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Can anyone help?

by Julie

Mar 26, 2013

I have been looking for a teaching position for 2 years. Here in New Jersey most school districts use an online application called AppliTrack. I must being doing something wrong and not making the "sort" when the districts go through the online applications, because I have never been called for an interview when using the online application. However, the few districts that still use the mail in resume I usually get called in for an interview.

Does anyone have any advice as to how to get my online applicationt to make the district's sort? I have googled information on this and have added the buzz words and have gotten rid of bold print, etc.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you, Julie

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Math Teach "Graduates of the district schools" makes them a better candidate? Oh please. (and nothing negative directed at you J!)

Being a graduate of a school makes them a past customer. Giving them preferential treatment would be akin to giving a former patient of a hospital a license to practice medicine there. What, a graduate of the Bronx High S...See More

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Claire I have numerous degrees which makes me very marketable as a teacher one would think. However when it comes to hiring a highly qualified teacher they will look at their budget and hire the gal right out of college. Cheaper sarlary is what it breaks down to. I do think that a common school helps too. One of the comments from the hiring principal was ...See More

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pixie RE hiring graduates from district schools: these people may have graduated only a few years ago and can use their former teachers as references, which makes them a known quantity. Also, these school districts get so many applications from qualified people that they can use the "former graduates" standard as a screening device to narrow the applican...See More

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DOC What are you putting on the AppliTracks? Make sure you have all of your certifications scanned on, a solid resume, eloquent cover letter and any other pertinent information. I use AppliTrack to find my people and the first thing I check is Certifications, then resume, then I try to piece together this person's professional career. I ask myself the ...See MoreWhat are you putting on the AppliTracks? Make sure you have all of your certifications scanned on, a solid resume, eloquent cover letter and any other pertinent information. I use AppliTrack to find my people and the first thing I check is Certifications, then resume, then I try to piece together this person's professional career. I ask myself the question, "What can this person do for me?" I don't agree that middle aged woman have no chance. That is just negativity. My suggestions to you are #1- become highly qualified or get certified in 2 of the important areas. LA, Math and Science. You can fill more positions. #2- Make sure you are technologically savvy. This is where many experienced applicants fall short. The fresh out of college applicants are technologically savvy. #3 Be willing to take any job to get your foot in the door. #4 Don't appear to be high- maintanence. If you are special, prove it AFTER you get the job. Good luck!

On 4/02/13, Julie wrote: > Does anyone have any tricks or know what the AppliTrack system > scans for? > > > > > > On 3/30/13, not a good fit wrote: >> I can't move either; my house is "underwater," and my kids' dad >> lives in this area so I want it be be convenient for my young >> adult children to spend time with both parents. >> The job situation is very depressing, as you all know. School >> districts are still trying to cut back on positions for next >> year. The constant stress is getting hard to take. Just trying to >> keep a positive attitude, thinking of taking up meditation to >> learn to transcend the immediate reality and find some > tranquility. >> >> >> On 3/30/13, J wrote: >>> I don't have good references from subbing. Just don't have >>> the relationships. Can you move states? NC, Arizona? I >>> can't move because of my husband's job. >>> >>> On 3/30/13, J wrote: >>>> I think it is hopeless for white women over 40. >>>> Especially overweight women >>>> like me. Skinny blondes are getting the jobs. The >>>> districts pay a reduced group rate for insurance. I >>>> don't think 1 insurance will make a difference. I would >>>> go to nursing school if I didn't have kids coming up >>>> for college in a few years. No financial aid except >>>> loans once a person has a degree or two degrees. I >>>> don't need more debt. Thankfully my husband has a >>>> living wage job. >>>> >>>> On 3/29/13, Julie wrote: >>>>> I waited a long time, and worked very hard to obtain >>>>> my teaching degree. There must be a way around this ( >>>>> you are right these are the people getting the jobs). >>>>> What do you think if I worked into my next interview >>>>> that I do not need health insurance? Will dollar >>>>> signs make them overlook I am a middle age woman? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/29/13, J wrote: >>>>>> Here are who are getting the teaching jobs everywhere: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. men 2. minorities 3. young 22 year old kids >>>>>> fresh out of college 4. relatives/friends of >>>>>> someone in the district 5. graduates of the >>>>>> district schools >>>>>> >>>>>> Middle aged white women don't have a chance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/28/13, "not a good fit" wrote: >>>>>>> I too am a mature teacher and the last two times >>>>>>> thaatI had an interview I was told that I did >>>>>>> well in the interview, but someone else was >>>>>>> chosen that was considered "a better >>>>>>> fit" for the position. When I politely ask >>>>>>> for some feedback that would help me better >>>>>>> convey my strengths, etc. in the interview, they >>>>>>> refuse to answer, saying that it is >>>>>>> "confidential." So frustrating!!!!!How >>>>>>> can you improve theyw ay you present yourself if >>>>>>> they will not tell you what was lacking? Unless >>>>>>> it is something that you cannot change sueh as >>>>>>> age. You are left to conclude that they wanted >>>>>>> someone younger or someone's friend or relative >>>>>>> for the job. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/28/13, Julie wrote: >>>>>>>> The few interviews I have been on were obtained >>>>>>>> when the district requested paper resumes. My >>>>>>>> first few interviews I will admit I was >>>>>>>> extremely nervous and I know my nerves were >>>>>>>> obvious to the administrators. I am more >>>>>>>> confident now, and my nerves are not an issue. >>>>>>>> What seems to be an issue is my age for some >>>>>>>> reason. I say this because someone at some >>>>>>>> point during the interview brings up my age. >>>>>>>> They do it tactfully, for example a question >>>>>>>> may be "Why now"? I turn this to be >>>>>>>> to my benefit, and explain that my goal has >>>>>>>> always been to be a teacher, unfortunately my >>>>>>>> life's journey has had a few bumps in the road. >>>>>>>> Then go into that my maturity and life >>>>>>>> experience is an asset...etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would never decline any interview. I can not >>>>>>>> understand why districts would hire right out >>>>>>>> of college teachers with no life experience >>>>>>>> over a mature teacher. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was recently told that age does play a role, >>>>>>>> due to health insurance. Do not know if this is >>>>>>>> true or not but that is what I have been told. >>>>>>>> I was planning on my next interview to gently >>>>>>>> bring up that I am not in need of health >>>>>>>> insurance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Julie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/27/13, Vet Teacher wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/26/13, Julie wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I have been looking for a teaching position >>>>>>>>>> for 2 years. Here in New Jersey most school >>>>>>>>>> districts use an online application called >>>>>>>>>> AppliTrack. I must being doing something >>>>>>>>>> wrong and not making the "sort" >>>>>>>>>> when the districts go through the online >>>>>>>>>> applications, because I have never been >>>>>>>>>> called for an interview when using the >>>>>>>>>> online application. However, the few >>>>>>>>>> districts that still use the mail in resume >>>>>>>>>> I usually get called in for an interview. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice as to how to >>>>>>>>>> get my online applicationt to make the >>>>>>>>>> district's sort? I have googled information >>>>>>>>>> on this and have added the buzz words and >>>>>>>>>> have gotten rid of bold print, etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any advice would be appreciated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Julie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you're getting some interviews, what's >>>>>>>>> happened at those interviews? I'd suggest a >>>>>>>>> two-pronged approach here - getting your >>>>>>>>> resume to be more widely distributed is one >>>>>>>>> approach but once you land an interview, do >>>>>>>>> you get called back for a second and if not >>>>>>>>> why not? Did you decline a second interview?

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Julie DOC

I have a solid resume and cover letter. I have had it read by administrators and they told me they are solid. The problem with Highly Qualified is you need to have worked somewhere. Yes, I have met the criteria of Highly Qualified but do not yet have work experience to be called Highly Qualified. I even called the state of NJ, and it i...See MoreDOC

I have a solid resume and cover letter. I have had it read by administrators and they told me they are solid. The problem with Highly Qualified is you need to have worked somewhere. Yes, I have met the criteria of Highly Qualified but do not yet have work experience to be called Highly Qualified. I even called the state of NJ, and it is a catch 22.

I do not think every hiring professional is as diligent as you. I do believe many click through the sorting process and do not read the resume and cover letters attached until they get to a few.

What sorting process do you use? How can I make my application get through the sorting of applicants?

On 4/12/13, DOC wrote: > What are you putting on the AppliTracks? Make sure you have all of > your certifications scanned on, a solid resume, eloquent cover letter > and any other pertinent information. I use AppliTrack to find my > people and the first thing I check is Certifications, then resume, > then I try to piece together this person's professional career. I ask > myself the question, "What can this person do for me?" I don't agree > that middle aged woman have no chance. That is just negativity. My > suggestions to you are #1- become highly qualified or get certified in > 2 of the important areas. LA, Math and Science. You can fill more > positions. #2- Make sure you are technologically savvy. This is > where many experienced applicants fall short. The fresh out of > college applicants are technologically savvy. #3 Be willing to take > any job to get your foot in the door. #4 Don't appear to be high- > maintanence. If you are special, prove it AFTER you get the job. > Good luck! > > On 4/02/13, Julie wrote: >> Does anyone have any tricks or know what the AppliTrack system >> scans for? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/30/13, not a good fit wrote: >>> I can't move either; my house is "underwater," and my kids' dad >>> lives in this area so I want it be be convenient for my young >>> adult children to spend time with both parents. >>> The job situation is very depressing, as you all know. School >>> districts are still trying to cut back on positions for next >>> year. The constant stress is getting hard to take. Just trying to >>> keep a positive attitude, thinking of taking up meditation to >>> learn to transcend the immediate reality and find some >> tranquility. >>> >>> >>> On 3/30/13, J wrote: >>>> I don't have good references from subbing. Just don't have >>>> the relationships. Can you move states? NC, Arizona? I >>>> can't move because of my husband's job. >>>> >>>> On 3/30/13, J wrote: >>>>> I think it is hopeless for white women over 40. >>>>> Especially overweight women >>>>> like me. Skinny blondes are getting the jobs. The >>>>> districts pay a reduced group rate for insurance. I >>>>> don't think 1 insurance will make a difference. I would >>>>> go to nursing school if I didn't have kids coming up >>>>> for college in a few years. No financial aid except >>>>> loans once a person has a degree or two degrees. I >>>>> don't need more debt. Thankfully my husband has a >>>>> living wage job. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/29/13, Julie wrote: >>>>>> I waited a long time, and worked very hard to obtain >>>>>> my teaching degree. There must be a way around this ( >>>>>> you are right these are the people getting the jobs). >>>>>> What do you think if I worked into my next interview >>>>>> that I do not need health insurance? Will dollar >>>>>> signs make them overlook I am a middle age woman? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/29/13, J wrote: >>>>>>> Here are who are getting the teaching jobs everywhere: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. men 2. minorities 3. young 22 year old kids >>>>>>> fresh out of college 4. relatives/friends of >>>>>>> someone in the district 5. graduates of the >>>>>>> district schools >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Middle aged white women don't have a chance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/28/13, "not a good fit" wrote: >>>>>>>> I too am a mature teacher and the last two times >>>>>>>> thaatI had an interview I was told that I did >>>>>>>> well in the interview, but someone else was >>>>>>>> chosen that was considered "a better >>>>>>>> fit" for the position. When I politely ask >>>>>>>> for some feedback that would help me better >>>>>>>> convey my strengths, etc. in the interview, they >>>>>>>> refuse to answer, saying that it is >>>>>>>> "confidential." So frustrating!!!!!How >>>>>>>> can you improve theyw ay you present yourself if >>>>>>>> they will not tell you what was lacking? Unless >>>>>>>> it is something that you cannot change sueh as >>>>>>>> age. You are left to conclude that they wanted >>>>>>>> someone younger or someone's friend or relative >>>>>>>> for the job. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/28/13, Julie wrote: >>>>>>>>> The few interviews I have been on were obtained >>>>>>>>> when the district requested paper resumes. My >>>>>>>>> first few interviews I will admit I was >>>>>>>>> extremely nervous and I know my nerves were >>>>>>>>> obvious to the administrators. I am more >>>>>>>>> confident now, and my nerves are not an issue. >>>>>>>>> What seems to be an issue is my age for some >>>>>>>>> reason. I say this because someone at some >>>>>>>>> point during the interview brings up my age. >>>>>>>>> They do it tactfully, for example a question >>>>>>>>> may be "Why now"? I turn this to be >>>>>>>>> to my benefit, and explain that my goal has >>>>>>>>> always been to be a teacher, unfortunately my >>>>>>>>> life's journey has had a few bumps in the road. >>>>>>>>> Then go into that my maturity and life >>>>>>>>> experience is an asset...etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would never decline any interview. I can not >>>>>>>>> understand why districts would hire right out >>>>>>>>> of college teachers with no life experience >>>>>>>>> over a mature teacher. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was recently told that age does play a role, >>>>>>>>> due to health insurance. Do not know if this is >>>>>>>>> true or not but that is what I have been told. >>>>>>>>> I was planning on my next interview to gently >>>>>>>>> bring up that I am not in need of health >>>>>>>>> insurance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Julie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/27/13, Vet Teacher wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/13, Julie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking for a teaching position >>>>>>>>>>> for 2 years. Here in New Jersey most school >>>>>>>>>>> districts use an online application called >>>>>>>>>>> AppliTrack. I must being doing something >>>>>>>>>>> wrong and not making the "sort" >>>>>>>>>>> when the districts go through the online >>>>>>>>>>> applications, because I have never been >>>>>>>>>>> called for an interview when using the >>>>>>>>>>> online application. However, the few >>>>>>>>>>> districts that still use the mail in resume >>>>>>>>>>> I usually get called in for an interview. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice as to how to >>>>>>>>>>> get my online applicationt to make the >>>>>>>>>>> district's sort? I have googled information >>>>>>>>>>> on this and have added the buzz words and >>>>>>>>>>> have gotten rid of bold print, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any advice would be appreciated. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Julie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you're getting some interviews, what's >>>>>>>>>> happened at those interviews? I'd suggest a >>>>>>>>>> two-pronged approach here - getting your >>>>>>>>>> resume to be more widely distributed is one >>>>>>>>>> approach but once you land an interview, do >>>>>>>>>> you get called back for a second and if not >>>>>>>>>> why not? Did you decline a second interview?

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