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Landing a teaching job

by subteacher86

May 9, 2012

Help,

I'm certified to teach English / Language Arts, but I haven't found a position yet. I've been searching for about six months, and I've taken to substitute teaching in the meantime. This is not at all an enjoyable job, and it makes me doubt my classroom management skills; I've gotten quite a few complaints as a sub, but some of the regular teachers admit to not being able to control some of the students sometimes. I'm at a loss. I've read classroom management tips and self-help books. I've also observed teachers with decent classroom management. It has not improved my skills.

I'm still looking, though, does anyone have any advice onn how to land that first teaching job?

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pixie to jeffro Jeffro, From everything that I read, it is health care jobs that are the best bet if you are looking to train for a new career. Some of us on this board have already sunk years of education and effort trying to become teachers. But if you are have not already invested a lot in becoming a teacher, I would read a lot of these posts, research the teac...See More

May 11, 2012

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subteacher86 My advice is do not train to become a teacher. Train for an in demand field, like nursing or engineering; then, if you are still interested in becoming a teacher, go the alternative certification route. It's less of a headache, you don't end up having spent lots of money and no career to show for it, and you don't have to worry about having to stud...See MoreMy advice is do not train to become a teacher. Train for an in demand field, like nursing or engineering; then, if you are still interested in becoming a teacher, go the alternative certification route. It's less of a headache, you don't end up having spent lots of money and no career to show for it, and you don't have to worry about having to study years worth of useless teaching theories that won't help in the regular classroom; you just get good old-fashioned on-the-job training.

I'm jaded over the teaching market at this point; I just found out my city has to place 200 tenured teachers next year, and they are accepting more students into teachers' classes to make up for it.

How on earth can something like teaching be a saturated market? As long as people are born, they will need to be educated. This is not supposed to be happening, and I do not think it is a healthy road for our nation to travel.

On 5/11/12, pixie to jeffro wrote: > Jeffro, From everything that I read, it is health care jobs that are > the best bet if you are looking to train for a new career. Some of > us on this board have already sunk years of education and effort > trying to become teachers. But if you are have not already invested > a lot in becoming a teacher, I would read a lot of these posts, > research the teacher job market, which is poor, talk to a career > counselor at a community college, and think long and hard about it. > > > > > On 5/11/12, Jeffro wrote: >> On 5/10/12, old teacher wrote: >>> On 5/09/12, subteacher86 wrote: >>>> Help, >>>> >>>> I'm certified to teach English / Language Arts, but I >>>> haven't found a position yet. I've been searching for about >>>> six months, and I've taken to substitute teaching in the >>>> meantime. This is not at all an enjoyable job, and it makes >>>> me doubt my classroom management skills; I've gotten quite >>>> a few complaints as a sub, but some of the regular teachers >>>> admit to not being able to control some of the students >>>> sometimes. I'm at a loss. I've read classroom management >>>> tips and self-help books. I've also observed teachers with >>>> decent classroom management. It has not improved my skills. >>>> >>>> I'm still looking, though, does anyone have any advice onn >>>> how to land that first teaching job? >>> >>> >>> Do you have a Plan B? If not, maybe you should get one. >> >> Plan B? Maybe you can push some high school student out of their >> part-time job. These are tough times. >> >> I'm a disabled vet just out of the military thinking of studying >> to become a teacher. Seems like doors are shutting for young >> people everywhere you look.

May 12, 2012

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Math Teach I'd be careful about jumping on the Health Care bandwagon.

I tried to "train for a new career" about fifteen years ago, getting an M.S.degree in laboratory medicine. Problem is: I didn't have the experience that goes with the degree. There night be a nursing shortage out there, but hospitals would rather have experienced nurses. To see for...See MoreI'd be careful about jumping on the Health Care bandwagon.

I tried to "train for a new career" about fifteen years ago, getting an M.S.degree in laboratory medicine. Problem is: I didn't have the experience that goes with the degree. There night be a nursing shortage out there, but hospitals would rather have experienced nurses. To see for yourself, why not send out a fictitious resume claiming to be a graduate of a program (with zero experience) and see what happens?

Today I'm getting my second Masters (in Math). Something I should have done back then.

On 5/12/12, subteacher86 wrote: > My advice is do not train to become a teacher. Train for an in demand > field, like nursing or engineering; then, if you are still interested > in becoming a teacher, go the alternative certification route. It's > less of a headache, you don't end up having spent lots of money and no > career to show for it, and you don't have to worry about having to > study years worth of useless teaching theories that won't help in the > regular classroom; you just get good old-fashioned on-the-job training. > > I'm jaded over the teaching market at this point; I just found out my > city has to place 200 tenured teachers next year, and they are > accepting more students into teachers' classes to make up for it. > > How on earth can something like teaching be a saturated market? As long > as people are born, they will need to be educated. This is not supposed > to be happening, and I do not think it is a healthy road for our nation > to travel. > > > > On 5/11/12, pixie to jeffro wrote: >> Jeffro, From everything that I read, it is health care jobs that are >> the best bet if you are looking to train for a new career. Some of >> us on this board have already sunk years of education and effort >> trying to become teachers. But if you are have not already invested >> a lot in becoming a teacher, I would read a lot of these posts, >> research the teacher job market, which is poor, talk to a career >> counselor at a community college, and think long and hard about it. >> >> >> >> >> On 5/11/12, Jeffro wrote: >>> On 5/10/12, old teacher wrote: >>>> On 5/09/12, subteacher86 wrote: >>>>> Help, >>>>> >>>>> I'm certified to teach English / Language Arts, but I >>>>> haven't found a position yet. I've been searching for about >>>>> six months, and I've taken to substitute teaching in the >>>>> meantime. This is not at all an enjoyable job, and it makes >>>>> me doubt my classroom management skills; I've gotten quite >>>>> a few complaints as a sub, but some of the regular teachers >>>>> admit to not being able to control some of the students >>>>> sometimes. I'm at a loss. I've read classroom management >>>>> tips and self-help books. I've also observed teachers with >>>>> decent classroom management. It has not improved my skills. >>>>> >>>>> I'm still looking, though, does anyone have any advice onn >>>>> how to land that first teaching job? >>>> >>>> >>>> Do you have a Plan B? If not, maybe you should get one. >>> >>> Plan B? Maybe you can push some high school student out of their >>> part-time job. These are tough times. >>> >>> I'm a disabled vet just out of the military thinking of studying >>> to become a teacher. Seems like doors are shutting for young >>> people everywhere you look.

May 14, 2012

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pixie re the health care field I was thinking about health care careers in general. Your experience may be an example of how one needs to carefully research before spending money or incurring debt on more education. But if you google "health care job growth" it does appear to be a leader in adding jobs in the U.S.

On 5/14/12, Math Teach wrote: > I'd be careful about ...See MoreI was thinking about health care careers in general. Your experience may be an example of how one needs to carefully research before spending money or incurring debt on more education. But if you google "health care job growth" it does appear to be a leader in adding jobs in the U.S.

On 5/14/12, Math Teach wrote: > I'd be careful about jumping on the Health Care bandwagon. > > I tried to "train for a new career" about fifteen years ago, getting an > M.S.degree in laboratory medicine. Problem is: I didn't have the > experience that goes with the degree. There night be a nursing shortage > out there, but hospitals would rather have experienced nurses. To see for > yourself, why not send out a fictitious resume claiming to be a graduate > of a program (with zero experience) and see what happens? > > Today I'm getting my second Masters (in Math). Something I should have > done back then. > > > On 5/12/12, subteacher86 wrote: >> My advice is do not train to become a teacher. Train for an in demand >> field, like nursing or engineering; then, if you are still interested >> in becoming a teacher, go the alternative certification route. It's >> less of a headache, you don't end up having spent lots of money and no >> career to show for it, and you don't have to worry about having to >> study years worth of useless teaching theories that won't help in the >> regular classroom; you just get good old-fashioned on-the-job training. >> >> I'm jaded over the teaching market at this point; I just found out my >> city has to place 200 tenured teachers next year, and they are >> accepting more students into teachers' classes to make up for it. >> >> How on earth can something like teaching be a saturated market? As long >> as people are born, they will need to be educated. This is not supposed >> to be happening, and I do not think it is a healthy road for our nation >> to travel. >> >> >> >> On 5/11/12, pixie to jeffro wrote: >>> Jeffro, From everything that I read, it is health care jobs that are >>> the best bet if you are looking to train for a new career. Some of >>> us on this board have already sunk years of education and effort >>> trying to become teachers. But if you are have not already invested >>> a lot in becoming a teacher, I would read a lot of these posts, >>> research the teacher job market, which is poor, talk to a career >>> counselor at a community college, and think long and hard about it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/12, Jeffro wrote: >>>> On 5/10/12, old teacher wrote: >>>>> On 5/09/12, subteacher86 wrote: >>>>>> Help, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm certified to teach English / Language Arts, but I >>>>>> haven't found a position yet. I've been searching for about >>>>>> six months, and I've taken to substitute teaching in the >>>>>> meantime. This is not at all an enjoyable job, and it makes >>>>>> me doubt my classroom management skills; I've gotten quite >>>>>> a few complaints as a sub, but some of the regular teachers >>>>>> admit to not being able to control some of the students >>>>>> sometimes. I'm at a loss. I've read classroom management >>>>>> tips and self-help books. I've also observed teachers with >>>>>> decent classroom management. It has not improved my skills. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm still looking, though, does anyone have any advice onn >>>>>> how to land that first teaching job? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do you have a Plan B? If not, maybe you should get one. >>>> >>>> Plan B? Maybe you can push some high school student out of their >>>> part-time job. These are tough times. >>>> >>>> I'm a disabled vet just out of the military thinking of studying >>>> to become a teacher. Seems like doors are shutting for young >>>> people everywhere you look.

May 14, 2012

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also would caution on health care My wife works in the healthcare industry, and her hospital is gearing for another round of layoffs. Apparently, the health care act (aka. Obamacare) has drastically effected the financial situation of many hospitals. If health care is really an interest for someone, I would at least wait until the Supreme Court decision regarding the health care la...See MoreMy wife works in the healthcare industry, and her hospital is gearing for another round of layoffs. Apparently, the health care act (aka. Obamacare) has drastically effected the financial situation of many hospitals. If health care is really an interest for someone, I would at least wait until the Supreme Court decision regarding the health care law is rendered. Then see if and how that might change things. This is supposed to happen in June.

Teaching was once a profession where getting a job was relatively easy. Now, almost every district is laying off and cutting back costs. An eroding tax base is part of the trouble. I honestly cannot think of many professions not impacted by the economic situation.

On 5/14/12, Math Teach wrote: > I'd be careful about jumping on the Health Care bandwagon. > > I tried to "train for a new career" about fifteen years ago, getting an > M.S.degree in laboratory medicine. Problem is: I didn't have the > experience that goes with the degree. There night be a nursing shortage > out there, but hospitals would rather have experienced nurses. To see for > yourself, why not send out a fictitious resume claiming to be a graduate > of a program (with zero experience) and see what happens? > > Today I'm getting my second Masters (in Math). Something I should have > done back then. > > > On 5/12/12, subteacher86 wrote: >> My advice is do not train to become a teacher. Train for an in demand >> field, like nursing or engineering; then, if you are still interested >> in becoming a teacher, go the alternative certification route. It's >> less of a headache, you don't end up having spent lots of money and no >> career to show for it, and you don't have to worry about having to >> study years worth of useless teaching theories that won't help in the >> regular classroom; you just get good old-fashioned on-the-job training. >> >> I'm jaded over the teaching market at this point; I just found out my >> city has to place 200 tenured teachers next year, and they are >> accepting more students into teachers' classes to make up for it. >> >> How on earth can something like teaching be a saturated market? As long >> as people are born, they will need to be educated. This is not supposed >> to be happening, and I do not think it is a healthy road for our nation >> to travel. >> >> >> >> On 5/11/12, pixie to jeffro wrote: >>> Jeffro, From everything that I read, it is health care jobs that are >>> the best bet if you are looking to train for a new career. Some of >>> us on this board have already sunk years of education and effort >>> trying to become teachers. But if you are have not already invested >>> a lot in becoming a teacher, I would read a lot of these posts, >>> research the teacher job market, which is poor, talk to a career >>> counselor at a community college, and think long and hard about it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/12, Jeffro wrote: >>>> On 5/10/12, old teacher wrote: >>>>> On 5/09/12, subteacher86 wrote: >>>>>> Help, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm certified to teach English / Language Arts, but I >>>>>> haven't found a position yet. I've been searching for about >>>>>> six months, and I've taken to substitute teaching in the >>>>>> meantime. This is not at all an enjoyable job, and it makes >>>>>> me doubt my classroom management skills; I've gotten quite >>>>>> a few complaints as a sub, but some of the regular teachers >>>>>> admit to not being able to control some of the students >>>>>> sometimes. I'm at a loss. I've read classroom management >>>>>> tips and self-help books. I've also observed teachers with >>>>>> decent classroom management. It has not improved my skills. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm still looking, though, does anyone have any advice onn >>>>>> how to land that first teaching job? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do you have a Plan B? If not, maybe you should get one. >>>> >>>> Plan B? Maybe you can push some high school student out of their >>>> part-time job. These are tough times. >>>> >>>> I'm a disabled vet just out of the military thinking of studying >>>> to become a teacher. Seems like doors are shutting for young >>>> people everywhere you look.

May 17, 2012

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