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Missed art class

by Artme

Feb 28, 2015

This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep 5 children in the classroom when she brought the rest of the students to art because they "hadn't finished their math." I said that we were starting a new lesson today and that would make it difficult, but she said, "Oh, well" as if this were the kid's consequence for fooling around. I have no problem if a student is having behavior problems and is in no shape to come to art (that makes it tough for everybody, and that was the case with another one of her kiddos on the same day) but losing art as a consequence for unfinished work doesn't sit well. I consider art to be part of each child's school curriculum- they only have art once a week for Pete's sake. Not only that, but she has a student teacher who is getting the wrong message about appropriate consequences for not getting work done. I will address this with her on Monday, but I need some words to help me communicate to her that this will not work in the ...See More

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anon On 2/28/15, Artme wrote: > This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep 5 > children in the classroom when she brought the rest of the > students to art because they "hadn't finished their math." I > said that we were starting a new lesson today and that would > make it difficult, but she said, "Oh, well&q...See MoreOn 2/28/15, Artme wrote: > This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep 5 > children in the classroom when she brought the rest of the > students to art because they "hadn't finished their math." I > said that we were starting a new lesson today and that would > make it difficult, but she said, "Oh, well" as if this were > the kid's consequence for fooling around. I have no problem > if a student is having behavior problems and is in no shape > to come to art (that makes it tough for everybody, and that > was the case with another one of her kiddos on the same day) > but losing art as a consequence for unfinished work doesn't > sit well. I consider art to be part of each child's school > curriculum- they only have art once a week for Pete's sake. > Not only that, but she has a student teacher who is getting > the wrong message about appropriate consequences for not > getting work done. I will address this with her on Monday, > but I need some words to help me communicate to her that > this will not work in the future. Anybody?

Withholding art as a negative consequence, like missing recess, gives students the message that art is no more important than recess. It also reflects and maintains the belief among classroom teachers that art is not an important subject. When students, staff, administration, and parents do not think of the arts as important subjects, then the arts will be cut when education funds are low. Is this really what classroom teachers want? In the worst case scenario, classroom teachers will be required to teach art, music, and PE in their own rooms, as they used to do in the past.

When students view specials as play, many of them don't do good work. Why pay a certified art teacher who produces student art work that is no more advanced in quality than a TA or a community volunteer with no art ed training would do? Again, it is a school expense that could be cut, should the day come when a district needs to cut back. You need to be accountable for your teaching to some extent, just as she does, although not nearly to the degree that she does. So, you want to work together somehow.

You might ask if you can help her with the students in some other way.

Feb 28, 2015

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wizzlewolf On 2/28/15, anon wrote: > On 2/28/15, Artme wrote: >> This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep > 5 >> children in the classroom when she brought the rest of > the >> students to art because they "hadn't finished their > math."

This has been happening to me this year too. I think thi...See More

Mar 1, 2015

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Artme On 2/28/15, anon wrote: > On 2/28/15, Artme wrote: >> This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep > 5 >> children in the classroom when she brought the rest of > the >> students to art because they "hadn't finished their > math." I >> said that we were starting a new lesson today and that ...See MoreOn 2/28/15, anon wrote: > On 2/28/15, Artme wrote: >> This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep > 5 >> children in the classroom when she brought the rest of > the >> students to art because they "hadn't finished their > math." I >> said that we were starting a new lesson today and that > would >> make it difficult, but she said, "Oh, well" as if this > were >> the kid's consequence for fooling around. I have no > problem >> if a student is having behavior problems and is in no > shape >> to come to art (that makes it tough for everybody, and > that >> was the case with another one of her kiddos on the same > day) >> but losing art as a consequence for unfinished work > doesn't >> sit well. I consider art to be part of each child's

You're preaching to the choir. I spoke with her this morning and she immediately blamed her student teacher for keeping the kids. I said, "Well I just wanted to be sure you know that art is part of each child's curriculum and missing art should not be a consequence for not finishing work." She said, "Oh, I know! But it was HER consequence, not mine. I know art is important!" (But in truth, she has done the same thing in the past.) I asked her if she'd like me to talk to her student teacher about it, but she declined, saying that this was her last week anyway. SO- a missed opportunity to educate a teacher new to the profession, but at least Mrs. P. got the message... > school >> curriculum- they only have art once a week for Pete's > sake. >> Not only that, but she has a student teacher who is > getting >> the wrong message about appropriate consequences for not >> getting work done. I will address this with her on > Monday, >> but I need some words to help me communicate to her that >> this will not work in the future. Anybody? > > Withholding art as a negative consequence, like missing > recess, gives students the message that art is no more > important than recess. It also reflects and maintains the > belief among classroom teachers that art is not an > important subject. When students, staff, administration, > and parents do not think of the arts as important subjects, > then the arts will be cut when education funds are low. Is > this really what classroom teachers want? In the worst > case scenario, classroom teachers will be required to teach > art, music, and PE in their own rooms, as they used to do > in the past. > > When students view specials as play, many of them don't do > good work. Why pay a certified art teacher who produces > student art work that is no more advanced in quality than a > TA or a community volunteer with no art ed training would > do? Again, it is a school expense that could be cut, should > the day come when a district needs to cut back. You need to > be accountable for your teaching to some extent, just as > she does, although not nearly to the degree that she does. > So, you want to work together somehow. > > You might ask if you can help her with the students in some > other way. >

Mar 2, 2015

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Artme On 3/01/15, wizzlewolf wrote: > On 2/28/15, anon wrote: >> On 2/28/15, Artme wrote: >>> This week I had a first grade teacher who decided to keep >> 5 >>> children in the classroom when she brought the rest of >> the >>> students to art because they "hadn't finished their >> math." >...See More

Mar 2, 2015

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