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Writing Tips- Write out correlated standard

by Amber Blackwell

Feb 21, 2017

Should I write out the State Standard I am addressing in my written commentary or just list the Numbers (G.6.1.1)? I'm running out of space!

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What Works You don't really need to do either! You can certainly refer to the fact that you address state standards, but you don't need to name them. The only standards the NB actually cares about are the NB STANDARDS. Don't waste space on naming or numbering state standards. They vary so much state by state...the assessors don't/won't/can't look them up etc....See More

Feb 22, 2017

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ak On 2/21/17, Amber Blackwell wrote: > Should I write out the State Standard I am addressing in > my written commentary or just list the Numbers (G.6.1.1)? > I'm running out of space!

Assessors my not be familiar with your state standards so the numbers will be meaningless.

Mar 23, 2017

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C4 - Pre-assessment as Formative

by mdstarks

Feb 21, 2017

Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative is During instruction but if the kids have it to use during the unit then doesn't that change things?

I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were given back to show areas where improvement was needed and those which demonstrated grade level skills. Students then worked with exemplars ...See More

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What Works From the info given in both the posts, it's hard to know just what might be formative and what might not. Yes, a formative assessment is given DURING instruction in order to measure learning to date and for the teacher to use the data to inform instruction/plan next steps.

I don't think there is any reason kids couldn't use the formative a...See MoreFrom the info given in both the posts, it's hard to know just what might be formative and what might not. Yes, a formative assessment is given DURING instruction in order to measure learning to date and for the teacher to use the data to inform instruction/plan next steps.

I don't think there is any reason kids couldn't use the formative assessment to learn what they can do better. However, I'm not so sure about the last statement that the formative and summative can be the same assessment. A pretest (given BEFORE any instruction has taken place and covering ALL the objectives of a unit) and a summative COULD be the same test IF they both address the same objectives for the WHOLE unit.

If one assumes that the info/data from a formative assessment will inform instruction, there is an assumption that instruction will continue. The formative assessment has measured learning to a certain point in a unit of study, but not to the END of it. If instruction continues, then there would be remediation of objectives not achieved on the formative assessment and/or new instruction on the remaining objective(s) of the unit. Therefore summative assessment would measure learning for the WHOLE unit of study, not just part of it.

In a nutshell, the formative measures learning to a certain point WITHIN the unit and summative measures learning at the end for the ENTIRE unit.

Ultimately, it's the teacher who decides what fits the parameters of formative, summative, and the requirements the component and makes their case. I hope I didn't muddy the waters too much more, but this is the way I view the types of assessment within the NB definitions.

On 3/18/17, Jenny wrote: > On 2/21/17, mdstarks wrote: >> Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative >> is During instruction but if the kids have it to use >> during the unit then doesn't that change things? >> >> I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were >> given back to show areas where improvement was >> needed and those which demonstrated grade level >> skills. Students then worked with exemplars and >> listed goals for the unit. >> >> Isn't this a Formative Assessment when it is more >> than just me using the pre-assessment to plan >> from? > > It is the USE of assessment that determines whether it is > summative or formative. If you are using it to inform > instruction, it is considered formative. Sometimes the same > assessment is both summative as well as formative.

Mar 18, 2017

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allie Ok. Just to clarify below because I have a similar situation. In my unit, we have many goals, one of which is my student goal-being able to write with detail. The students are practicing writing with detail about quotes and then self-assessing themselves after every 3 chapters. The summative would be the same as the formative assessment of quotes t...See MoreOk. Just to clarify below because I have a similar situation. In my unit, we have many goals, one of which is my student goal-being able to write with detail. The students are practicing writing with detail about quotes and then self-assessing themselves after every 3 chapters. The summative would be the same as the formative assessment of quotes to summarize, but a random group of quotes from the book to prove to me they can do the skill before writing their finals paragraphs. Essentially, the formative and summative would look the same, and ask the students to do the same, but the quotes would be different.

On 3/18/17, What Works wrote: > From the info given in both the posts, it's hard to know just > what might be formative and what might not. Yes, a > formative assessment is given DURING instruction in order > to measure learning to date and for the teacher to use the > data to inform instruction/plan next steps. > > I don't think there is any reason kids couldn't use the > formative assessment to learn what they can do better. > However, I'm not so sure about the last statement that the > formative and summative can be the same assessment. A > pretest (given BEFORE any instruction has taken place and > covering ALL the objectives of a unit) and a summative > COULD be the same test IF they both address the same > objectives for the WHOLE unit. > > If one assumes that the info/data from a formative > assessment will inform instruction, there is an assumption > that instruction will continue. The formative assessment has > measured learning to a certain point in a unit of study, but > not to the END of it. If instruction continues, then there > would be remediation of objectives not achieved on the > formative assessment and/or new instruction on the > remaining objective(s) of the unit. Therefore summative > assessment would measure learning for the WHOLE unit of > study, not just part of it. > > In a nutshell, the formative measures learning to a certain > point WITHIN the unit and summative measures learning at > the end for the ENTIRE unit. > > Ultimately, it's the teacher who decides what fits the > parameters of formative, summative, and the requirements > the component and makes their case. I hope I didn't muddy > the waters too much more, but this is the way I view the > types of assessment within the NB definitions. > > > > On 3/18/17, Jenny wrote: >> On 2/21/17, mdstarks wrote: >>> Looking for feedback: I understand that Formative >>> is During instruction but if the kids have it to use >>> during the unit then doesn't that change things? >>> >>> I plan to use a Pre-assessment that students were >>> given back to show areas where improvement was >>> needed and those which demonstrated grade level >>> skills. Students then worked with exemplars and >>> listed goals for the unit. >>> >>> Isn't this a Formative Assessment when it is more >>> than just me using the pre-assessment to plan >>> from? >> >> It is the USE of assessment that determines whether it is >> summative or formative. If you are using it to inform >> instruction, it is considered formative. Sometimes the > same >> assessment is both summative as well as formative.

Mar 23, 2017

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Professional Learning Need E/MC Component 4

by Angeline

Feb 25, 2017

Hi everyone!

I'm really having trouble with the Professional Learning Need for Component 4. Could you give me some feedback?

Profssional Learning Need: My need to learn the best strategies for teaching reading to students with disabilities.

How I met that need: I took a class on teaching reading to students with disabil...See More

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SpedTeacher99 Yes, it is. Thank you!

On 2/25/17, What Works wrote: > Is this for the Literacy certificate? Thanks. > > > > On 2/25/17, Angeline wrote: >> Hi everyone! >> >> I'm really having trouble with the Professional Learning >> Need for Component 4. Could you give me some > feedback? >> >> Profs...See More

Feb 26, 2017

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Mrs. D Were you able to get clarification on the professional learning need? I am struggling with component 4. Looking for some feedback. Thank you.

On 2/26/17, Angeline wrote: > Yes, it is. Thank you! > > On 2/25/17, What Works wrote: >> Is this for the Literacy certificate? Thanks. >> >> >> >> On 2/25/17, ...See More

Mar 22, 2017

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Exceptional needs-component 4

by Behavior assessments

Mar 21, 2017

I want to use daily behavior assessments that systematically track current iep goals and stios in the inclusion gened classroom. Focus on small group interactions and conversations...my summative assessment will be demonstration/performance of a specific behavior over the unit period but it will be a compilation of all of the formative data that de...See More

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Exceptional needs-component 4

by Behavior assessments

Mar 21, 2017

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Component 2 Early Childhood/Generalist

by National Board Question

Jan 9, 2017

Hi, I am beginning to collect the work samples for component 2 and would like to know if I need to use the same assignment (writing sample) for both students? For example, if I do a creative writing piece, do I need to do the same prompt for both students? I need 3 work samples for each of 2 students. Do they need to be 3 of the same? Thanks!

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Jennifer On 2/20/17, Jen wrote: > On 1/17/17, Laura wrote: >> On 1/09/17, National Board Question >> wrote: >>> Hi, I am beginning to collect the work >> samples for >>> component 2 and would like to know if I >> need to use the >>> same assignment (writing sample) for >> both students? For >>...See More

Mar 20, 2017

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kb I did component 2 last year. One of my assignments
happened to be the same but the other two were different
for each child. I think you can choose for yourself
whether the assignments are the same or different. On
3/20/17, Jennifer wrote:
> On 2/20/17, Jen wrote:
>> On 1/17/17, Laura wrote:
>>> On 1/09/17, ...See More

Mar 21, 2017

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Early Childhood through Young Adulthood/Library Media

by Bettie

Mar 21, 2017

Do I remove all prompts before submitting the final components?

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Early Childhood through Young Adulthood/Library Media

by Bettie

Mar 21, 2017

Do I remove all prompts before submitting the final components?

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EC GENERALIST COMPONENT 2

by Jennifer

Mar 20, 2017

Do I use the same writing prompts/activities for both children and show that I differentiated the lessons to meet their individual needs? For example, we did a narrative writing piece. I differentiated their activities to fit their needs. Can I include the same prompt for each child and show that it is indeed differentiated.

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