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Martin Hello,

Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. I actually do meet face to face with the students weekly. I also develop lessons to differentiate, supplement and/or build student skill sets so that they can meet the demands of an online regular education curriculum. I have already completed Component One. Do you think proceeding is ...See MoreHello,

Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. I actually do meet face to face with the students weekly. I also develop lessons to differentiate, supplement and/or build student skill sets so that they can meet the demands of an online regular education curriculum. I have already completed Component One. Do you think proceeding is possible given this additional information?

TIA

On 7/16/16, What Works wrote: > Hello, Martin, I'm afraid you won't like my response. > > A couple of questions: > > 1. When you say you work 1-1 "in isolation" with students, > what exactly do you mean? Do you ever see the students in > person, or is ALL contact done on line? > > 2. Do you personally plan any of your instruction or is all > curriculum already pre-programed? > > 3.If you see a skill weakness in a student, what would be > your role in helping a student overcome that weakness and > move forward? > > We have some e-learning teachers in our district that wanted > to do NB. I sat with them for a long time and tried to figure > out how they could do it considering that they NEVER met > face-to-face with any of them AND the curriculum was pre- > programmed. Basically, the kids did a series of online > lessons they couldn't deviate from. The teachers couldn't > design any instruction on their own to overcome weaknesses > etc. > > I talked to an NBCT who moved to e-learning AFTER she > certified. I asked her, "Could you have a done this while > teaching ONLY online classes?" And she replied with a > resounding, "No!". > > When I asked the interested teachers the questions above, > the info they provided didn't seem to meet the requirements > of the components. We also couldn't figure out how in the > world they would get the needed videos for Component 3. They wanted to do NBC so badly, that each of them has > taken on at least 1 face-to-face class this year (they are HS > math and SS teachers) so they can meet those requirements. > > In the ENS certificate, you can work with just 1 student, but I > think it would be exceedingly difficult to do without some in- > person interaction AND the ability to plan and teach lessons > to address that student's needs. > > Is there any way you could arrange your schedule to have > ANY face-to-face students? > > I'm sorry to be discouraging...I surely hope someone else > can see possibilities that I can't. I'd be glad to discuss this > more if you'd like...and maybe an ENS person will chime in. > > I surely wish you the best! > > > > > On 7/14/16, Martin- Exceptional Needs wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm trying to wrap my head around component 2 and I >> have been working in a new position and don't know >> where to start. I am a Special education teacher that >> works with a virtual program in off site locations for >> students that can not attend school in a public school >> building for various reasons. Each of my students works >> at their own pace and can be working on any one of 35 >> courses. I see my role as supporting the student in >> mastering the skill their online curriculum is presenting to >> them at the moment or in building skills that need >> development for overall success. I often work one on one >> in isolation with my students. Most of them are over age >> and under credits and when they attain the credits they >> need they leave the program. Some students only stay >> with me for a few months. This position is so new, no one >> else in my district has a role like this and it's so different >> from the position I had when I started my NBC journey >> that I feel like I'm starting over. I struggling to even >> formulate a question. Any advice or suggestions on >> where to start would be greatly appreciated!

Aug 3, 2016

What Works Martin, based on the info you just provided, I'd say it's possible. You need to show that you plan lessons based on students' needs and provide differentiated instruction, then based on the results, evaluate learning and plan next steps - which is the Architecture of Accomplished Teaching (the helix graphic found in the GENERAL Instructions). It's ...See MoreMartin, based on the info you just provided, I'd say it's possible. You need to show that you plan lessons based on students' needs and provide differentiated instruction, then based on the results, evaluate learning and plan next steps - which is the Architecture of Accomplished Teaching (the helix graphic found in the GENERAL Instructions). It's the NB version of an accomplished lesson/unit plan. If you can show evidence of those steps in your teaching, then you should be able to do Components 2 and 3. Best luck to you...and keep asking questions! :)

On 8/03/16, Martin wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. I actually do > meet face to face with the students weekly. I also develop > lessons to differentiate, supplement and/or build student > skill sets so that they can meet the demands of an online > regular education curriculum. I have already completed > Component One. Do you think proceeding is possible given this > additional information? > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/16/16, What Works wrote: >> Hello, Martin, I'm afraid you won't like my response. >> >> A couple of questions: >> >> 1. When you say you work 1-1 "in isolation" with students, >> what exactly do you mean? Do you ever see the students in >> person, or is ALL contact done on line? >> >> 2. Do you personally plan any of your instruction or is all >> curriculum already pre-programed? >> >> 3.If you see a skill weakness in a student, what would be >> your role in helping a student overcome that weakness and >> move forward? >> >> We have some e-learning teachers in our district that > wanted >> to do NB. I sat with them for a long time and tried to > figure >> out how they could do it considering that they NEVER met >> face-to-face with any of them AND the curriculum was pre- >> programmed. Basically, the kids did a series of online >> lessons they couldn't deviate from. The teachers couldn't >> design any instruction on their own to overcome weaknesses >> etc. >> >> I talked to an NBCT who moved to e-learning AFTER she >> certified. I asked her, "Could you have a done this while >> teaching ONLY online classes?" And she replied with a >> resounding, "No!". >> >> When I asked the interested teachers the questions above, >> the info they provided didn't seem to meet the requirements >> of the components. We also couldn't figure out how in the >> world they would get the needed videos for Component 3. > They wanted to do NBC so badly, that each of them has >> taken on at least 1 face-to-face class this year (they are > HS >> math and SS teachers) so they can meet those requirements. >> >> In the ENS certificate, you can work with just 1 student, > but I >> think it would be exceedingly difficult to do without some > in- >> person interaction AND the ability to plan and teach > lessons >> to address that student's needs. >> >> Is there any way you could arrange your schedule to have >> ANY face-to-face students? >> >> I'm sorry to be discouraging...I surely hope someone else >> can see possibilities that I can't. I'd be glad to discuss > this >> more if you'd like...and maybe an ENS person will chime in. >> >> I surely wish you the best! >> >> >> >> >> On 7/14/16, Martin- Exceptional Needs wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm trying to wrap my head around component 2 and I >>> have been working in a new position and don't know >>> where to start. I am a Special education teacher that >>> works with a virtual program in off site locations for >>> students that can not attend school in a public school >>> building for various reasons. Each of my students works >>> at their own pace and can be working on any one of 35 >>> courses. I see my role as supporting the student in >>> mastering the skill their online curriculum is presenting > to >>> them at the moment or in building skills that need >>> development for overall success. I often work one on one >>> in isolation with my students. Most of them are over age >>> and under credits and when they attain the credits they >>> need they leave the program. Some students only stay >>> with me for a few months. This position is so new, no one >>> else in my district has a role like this and it's so > different >>> from the position I had when I started my NBC journey >>> that I feel like I'm starting over. I struggling to even >>> formulate a question. Any advice or suggestions on >>> where to start would be greatly appreciated!

Aug 3, 2016

Wonder Why...

by Beth Special Needs

Aug 1, 2016

Wonder why I dread renewal so much? I've heard that the renewal process is supposed to be much less strenuous than the initial certification process, but how I dread beginning it. Maybe it's just because I'm older? Any encouragement would be appreciated. Thanks, Beth

What Works Hi Beth. I can assure you, you aren't alone! I think we remember how hard and time-consuming the first go-around was....and what a relief it was to certify and have it over with.

I'd estimate that renewal takes about the amount of time that ONE entry took on your earlier attempt(s). It's most like Entry 4, which was difficult for many. ...See More

Aug 2, 2016

Renewing

by Christina

Jul 31, 2016

When renewing your national boards, is a teachers process the same as a school counselor? The four Components and a reflections dealing with your PGE?

What Works Yes. The renewal process is the same set of instructions for all certificate areas.

On 7/31/16, Christina wrote: > When renewing your national boards, is a teachers process > the same as a school counselor? The four Components and a > reflections dealing with your PGE?

Jul 31, 2016

Renewal

by Beth Special Needs

Jul 6, 2016

Hello, I hope everyone is enjoying their summer. My first opportunity to renew my certification opens in September and I was just wondering if there is anything I can be doing this summer to make things easier. Thank you in advance. Beth

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What Works Hi Beth.

First I want to alert you to a wonderful yahoo renewal group. It's called NBCrenewal. You'll get more help there than anywhere else. Join it and spend some time reading past posts.

However, one of the best things you can do this summer is to read the instructions multiple times and try to get a handle on the PGEs (Profes...See More

Jul 7, 2016

Beth Special Needs Thank you so much!

On 7/07/16, What Works wrote: > Hi Beth. > > First I want to alert you to a wonderful yahoo renewal > group. It's called NBCrenewal. You'll get more help there > than anywhere else. Join it and spend some time reading > past posts. > > However, one of the best things you can do this summer > is...See More

Jul 25, 2016

Hi there, In the 14-15 cycle, I scored a 2.7 on Component One and a 2.0 on Component Two. Disenchanted, I took last year off, but I'm ready to start again. I will do Components Three and Four this year, but my question - do you think I should redo Component Two? $475 is a lot of money that might not need to spent, but I also want this to be done th...See More

Seeking Advice

by Meg

Jul 8, 2016

What Works Hello Meg,

I'm sorry you've had this experience. It's been hard to know what scores are "good enough" because of the way the new components have been released over time. We still don't really know, but answers are getting closer. Once Component 4 is scored THIS CYCLE, the cut score etc. will be calculated and candidates (and CSPs...See MoreHello Meg,

I'm sorry you've had this experience. It's been hard to know what scores are "good enough" because of the way the new components have been released over time. We still don't really know, but answers are getting closer. Once Component 4 is scored THIS CYCLE, the cut score etc. will be calculated and candidates (and CSPs) won't be in the dark anymore.

My response to your question is based on my BEST GUESS of what will likely be the scoring scenario. Based on past experiences, scores near or above 2.75 are likely to be "safe" - meaning they will earn you then points needed to certify.

Component 1 is weighted fairly heavily, so I'm guessing that your 2.7 will be "good enough". It's hard to know, yet about the Component 2 score. IF you do well on Components 3 and 4, you might not need to redo it. However, it just can't be known until you get your scores for 3 and 4. It's an unknown that can't be predicted.

Component 3 is very important. It' weighted the most because with 2 videos, it's almost like a "double" entry. I guess the best advice I can give is to work like crazy this year and hope for the best.

IF you end up needing to do a component a second time, it will be disappointing, but honestly, when you do something a 2nd time, you're a lot smarter about it than you were the first time around. It may not be fun, but it's usually not as hard.

Concentrate this year on giving it your all...then all that's left to do is wait.

Sorry I don't have a definitive answer for you, but this is exactly what I'd advise a candidate of my won.

About the books: The WHAT WORKS! book for Components 1 and 2 is available now. I just sent the manuscript for Components 3 and 4 to the publisher. I don't have a date for that one yet, but I hope it will be available about the same time the final version of Component 4 comes out - November-ish. Thanks for asking!

Best wishes to you!

On 7/08/16, Meg wrote: > Hi there, > In the 14-15 cycle, I scored a 2.7 on Component One and a > 2.0 on Component Two. Disenchanted, I took last year > off, but I'm ready to start again. I will do Components > Three and Four this year, but my question - do you think > I should redo Component Two? $475 is a lot of money that > might not need to spent, but I also want this to be done > this year, and don't want to go into the 17-18 school > year. > > Any advice would be appreciated! > > What works, is your new book out yet? Hope it's going > well!

Jul 9, 2016

Component 4

by Thummel

Jul 6, 2016

Is it true that the new component 4 is not released until November of 2017? If I completed components 1-3 this last year, does that mean I have to wait a whole year to start component 4?

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Erin On 7/06/16, Thummel wrote: > Is it true that the new component 4 is not released until > November of 2017? If I completed components 1-3 this > last year, does that mean I have to wait a whole year to > start component 4?

Unless something has changed it should be out in November of 2016. "Content in the final operational ...See More

Jul 6, 2016

What Works Erin and Brooke have given you correct information. The NB says C4 will be out in early November, 2016, which gives adequate time.

I suggest, however, that you take a serious look at the C4 Field Test. Even though there could be some minor changes, you'll get a feel for the bulk of what's being asked for...and you might get a head start p...See More

Jul 6, 2016

Mentor

by Jamie Freeman

Jul 5, 2016

I am a high school social studies teacher in Northeast TN. I am beginning to work on my NBC in Social Studies- History. I am looking for a mentor to help me get started. For example, how and what to study for the content knowledge exam? What to expect when turning in my portfolio, etc...? Any help on these matters will be much appreciated.

What Works Hello Jamie and welcome to the National Board Certification Journey! You've asked questions that could literally take a book to answer...so read on:

First, I'll direct you to the NB website. At the top of the homepage is a tab called In Your State. If you click there, you'll get some info about TN and you might be able to make a contact. <...See MoreHello Jamie and welcome to the National Board Certification Journey! You've asked questions that could literally take a book to answer...so read on:

First, I'll direct you to the NB website. At the top of the homepage is a tab called In Your State. If you click there, you'll get some info about TN and you might be able to make a contact.

Next, read the Standards that match your certificate area AND the directions for the Component(s) you plan to do this year - MULTIPLE TIMES. You can't read them too often.

For Component 1, read the Component 1 document which has examples of the types of questions and exercises. Studying these will help you prepare, although generally, you don't need to spend much time on Component 1 until AFTER you've submitted the other components in May. Components 2,3 have their own set of directions, and Component 4 directions will be available in November (but you can look at the Field Test now to get a good sense of what Component 4 will be like if you plan to do it this year).

There are also some other documents that you should take a look at: The GENERAL Portfolio Directions, the Scoring Guide, the Guide to National Board Certification etc. This is a complex, resource-rich endeavor. But summer is an excellent time to look at these documents so that when you're actively working, you'll know where to go for info and answers.

Next, go to Amazon or B&N books and look up: National Board Certification. The WHAT WORKS series of books (hinted at in the opening lines...LOL!) has updates for this new process. The update for Components 1 and 2 is available now and the update for Components 3 and 4 will come out in the late fall - probably November or December. These books will give you a great overview of the NB process and help you specifically prepare both for the Component 1 Assessment AND for the portfolio Components as you do them. Disclaimer - I'm the author of that book series.

Sites like this one are helpful. You can go back and read messages posted throughout the year. Even messages not aimed specifically at YOUR SS/History certificate can be helpful, so read many. Another good site is proteacher.net. HS/MS teachers don't post as often as elementary teachers do, but there's still a lot of great information that ALL candidates can use.

Deciding soon which Components to do this year, if you haven't already, will be helpful. In my district, we generally recommend doing 2 components per year...taking 2 years to complete the process. This makes the time management MUCH more reasonable , but you CAN do as many as you want, 1-4. Personally, I don't recommend doing ONLY Component 1 because working on at least 1 of the other components will be helpful in knowing how to respond to/write to the Component 1 exercises.

I hope these suggestions will be helpful. As you formulate more specific questions, be sure to post. Someone will come along to coach you.

On 7/05/16, Jamie Freeman wrote: > I am a high school social studies teacher in Northeast > TN. I am beginning to work on my NBC in Social Studies- > History. I am looking for a mentor to help me get > started. For example, how and what to study for the > content knowledge exam? What to expect when turning in my > portfolio, etc...? Any help on these matters will be much > appreciated.

Jul 6, 2016

Component one scores

by Amber

Jul 5, 2016

Does anyone know the timeframe for the scores on component one? I took it mid June. I know the old version came out in December...will it be around then?

What Works Amber, Component 1 scores are released at the SAME TIME as all the other components: BY December 31. Some years the score release has been the Saturday nearest Thanksgiving, but last year it was Dec. 18. There are many factors that go into determining the score release date, and these differ each year. If you plan on getting your score sometime bet...See More

Jul 6, 2016

Points/Scoring

by B

May 18, 2016

Just curious...does anyone have info. on scoring criteria. For example, if margins are off is it unscorable or point deductions? What if you forgot to add your candidate number in the corner, etc? Our group was just wondering what types of errors make it unscorable?

JP Good question. If margins are off or you didn't double space (for example) the scorers will use a formula to figure out how much of the entry read. The margins wouldn't affect it as much but say you only single spaced, then the assessor would only be able to read about half your entry.

Unscorable would mean entire portions your entry are c...See More

Jun 30, 2016

English as a New Language- where to start

by GennyD

Jun 27, 2016

I am a HS ESOL teacher and I would like to become National Boeard Certified but I don't know where to start. Is there a study guide or something to help you prepare for component 1?

Thanks