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by Alex

Apr 14, 2010

NCLB is not causing the drastic change in turning around the education system that we all wanted. There is sufficient evidence that it is not narrowing the achievement gap between whites and minorities. In fact, standards are being lowered in many states. NCLB lacks any guidance on how to raise achievement levels and is relying upon a decentralized strategy in which states must determine the best approach in educating children and meeting the AYP standards. The accountability system should focus and give more credit for progress rather than just using proficiency. Those schools that are starting further behind are not getting recognized for moving students up several grade levels if they do not meet AYP for that year. For fear of getting labeled as failing, I believe teachers are put under intense pressure so they resort to teaching to the test, cutting out those subjects not tested. This is only resulting in producing children who lack the higher cognitive skills necessary for the 21s...See More

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W The name makes it seem that no one could oppose it. The program has been costly to execute and in the locations that need it the most have not produced the results intended. It is difficult to mandate a program with such all encompasing effects

Apr 20, 2010

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Allison I would be great if all students cared about being accountable. > My mother works in a school system that has this problem. Most of > the student body comes from a part of society that promotes pure > laziness. The teachers, and in affect the entire school system, are > brought down by large numbers that do not seem to care if they >...See More

Apr 21, 2010

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Allison NCLB lowers expectations and standards within communities and > among students themselves. It drags down children that would > excel and doesnt encourage schools with problemed programs to fix > them themselves. Its like welfare for school... a good idea, but > abused and ill thought out. >> These schools that are seen at the very...See More

Apr 21, 2010

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jamil There are certain states in this country where the state of education is so bad that I think that it is the responsibility of the federal government to take over the public schools. Arizona is one of those states. I am down here from the northern part of the country (inner city school) and was appalled with the state of education in this state. I w...See MoreThere are certain states in this country where the state of education is so bad that I think that it is the responsibility of the federal government to take over the public schools. Arizona is one of those states. I am down here from the northern part of the country (inner city school) and was appalled with the state of education in this state. I was in a middle class town outside of Phoenix which had very nice looking schools from the outside. However I quickly found out that the curriculum was two years behind that of most of the country. The administrators are unfailingly ignorant and corrupt. The school board in the town I worked in had a husband and wife (with different names) and the husband/wife team along with one other pal voted in many laws that were contrary to sound educational practices. A large majority of students in the general curriculum could not read above a 4th grade level nor write a complete sentence. It was a general rule of thumb that if a student was bilingual and behind academically then they automatically qualified for special education. I am not the only teacher who comments on the pitiful state of education in this state. Almost every teacher from the north comments on the general state of education here. And surprisingly enough this is a state that just voted in one of the most racially biased laws since the post Civil War days.

On 4/18/10, Alicia wrote: > I agree that public schools need to be accountable for their > failures. Teachers unions have been preventing the necessary > house cleaning needed to improve education. With bad teachers > and schools that treat kids like numbers and not humans, Americas > public schools systems are in serious trouble. The fact that the > schools are more focused on passing kids to get tax money than > actually having kids learn is horrifying. I firmly agree with > the sections of NCLB that involve shutting down failed schools > and allowing kids to pick other schools if theirs is bad. > Though, I am apposed to the continued federal take over of > public education. Education should be the state's responsibility > not the federal government's.

May 16, 2010

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LC I agree with you Alex. I teach at a local college in the Early Childhood field and have elementary age children of my own. I have seen that teachers are under extreme pressure and they do, in fact, teach to the test. Because the teachers are under pressure, they transfer that to the students. They value speed and performance over accuracy and learn...See MoreI agree with you Alex. I teach at a local college in the Early Childhood field and have elementary age children of my own. I have seen that teachers are under extreme pressure and they do, in fact, teach to the test. Because the teachers are under pressure, they transfer that to the students. They value speed and performance over accuracy and learning. I have seen my children cry over not finishing a timed test yet they are 100% accurate on what they have completed. They KNOW math, just maybe not in the same time frame as another child. There is no room for individual learning styles. If you have a child who is not a reading/writing type of learner, they are in trouble. I think there should be accountability, but there needs to be a balance that also includes emotional support and appropriate encouragement. Public display of incentive "math pizza" in the classroom does not encourage or motivate the child who is falling behind. I feel that we need to find developmentally appropriate ways to support all learners. STOP pushing the curriculum down! My 3rd grader is learning algebra that I learned in 8th grade!

On 4/14/10, Alex wrote: > NCLB is not causing the drastic change in turning around the > education system that we all wanted. There is sufficient > evidence that it is not narrowing the achievement gap > between whites and minorities. In fact, standards are being > lowered in many states. NCLB lacks any guidance on how to > raise achievement levels and is relying upon a decentralized > strategy in which states must determine the best approach in > educating children and meeting the AYP standards. The > accountability system should focus and give more credit for > progress rather than just using proficiency. Those schools > that are starting further behind are not getting recognized > for moving students up several grade levels if they do not > meet AYP for that year. For fear of getting labeled as > failing, I believe teachers are put under intense pressure > so they resort to teaching to the test, cutting out those > subjects not tested. This is only resulting in producing > children who lack the higher cognitive skills necessary for > the 21st century world. I think the accountability system > also should be adjusted to measure what is and isn’t working > so we can appropriately give funding to those schools in > greatest need. Rather than punishing those schools in need, > we need to support them and provide them with successful > remedial services. Most importantly, there needs to be more > emphasis put on teachers, parents and the community as a > whole to support the schools. Those students in lower > socioeconomic areas are at a disadvantage because they are > not getting support at home which affects learning at school > due to several factors such as poor attendance, neglect, > tough home situations, etc. We need to create more programs > that will support those around our students in the home and > community to instill the importance of education in the > children.

Jun 12, 2010

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