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Tired of feeling hated by all sides

by Moderate

Jan 29, 2017

Ok. I know I will likely be deleted. Going to get it out anyway.

I am so tired of going online (facebook, etc.) and feeling hated by EVERYONE.

I am very moderate in my beliefs. I can see pieces of truth in what is put out there from both sides. And I see bias, exaggeration, fear mongering put out by both sides also.

Just to take a few recent issues, why can't people see a reasonable middle ground?

Gun control: of course the constitution says we may bear arms. So we can't ban guns entirely. But, there is a line of reasonableness. It certainly doesn't mean we can each have our own nuclear bomb! So, can we keep the freedom to bear arms at the same time as having reasonable regulations and safeguards? I think so.

Abortion: yes, we need medical personal trained to do procedures. No woman should have to die to give birth to a child who is going to die anyway. Sometimes babies die in utero and the procedure is the same. But, at the same time - how ...See More

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dunno Regarding abortion.

Why are abortions not performed in hospitals by your attending (OBGYN)?

Gun rights.

Reasonable would be that people with mental conditions cannot have a gun.

Immigration - Isn't one of the major problems that people over stay their visas and "catch and release" those people fade in...See MoreRegarding abortion.

Why are abortions not performed in hospitals by your attending (OBGYN)?

Gun rights.

Reasonable would be that people with mental conditions cannot have a gun.

Immigration - Isn't one of the major problems that people over stay their visas and "catch and release" those people fade into the populace and never show up for their court date.

Sanctuary cities -- I heard in Texas that not only will cities not get their federal funds, but the governor is going to do everything to prevent those few cities from receiving state funds.

Many people are not reasonable, but tend to push the scare tactics and the "sky is falling" scenerios.

On 1/29/17, Moderate wrote: > Ok. I know I will likely be deleted. > Going to get it out anyway. > > I am so tired of going online (facebook, etc.) and feeling > hated by EVERYONE. > > I am very moderate in my beliefs. > I can see pieces of truth in what is put out there from > both sides. And I see bias, exaggeration, fear mongering > put out by both sides also. > > Just to take a few recent issues, why can't people see a > reasonable middle ground? > > Gun control: of course the constitution says we may bear > arms. So we can't ban guns entirely. But, there is a line > of reasonableness. It certainly doesn't mean we can each > have our own nuclear bomb! So, can we keep the freedom to > bear arms at the same time as having reasonable regulations > and safeguards? I think so. > > Abortion: yes, we need medical personal trained to do > procedures. No woman should have to die to give birth to a > child who is going to die anyway. Sometimes babies die in > utero and the procedure is the same. But, at the same time > - how can anyone deny that, if left alone, that this is a > life? And, knowing that babies born at 22-23 regularly now > not only survive but thrive, how can we justify an abortion > rather than a delivery at that point? Isn't it possible to > keep it legal, while have reasonable regulations in place > to protect innocent lives that can't protect themselves? > > Immigration: Every nation has regulations on entry, and we > need to make reasonable laws and follow them. If the law > is wrong, let's change it. But, having "sanctuary cities" > where they are essentially announcing they are going to > willfully break the law? I don't get it. Let's set the > laws in such a way that they are reasonable, and then > follow them. > > To me, this is all a reasonable middle ground. > But, instead I am left feeling like EVERYONE now hates me > because I can't fully agree with either side. > > Is the world as polarized as it feels to me? > Or are there a lot of us in the middle feeling like we > can't even speak at all?

Jan 29, 2017

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A I doubt anyone HATES you for your beliefs. I doubt many people even care what you think. Seriously. Most people care most about their own ideas and don't pay all that much attention to what others think.

Perhaps it'd help you to step back from Facebook a bit?

Jan 29, 2017

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I hear ya I've been unfriended on Facebook and Twitter and frankly I don't give a damn. Let 'em go. I keep my views to myself on Facebook for the most part but when you "like" something or comment on a public post, your friends can see and, instead of talking to you about your views, how to came to them, etc, they just unfriend. A few departed with...See MoreI've been unfriended on Facebook and Twitter and frankly I don't give a damn. Let 'em go. I keep my views to myself on Facebook for the most part but when you "like" something or comment on a public post, your friends can see and, instead of talking to you about your views, how to came to them, etc, they just unfriend. A few departed with snarky words, then left. I don't worry about them.

I'm a bit more vocal on Twitter where I don't have neighbors or family members on my Twitter list. I tend to post videos to what was actually said, quote from our own government's websites, etc. People are going berserk, saying all kinds of things about people whom they once considered friends, I've seen two families blow up at each other on Facebook and vow to never speak again--including two sisters in their 60s!

I see people saying they are "terrified" and are always sobbing. I saw tons of signs at various protests and marches with people holding signs saying they're terrified...but they can stop being terrified and start living any time they choose. I get the impression that many feel they are more morally righteous than anyone else.

The "Mus lim ban" that everyone is freaking out about is not what the media is calling it but no one is paying attention to that. It is sad that so many people don't/can't think for themselves and go along with whatever the media is telling them is the truth. Mr Obama did the same thing for 6 months and where was the outrage? Where was the outrage when Jimmy Carter banned the Ira nians for a time?

Here is what I saw on CBS a few minutes a go--I posted the same thing from the Fox News site because it was the first place I saw it but people called it "fake news" so I found the same thing on CBS.

[link removed]

On 1/29/17, Moderate wrote: > Ok. I know I will likely be deleted. > Going to get it out anyway. > > I am so tired of going online (facebook, etc.) and feeling > hated by EVERYONE. > > I am very moderate in my beliefs. > I can see pieces of truth in what is put out there from > both sides. And I see bias, exaggeration, fear mongering > put out by both sides also. > > Just to take a few recent issues, why can't people see a > reasonable middle ground? > > Gun control: of course the constitution says we may bear > arms. So we can't ban guns entirely. But, there is a line > of reasonableness. It certainly doesn't mean we can each > have our own nuclear bomb! So, can we keep the freedom to > bear arms at the same time as having reasonable regulations > and safeguards? I think so. > > Abortion: yes, we need medical personal trained to do > procedures. No woman should have to die to give birth to a > child who is going to die anyway. Sometimes babies die in > utero and the procedure is the same. But, at the same time > - how can anyone deny that, if left alone, that this is a > life? And, knowing that babies born at 22-23 regularly now > not only survive but thrive, how can we justify an abortion > rather than a delivery at that point? Isn't it possible to > keep it legal, while have reasonable regulations in place > to protect innocent lives that can't protect themselves? > > Immigration: Every nation has regulations on entry, and we > need to make reasonable laws and follow them. If the law > is wrong, let's change it. But, having "sanctuary cities" > where they are essentially announcing they are going to > willfully break the law? I don't get it. Let's set the > laws in such a way that they are reasonable, and then > follow them. > > To me, this is all a reasonable middle ground. > But, instead I am left feeling like EVERYONE now hates me > because I can't fully agree with either side. > > Is the world as polarized as it feels to me? > Or are there a lot of us in the middle feeling like we > can't even speak at all?

Jan 29, 2017

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Debbie Change is always hard and many people are scared of the "change" our country is currently in. Personally, our political climate has been one particular way for so long, certain people are having difficulty accepting this change.

I think it's up to all of us to do the best we can. At this point, I'm not sure that protesting, burni...See MoreChange is always hard and many people are scared of the "change" our country is currently in. Personally, our political climate has been one particular way for so long, certain people are having difficulty accepting this change.

I think it's up to all of us to do the best we can. At this point, I'm not sure that protesting, burning cars, and name calling are going to make things any easier. Does it ever?

On 1/29/17, I hear ya wrote: > I've been unfriended on Facebook and Twitter and frankly I > don't give a damn. Let 'em go. I keep my views to myself on > Facebook for the most part but when you "like" something or > comment on a public post, your friends can see and, instead > of talking to you about your views, how to came to them, > etc, they just unfriend. A few departed with snarky words, > then left. I don't worry about them. > > I'm a bit more vocal on Twitter where I don't have > neighbors or family members on my Twitter list. I tend to > post videos to what was actually said, quote from our own > government's websites, etc. People are going berserk, > saying all kinds of things about people whom they once > considered friends, I've seen two families blow up at each > other on Facebook and vow to never speak again--including > two sisters in their 60s! > > I see people saying they are "terrified" and are always > sobbing. I saw tons of signs at various protests and > marches with people holding signs saying they're > terrified...but they can stop being terrified and start > living any time they choose. I get the impression that many > feel they are more morally righteous than anyone else. > > The "Mus lim ban" that everyone is freaking out about is > not what the media is calling it but no one is paying > attention to that. It is sad that so many people > don't/can't think for themselves and go along with whatever > the media is telling them is the truth. Mr Obama did the > same thing for 6 months and where was the outrage? Where > was the outrage when Jimmy Carter banned the Ira nians for > a time? > > Here is what I saw on CBS a few minutes a go--I posted the > same thing from the Fox News site because it was the first > place I saw it but people called it "fake news" so I found > the same thing on CBS. > > [link removed]?

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long-time lurker On 1/29/17, Debbie wrote: > Change is always hard and many people are scared of the > "change" our country is currently in. Personally, our political > climate has been one particular way for so long, certain people > are having difficulty accepting this change. >

I think we all change and grow and are never the s...See MoreOn 1/29/17, Debbie wrote: > Change is always hard and many people are scared of the > "change" our country is currently in. Personally, our political > climate has been one particular way for so long, certain people > are having difficulty accepting this change. >

I think we all change and grow and are never the same as we were a year ago or 30 years ago. But, this administration is doing its best to further the divide.

> I think it's up to all of us to do the best we can. At this point, > I'm not sure that protesting, burning cars, and name calling are > going to make things any easier. Does it ever?

Protesting is part of the foundation of our country. I'll defend that right by participating. Marches since the inauguration have been amazingly peaceful and organized to minimize disruption. Just like every well planned classroom, there are no guarantees that all will behave.

-ltl

> > On 1/29/17, I hear ya wrote: >> I've been unfriended on Facebook and Twitter and frankly I >> don't give a damn. Let 'em go. I keep my views to myself on >> Facebook for the most part but when you "like" something or >> comment on a public post, your friends can see and, instead >> of talking to you about your views, how to came to them, >> etc, they just unfriend. A few departed with snarky words, >> then left. I don't worry about them. >> >> I'm a bit more vocal on Twitter where I don't have >> neighbors or family members on my Twitter list. I tend to >> post videos to what was actually said, quote from our own >> government's websites, etc. People are going berserk, >> saying all kinds of things about people whom they once >> considered friends, I've seen two families blow up at each >> other on Facebook and vow to never speak again--including >> two sisters in their 60s! >> >> I see people saying they are "terrified" and are always >> sobbing. I saw tons of signs at various protests and >> marches with people holding signs saying they're >> terrified...but they can stop being terrified and start >> living any time they choose. I get the impression that many >> feel they are more morally righteous than anyone else. >> >> The "Mus lim ban" that everyone is freaking out about is >> not what the media is calling it but no one is paying >> attention to that. It is sad that so many people >> don't/can't think for themselves and go along with whatever >> the media is telling them is the truth. Mr Obama did the >> same thing for 6 months and where was the outrage? Where >> was the outrage when Jimmy Carter banned the Ira nians for >> a time? >> >> Here is what I saw on CBS a few minutes a go--I posted the >> same thing from the Fox News site because it was the first >> place I saw it but people called it "fake news" so I found >> the same thing on CBS. >> >> [link removed]?

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