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by Roxanne Dowell

Jul 9, 2016

Hi. Several questions. Brand new. NOT in the Dodd (or is it Dodea?? system yet). Looking to get into it for the 2017 school year and beyond. Have been told different conflicting stories. First off, I am retired military (20 year vet), but I WAS TOLD that many applicants are and not to get too hopeful. But, I was ALSO told that if I opened myself up, when I apply to aceepting "just about any location, WORLDWIDE (I'm early Childhood, PREK-3rd) that my chances would improve greatly. I was told if I took a stateside first, like North Carolina or Ft Benning or Kentucky, that getting overseas, to Japan, for instance would be easier in 2-3 years, after that. Which is fine. I'm married, also to a 30 year retired AF man. Is all this true? I have a Master's and live currently in Oklahoma where I teach at a rural school. I'd just like to hear it from someone and get the real true story. Is it incredibly hard to get into this? Do I have a DECENT shot? I've heard it's somewhat do-able if you'r...See More

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Dr. Ali Fant just looking for the 'straight scoop.' I can handle the truth.

There are 138 DoDEA Certs according to the 2015 EAS application. The more certs one has, the higher one will appear on the sorted EAS Referral list – even if you are not going to be teaching that subject. Principals want teachers with as many certs as possible because it give...See More

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haha Hi and welcome. Most of what you have been told is true(ish). Basically because there are not many black and white answers to some aspects of being hired by DoDDS (DoDDS are the overseas schools, DDESS are the stateside schools, DoDEA covers both). So, what we have are some conclusions that are generally considered to be fairly true/accurate by man...See MoreHi and welcome. Most of what you have been told is true(ish). Basically because there are not many black and white answers to some aspects of being hired by DoDDS (DoDDS are the overseas schools, DDESS are the stateside schools, DoDEA covers both). So, what we have are some conclusions that are generally considered to be fairly true/accurate by many/most people that have experience with the process.

It is generally considered difficult to get into DoDDS. Many people are in the system for years without a nibble. Some people get in right away. Some of this can be dependent of your areas of certification, extras like veteran's preference, willingness to go worldwide etc.

There are mixed opinions about whether DDESS experience helps you with getting into DoDDS. It has seemed to helped with some people, while other current DDESS teachers with veteran preference and/or high needs certs receive little or no interest. If you are looking for a change and are open to a DDESS school it couldn't hurt to consider a move as a hopeful first step.

Early childhood is actually a good cert to have if you meet the DoDDS requirements (which might be different than your state's) because many elementary teachers do not have the classes that DoDDS requires.

So, yes it is difficult to get into DoDDS. Yes you are in a relatively decent starting position. Yes, you should go ahead and invest some hours into completing the EAS online application and see what areas DoDDS will consider you qualified for.

I'm sure some other kind and knowledgeable people will also be along to post their input/opinions.

On 7/09/16, Roxanne Dowell wrote: > Hi. Several questions. Brand new. NOT in the Dodd (or is > it Dodea?? system yet). Looking to get into it for the 2017 > school year and beyond. Have been told different > conflicting stories. First off, I am retired military (20 > year vet), but I WAS TOLD that many applicants are and not > to get too hopeful. But, I was ALSO told that if I opened > myself up, when I apply to aceepting "just about any > location, WORLDWIDE (I'm early Childhood, PREK-3rd) that my > chances would improve greatly. I was told if I took a > stateside first, like North Carolina or Ft Benning or > Kentucky, that getting overseas, to Japan, for instance > would be easier in 2-3 years, after that. Which is fine. > I'm married, also to a 30 year retired AF man. Is all this > true? I have a Master's and live currently in Oklahoma > where I teach at a rural school. I'd just like to hear it > from someone and get the real true story. Is it incredibly > hard to get into this? Do I have a DECENT shot? I've heard > it's somewhat do-able if you're willing to go just about > anywhere...the pickier you are, the more difficult. > Etc.....But, since I haven't even STARTED the process, I'd > rather be well informed now. Do they hire in the spring? > I'm assuming so......just looking for the 'straight scoop.' > I can handle the truth. Warts and all. Thanks! > Oklahoma Prairie Mom

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haha While it is generally accepted that the more certs the better when it comes to trying to break into DoDDS, I do think this is less true/significant when it comes to elementary/early childhood teachers. I don't have the data (then again no one really does when it come to this, even though they would never admit it) but I know many, many current DoDD...See MoreWhile it is generally accepted that the more certs the better when it comes to trying to break into DoDDS, I do think this is less true/significant when it comes to elementary/early childhood teachers. I don't have the data (then again no one really does when it come to this, even though they would never admit it) but I know many, many current DoDDS ES and EC teachers who only have ES and/or EC certs.

It would be great if they also had SPED, PSCD, Reading Specialist, Art, Music etc to give a recruiting principal lost of flexibility and options but the vast majority that I know and have discussed this with (not a statistically number of course) don't seem to have anywhere near even 6 areas of certification. And why would they? They are elementary/early childhood teachers and that is the job that most prospective ES principals are looking to fill. So, being able to teach any ES grade seems to be akin to having multiple certs.

I am sure others may have alternative experience and opinions about it but I would not give up hope if you are an ES or EC teacher and do not have multiple certs in other areas.

On 7/09/16, Dr. Ali Fant wrote: > just looking for the 'straight scoop.' I can handle the truth. > > There are 138 DoDEA Certs according to the 2015 EAS > application. The more certs one has, the higher one will > appear on the sorted EAS Referral list – even if you are not > going to be teaching that subject. Principals want teachers > with as many certs as possible because it gives them backup > teachers. Dave stated it takes 6 certs to be noticed by EAS > and 9 certs is the low end average. > > Another forum poster said there are about 47,000 persons in > the EAS database. > > While you might be hired with only one cert, it is unlikely > unless it is the exact cert a Principal needs. > > While DoDEA is highly competitive, there are other DoD schools > that are not advertised: Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, Yuma > US Army base in Arizona, Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific, White > Sands military base in New Mexico, and others. These schools > are located on US military bases. >

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HelpOthers Someone recently posted in the closed DoDDS teacher Facebook page that now that he is in DDESS, his Veteran's preference is not being considered when moving to DoDDS. It was used to get him into DDESS, but now that he is in, it is no longer helping.

So, if that is indeed true, accepting a DDESS position in hopes of getting a DODDS positio...See MoreSomeone recently posted in the closed DoDDS teacher Facebook page that now that he is in DDESS, his Veteran's preference is not being considered when moving to DoDDS. It was used to get him into DDESS, but now that he is in, it is no longer helping.

So, if that is indeed true, accepting a DDESS position in hopes of getting a DODDS position may actually harm your chances. I suggest you speak with someone in HR to confirm the situation.

Other than being in the system, another advantage to accepting a DDESS position is that your steps for experience within DDESS will count towards the steps in DoDDS above their starting step. So, if you are at or close to the DoDDS highest step acceptable for out of DoDEA experience (10 years), working for DDESS can at least help you move up the steps while waiting. DDESS only accepts up to 5 years experience, but all your years with DDESS count towards DoDDS' steps.

I'm tired and need to go to sleep, so hopefully this makes sense.

On 7/09/16, haha wrote: > While it is generally accepted that the more certs the better > when it comes to trying to break into DoDDS, I do think this > is less true/significant when it comes to elementary/early > childhood teachers. I don't have the data (then again no one > really does when it come to this, even though they would > never admit it) but I know many, many current DoDDS ES and EC > teachers who only have ES and/or EC certs. > > It would be great if they also had SPED, PSCD, Reading > Specialist, Art, Music etc to give a recruiting principal > lost of flexibility and options but the vast majority that I > know and have discussed this with (not a statistically number > of course) don't seem to have anywhere near even 6 areas of > certification. And why would they? They are elementary/early > childhood teachers and that is the job that most prospective > ES principals are looking to fill. So, being able to teach > any ES grade seems to be akin to having multiple certs. > > I am sure others may have alternative experience and opinions > about it but I would not give up hope if you are an ES or EC > teacher and do not have multiple certs in other areas. > > On 7/09/16, Dr. Ali Fant wrote: >> just looking for the 'straight scoop.' I can handle the > truth. >> >> There are 138 DoDEA Certs according to the 2015 EAS >> application. The more certs one has, the higher one will >> appear on the sorted EAS Referral list – even if you are > not >> going to be teaching that subject. Principals want teachers >> with as many certs as possible because it gives them backup >> teachers. Dave stated it takes 6 certs to be noticed by EAS >> and 9 certs is the low end average. >> >> Another forum poster said there are about 47,000 persons in >> the EAS database. >> >> While you might be hired with only one cert, it is unlikely >> unless it is the exact cert a Principal needs. >> >> While DoDEA is highly competitive, there are other DoD > schools >> that are not advertised: Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, > Yuma >> US Army base in Arizona, Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific, > White >> Sands military base in New Mexico, and others. These > schools >> are located on US military bases. >>

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