those talents.
    >
    > Create students that know how to think divergently, outside
    the box, and how to
    > recognize & solve problems. Education is not about just
    remembering and
    > regurgitating, it is about learning concepts of problem
    solving, and being able to
    > use concepts taught in school to apply in the real world.
    Education is about
    > inspiring one's mind, not just filling their head. The
    objective is to intrigue
    > students, get them curious, and to ask questions.
    >
    > Look at all majorly successful people and look at what they
    have in common.
    > Richard Branson (Virgin Airlines), Elon Musk (SpaceX,
    PayPal, Tesla, & Solar City),
    > Bill Gates (Microsoft), Steve Jobs (Apple), Mark Zuckerburg
    (Facebook), Henry
    > Ford (Ford Motors), etc. What do these people have in
    common? They all have the
    > ability to recognize a problem, and think critically to
    solve that problem. Do you
    > think it matters what they got on their 12 grade calculus
    test? No. They all were
    > not afraid to fail nor to take the risk. They all ventured
    into the darkness to try
    > something new, and to take a chance at creating something
    big. This, along with
    > the general curriculum, is what we need to teach our
    children.


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  • The Education System is FAILING, 7/01/14, by Hunter.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/01/14, by Hunter.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/02/14, by AW -- I think you are a little behind the times.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/03/14, by Huner.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/04/14, by AW.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/04/14, by to Hunter.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/04/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/04/14, by to PsyGuy.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/04/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/04/14, by answer.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/06/14, by muinteoir.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/06/14, by To AW.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/07/14, by PsyGuy.
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  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/08/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/08/14, by PsyGuy's argument is faulty.
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  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/09/14, by don't sell our kids.
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  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/09/14, by PsyGuy.
  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/10/14, by Hunter.
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  • Re: The Education System is FAILING, 7/13/14, by Hunter.