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I notice Trump is no longer...

by Lulu

Apr 2

bragging about his effect on the stock market!

:-(

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T.E.C. - Iowa First, if you think Trump is responsible for the stock run-up, you don't know what is going on.

Second, if you think the stock market means good things are happening in the rest of the economy, you flunk Econ 101. The stock market only reflects future expected corporate profits.

Some examples of things good for the country and b...See More

Apr 3

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Tim Finnegan You also don't see CNN updating it's job tracker. I was looking forward to seeing if Trump is on track to keep his jobs created (or saved?).

Apr 5

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Russia is not the problem!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Apr 2

While America was all enraged over what Russia might or might not have done. This was going on! The enemy is not Russia. The enemy is the rich who own this country!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH1qAmmhKcE

Sinclair's script for stations

CNN and their affiliates including Hilary are the only ones complaining about social media and fake news... remember that. Mirrored From: https://www.youtube...

YouTube | youtube.com

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To Bob

by ron/nj

Mar 23

First, thanks for getting the chatroom straightened out. Are you still working on the meeting room?

thx,Ron

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Bob R/CA Didn't realize the meeting room was bugged - cleared out the spam for you - thanks for heads up :o)

Mar 27

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Another chink in the Trump-Russia armour

by Chalky

Mar 22

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer?via=twitter_page

EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian I...

Robert Mueller’s team has taken over the investigation of Guccifer 2.0, who communicated with (and was defended by) longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone.

The Daily Beast | thedailybeast.com

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Most Americans against arming teachers, Gallup says

by Bob R/CA

Mar 21

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/03/most_americans_against_arming.html

Most Americans against arming teachers, Gallup says

Seventy percent of Gallup respondents said requiring background checks for the sale of all guns would be very effective, while 60 percent said increasing training for first responders would be very effective.

Ever Wonder Why Our Economy is so Screwed Up?

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Mar 21

It's Because the Rich Designed It!

Economist Michael Hudson is the best at explaining "Classical Economics" vs. Neoclassical or Neoliberal Economics." Classical Economics emerged after the French Revolution which ended the Feudal System of lords and serfs. Classical Economics started with Adam Smith and ended with Karl Marx. Among other th...See More

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From God to Godless Economics!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Mar 13

I just finished "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism"(1905) by Max Weber (1864-1920), and it is amazing that the work ethic needed to make capitalism dominate economics started with the Calvinist, or as we know it, the Puritan work ethic. What starts out being done for the "Glory of God" has ended up as today's capitalism which is dev...See MoreI just finished "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism"(1905) by Max Weber (1864-1920), and it is amazing that the work ethic needed to make capitalism dominate economics started with the Calvinist, or as we know it, the Puritan work ethic. What starts out being done for the "Glory of God" has ended up as today's capitalism which is devoid of God, devoid of a sense of right and wrong, and has no sense of guilt over destroying the lives of others - or destroying the planet.

This is how Weber makes the connection:

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Waste of time is thus the first and in principle the deadliest of sins. The span of human life is infinitely short and precious to make sure of one's own election (to heaven). Loss of time through sociability, idle talk, luxury, even more sleep than is necessary for health, six to at most eight hours, is worthy of absolute moral condemnation. It does not yet hold, with Franklin, that time is money, but the proposition is true in a certain spiritual sense. It is infinitely valuable because every hour lost is lost to labour for the glory of God. Thus inactive contemplation is also valueless, or even directly reprehensible if it is at the expense of one's daily work. For it is less pleasing to God than the active performance of His will in a "calling." Besides, Sunday is provided for that, and, according to Baxter, it is always those who are not diligent in their "callings" who have no time for God when the occasion demands it.

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My emphasis on the word "calling", we have all heard people say things like teaching or nursing is "my calling." This is, of course, directly from religious calling, and if God has called you, you have better do the best you can for fear of damnation. The capitalists took full advantage of this!

In today's world, this has morphed into "God has a plan for . . . well, everyone!" Frankly, aside from removing free will, the world offers no evidence of this. For those who disagree I offer the story of Rabbi Harold Kushner. His son was born with Progeria (where you age and die, of old age, at about 13). People in his synagogue would say, "Well, God has a plan for your son!" The Rabbi found this so absurd he wrote the book "Why Bad Things Happen to Good People!" It is a good read.

Yet, I am still amazed at the role of religion in capitalism, and its current absence.

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Tanking?

by Chalky

Feb 24

The 2018 elections will be most interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/12/a-chunk-of-republicans-appears-to-be-becoming-independents/?utm_term=.227ccd011686

T.E.C. - Iowa The Republican Party is bankrupt of ideas that might help the American public or the country, and that fact is now clear to all but the most tribal conservatives. The Democrats, the DNC wing, is no better and maybe worse by the looks of the Clintons. Yet, the democratic party has the Progressive Caucus - their only hope.

However, despite H...See More

Feb 26

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Long after Manafort was gone, Gates was still embedded

by Bob R/CA

Feb 23

The plea, filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., is unusual because it indicates that Gates lied to the FBI as recently as Feb. 1, when he already was negotiating with prosecutors about the raft of criminal charges he was facing.

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Gates, who served as Manafort's deputy, is expected to testify against Manafort if h...See More

Rick Gates, former top campaign aide to Trump, pleads guilty in Russia case

Rick Gates, a former top deputy in the Trump campaign, has

Chalky "...pleaded guilty Friday to conspiracy against the United States".

Boom!

Feb 23

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Analysis - indictment of Russians

by Chalky

Feb 17

Some on this board have posted that Mueller hasn't presented any public evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 election. This is just the beginning.

https://twitter.com/baratunde/status/964608664505024512

"This information warfare campaign was SO. WELL. ORGANIZED. Part of me is like, "Yo, this is great digital marketing." Th...See More

Baratunde on Twitter

“This information warfare campaign was SO. WELL. ORGANIZED. Part of me is like, "Yo, this is great digital marketing." The other part is like, "THIS IS HORRIBLE AND HOW CAN YOU TRUST ANYTHING ANYMORE??!"”

Twitter | twitter.com

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Chalky Classic case of whataboutism.

What about......citizen's united.

What about....gerrymandering

What about.....the oligarchs.

You getting your talking points form RT?

Feb 20

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T.E.C. - Iowa This is not any "whataboutism!" I am pointing out that this country has a large cancer on its election system. and, in the meanwhile, you are all upset about some small zit on your nose.

The topic with Russia is the viability of the US election system - that is, does the election system reflect the desires of the people who are voting. Fro...See More

Feb 21

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