How is that the best use of educational resources? Pack in the low-achievers into a classroom, but don't dare put the brightest students in a big class!
Why not mainstream GT students too? Give them enrichments just like the BD and LD students get accomodations?
That way the GT teachers can teach bigger classes and reduce class sizes overall for the whole school?
BTW, I know a couple of Gateway teachers who would retire first before teaching the students I teach!
On 11/09/11, Ed U Kaytor wrote: > a regular education teacher gets behavior disabled and > learning disabled kids mainstreamed into his class of 30+ > students, while the GT teacher next door can't have more > than 15 of the best and brightest in his class? > > How is that the best use of educational resources? Pack in > the low-achievers into a classroom, but don't dare put the > brightest students in a big class! > > Why not mainstream GT students too? Give them enrichments > just like the BD and LD students get accomodations? > > That way the GT teachers can teach bigger classes and > reduce class sizes overall for the whole school? > > BTW, I know a couple of Gateway teachers who would retire > first before teaching the students I teach!
All students have needs that must be met, whether they are autistic, regular ed, or a genius. The overall problem is that not enough resources are being devoted to that task, particularly when we have the deputy superintendent for door knobs and his/her two secretaries and legions of "specialists" whose job it is to tell us what to do, yet they, themselves, haven't been in a classroom as a teacher since the glaciers receded. My point (which I guess I am not making real well) is that too many of our education dollars are not being spent in ways that benefit the kids. Not a news flash, I know.
Someone already made the point that NO ONE should have 30 students in their classes, NO one. We need to get our priorities back in order, in education, and start looking where the real needs are instead of building up bureaucracy and helping amibitious administrators build their resumes. That's going to take us partnering with concerned parents to put the proverbial screws to school board members or womever is allowing this to go on. It's also going to require us to show solidarity as teachers, rather than turning on others. Divide and conquer. That's been used in my state for the past few years to intimidate teachers and silence them.
When I first visited this board, eons ago, I came on a bit confrontational too, saying some of the same things you did. My concerns were legitimate. So are yours. I now teach a fair number of gifted students. It's no picnic, I promise. There are a lot of myths out there about the gifted, that they can teach themselves, that they never cause problems.....I can guarantee that those things just aren't factual
That first comment seems unrelated to the rest of your post but I'd be interested to know how the parents at your former school dealt with such a grading philosophy?! - And why was that the policy?
I would like a little guidance! > They all do what they are asked, but few take the learning > further on their own.
Here's what I do. I hand out and send home reading lists. There's a 'hoagies' website for gifted teaching - see if they have reading lists you can cadge. Start a 'reading pot' and ask students every time they finish a book to fill out a form and put it in a box. You add the pages to the reading pot - see how many pages get read during the year. Celebrate when the reading pot hits certain milestones like 10,000 pages of reading. The form should be on the cerebral side - "What was the message of this book to you personally?" Would you recommend this book? How would this book have been better written?"
Tell the class what you're reading - even if it's just a teachers' journal. Listen to a short story on tape every week - listeninglibrary might be a source for that. Maybe every Friday.
Have a 'new word of the week' on the board every Monday. Encourage students to use the new word, slip in into classroom discussion.
All of those are 'deeper'. Give out a list of good websites including math websites that they can access on their own. Study a new country - even if it's just once a month but I'd do it more often. Do the very small countries or do the countries in reverse order of being founded. I think Kosovo is world's newest country and before that East Timor. Tell the story - briefly - of that country. How did it come to be a country just now? Gifted kids love that thought process.
Invite students to learn more on their own and allow them to speak to the class if they want about what they learned. Call it "Extension Learning" and ask "Does anyone have any extension learning they'd like to share?"
Do a "Person of the Week' and choose a person from history whose life provides an example of leadership and discuss whether it was positive leadership - did it improve peoples' lives? Compare them - history is rich with leaders.
Let us know how it goes.
I would like to provide meaningful > extensions to lessons. My principal has already said that I > cannot teach material/concepts from the upper grades (even > though that's what the kids are doing on their own!) and > that I need to go "deeper" not further in teaching them. > I'd appreciate any suggestions you can give me - ideas, > resources, websites, etc. I have some "more abled" books > from the uk, but I'd like to find more. Thanks!
On 11/20/11, Lisa wrote: > I am new at my school and have come from a school where and > A is rare on a report card and a C is doing well. The > school I am now at has lots of high achievers - both > parents and students. About half of my grade 3 class is > very bright - above their grade level. Many of these bright > students' parents have already said they don't want their > children in a separate gifted classroom, but in the regular > class, but with extension. I would like a little guidance! > They all do what they are asked, but few take the learning > further on their own. I would like to provide meaningful > extensions to lessons. My principal has already said that I > cannot teach material/concepts from the upper grades (even > though that's what the kids are doing on their own!) and > that I need to go "deeper" not further in teaching them. > I'd appreciate any suggestions you can give me - ideas, > resources, websites, etc. I have some "more abled" books > from the uk, but I'd like to find more. Thanks!
I came across a teacher looking for guidance for bright children on another teacher's board. I suggested she post her concerns here as I find this is one of the better resourses on the net for gifted .
Please do repond to Lisa's post if you have the time.
I am at a loss. I have an exceptional Kindergartner who needs to be challenged in the classroom. He is VERY technologically-minded (he knows about any cell phone or car), and an exceptional reader. However, giving him "extra worksheets" won't help, as he is really distracted and lacks independence. Any ideas to tap into his strengths and keep him challenged?
Extra worksheets are to be avoided at all costs. Imagine your principal asked for something by Friday and because you turned it in early, gave you more to do rather than praising how great it is that you're a fast worker. Good for you for not going that route. Has the child been tested for giftedness yet? My guess is there isn't a gifted kindergarten class at your school--some schools do have them, but not most. That does make things harder. I strongly suggest Susan Winebrenner's Teaching Gifted kids in the Regular Classroom.
There are lots of things you can do, like have him work on educational computer programs that allow him to go at his own pace to the highest levels he can, extra time in centers he favors, reading texts he finds interesting, creating things from Leggos or K'nex, doing basic science activities and experiments, being the class expert in a subject to share what he knows...
It's hard, but he's lucky to have you concerned about him. Best of luck
Are you looking for things to enrich him through the year or looking for what to do with him during the day?
If it's during the day, either give his parents a list of good books - that might be particularly intriguing to him - or keep a classroom library for him.
Biographies of inventors might be especially appealing to him. He's just K but he might enjoy a series like The BoxCar Children. And during math, you can give him more advanced worksheets. There are several if not dozens of good math websites to print out math curriculum for him.
Can he draw? Can he design his own cars? Here's a website for car design for children. [link removed]
Can he present his designs to the class? You can't give this child one on one attention (do you have an aide?) but you can direct him. Car technology right now is at a crossroads with the hybrids. Solar cars are next. What does he know about that?
Do you know the Hoagies website for gifted children and their parents and teachers? Check it out.
Here's another - [link removed]
But last I'd say to you what I tell the parents of my own especially gifted students -- "I am happy to do everything I can to keep your child happy at school but I can't do that alone. School is a group process and your child is in a group - it's hard for me to be in two places at the same time.
But if you will explore with him these kind of things at home - things that intrigue him like solar cars - I will be happy to help him share his learning adventures with the class as well as happy for him to tell me all about them. Anything he draws or designs - I'm happy to put up in the room - and it may encourage other children to have their own learning journeys and learning adventures that they will want to share.
Let's work together on this to help John have a good year and a happy year in Kindergarten"
I am in desperate need of Gifted Talented websites. I have elementary GT students one time a week for 30 minutes. The time element is what I am working against. Sonja
LeahOn 1/21/12, Chuck B. wrote: > Here's the link about gifted checklists and whether they > actually work. What do you think about identifying students > based on a checklist?
Don't most school systems require the use of an IQ test to identify gifted children along with other criteria such as high grades?
I am so excited. I am going to start my gifted certification which is an area of high need in MO. I can do it all online through Missouri Baptist University beginning this summer.
Now do we presume you asked Darla's permission, maybe offered her some kind of a royalty, before putting her front and center on the Gazette?