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Naughty Child/Angry Parent

by Sara

Jul 21, 2010

So, I am employed at a child care facility where I teach 4/5 year old classroom. Today one of the naughtiest children in my class decided to throw a plastic watering can at a child and when told to stop he hit the kid again with the can in the face. He was taken to our director and talked it out. When his mom came to pick him up I told him to tell ...See More

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montmo Sara: There seems to be a lot of issues here that could have been handled differently. As you might have noted in previous posts recently, some of us feel that rather then labeling a child as something like "naughty" we need to look into why his or her behavior is what it is. If you feel this boy is "naughty" what have you and the other adults work...See MoreSara: There seems to be a lot of issues here that could have been handled differently. As you might have noted in previous posts recently, some of us feel that rather then labeling a child as something like "naughty" we need to look into why his or her behavior is what it is. If you feel this boy is "naughty" what have you and the other adults working with him done to help him overcome his issues. Does he hit because he has limited verbal skills? What seems to trigger his outbursts? What have the adults observed in his routine that might prevent him from being successful? Why was he taken out of the room to talk it out? Why was this not addressed in the classroom including all children involved in the incident? If he has a history of hitting, why was an adult not being proactive about stopping the hitting before he did that? There is almost always two sides to a story and it doesn't look like this boy had a chance to express his side of the story.

On 7/21/10, Sara wrote: > So, I am employed at a child care facility where I teach > 4/5 year old classroom. Today one of the naughtiest > children in my class decided to throw a plastic watering > can at a child and when told to stop he hit the kid again > with the can in the face. He was taken to our director and > talked it out.

I think you expected too much from the child to set him up to tell his mother what had happened at school. I can't imagine any child who had hit someone to openly admit this to his mother just because the teacher asked him to. Also, no parent after a long, busy day wants to be greeted by such negative news about her child. If this is an ongoing problem and you honestly feel you have done everything from your end to work with him and the behaviors, then the better approach might have been. "hello, Mrs M, here is Junior and I think he's ready to go home now! Oh,by the way, is it possible to call you tonight and discuss a concern I have? What would be a good time? Great!"

So, yes, you did make a professional error bringing this up in front of other parents. That mother deserves an apology. If she is that angry, I wouldn't be surprised if she calls the supervisor about this. I know I would as a parent.

It sounds like this is a new position for you and perhaps you have not yet had training in early childhood education or experience. Everyone makes mistakes, even those in the biz for years. Chalk it up as a mistake that you made and try to learn from it. I definitely would learn ways to assist these children who have issues and help them rather then just punishing them verbally. I hope it works out for you and the little guy and his mother.

Jul 21, 2010

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Leah There are two brief articles that you may find helpful as you work with this child:

"Helping Children Cope with Anger" and "Guidelines for Educator-Parent Conferences Concerning Angry Children."

A parent conference could help establish a connection with her. Please allow adequate time to really listen to her concerns and to esta...See More

Sep 13, 2010

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Looking for mini-posters for my home daycare

by Meme

Aug 2, 2010

Hi! I use to visit these boards frequently when I was teaching PreK prior to having my own children. I've been home with my babies for the past 3 years and am getting ready to start my own in-home preschool. I'm looking for some educational posters that are no bigger than 8 1/2 X 11 with things like numbers and the alphabet on them. I have search a...See More

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msmichelle On 9/27/10, judy wrote: > check out this site for high quality printables > > > > On 8/02/10, Meme wrote: >> Hi! I use to visit these boards frequently when I was >> teaching PreK prior to having my own children. I've been >> home with my babies for the past 3 years and am getting >> ready to start my own in-h...See More

Oct 2, 2010

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judy Sorry I dont here as much as I wish I could. The link was for a site called classroom-printables

I have been a customer for almost a year now and have never been disappointed. I just started buying the clipart there too so I can make some of my own stuff. My kids love the halloween stuff I got as well. Fun! Fun! Fun!

Judy

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Oct 7, 2010

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Any one have a daycare called Busy Bees?

by just curious

Aug 5, 2010

I found this website that is for sale: [link removed]

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FREE Tele-Class With Kris Murray on August 10th

by msmichelle

Aug 6, 2010

Hi,

Are you a child care business owner or start-up looking for unique, proven ways to grow your enrollment, and get more profitable?

Well, my friend Kris Murray is hosting a *free* teleclass workshop called:

"What's Working NOW to Build Enrollment: Pwerful Real-World Strategies Guaranteed to Grow Your Enrollment, Even...See More

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Re: Goddard School, North Brunswick, NJ

by msmichelle

Sep 4, 2010

On 9/03/10, ahluwalia wrote: > The school seemed like a well run , well staffed enterprise > on our first visit. We decided to try it out with my 14 > month old son for a few days a week, which went okay for > the first 3 days. On day four when my husband went to pick > him up he saw that his upper lip was extremely swollen, > wit...See More

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Toddler Fall Art & Activities?

by Todds

Sep 6, 2010

I have recently been placed in the toddler room from the 2s room. I am looking for more age appropriate art projects and activites relating to the fall as well as our curriculum theme that is "Me and My Family". Im up for any ideas and thoughts even if they are not art related anything for room decor and circle time would be great

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jo Check out [link removed]

Sep 8, 2010

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Robyn 3 years of Preschool Curriculum all in one

On 9/08/10, jo wrote: > Check out [link removed]

Sep 11, 2010

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home daycare

by robyn

Sep 21, 2010

A major concern for parents is choosing childcare for their children. The first step is to decide which type of childcare arrangement you prefer. After all, your children are the most important things on earth and you are making a selection as to the adults who are going to take care of them. These people will influence your child, keep your child ...See More

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After School Class Management

by Wendy

Sep 22, 2010

I recently started working in the AS program at my local elementary school. I am also working toward my teaching degree through an accredited online college. After we enjoy outdoor time, we go inside to split up into two groups, K-2 and 3-5 for 30 minutes of homework time. I have been blessed with the K-2 class, which is exceptionally unruly, boist...See More

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montmo Wendy: I guess I am confused as to what your role actually is in this. If you are the assistant, then where is your lead teacher in this? I have always had clear guidelines for my assistants in my classrooms and there is no way that I would expect her/him to be supervising that many children without a set plan and materials to implement them. That ...See MoreWendy: I guess I am confused as to what your role actually is in this. If you are the assistant, then where is your lead teacher in this? I have always had clear guidelines for my assistants in my classrooms and there is no way that I would expect her/him to be supervising that many children without a set plan and materials to implement them. That is my responsibility as the lead and I do not understand exactly what it is that you are trying to implement.

First, I would decide what is needed material wise for the room.I see Materials Requested in our local paper all the time for after care programs. I use a small portable CD player(you could borrow one I am sure somewhere) and the public library has a vast selection of CDs for children that would be appropriate(and free)

I think children that age who have been in class all day which is common now a days for full day K(versus the previous "play" approach)are not in need of "learning the routines of school life" and then simply expected to "settle down" and work again. My question is, why does this program have to resemble "school life"? Children "misbehave" because their needs are not being met for any variety of reasons. Is your lead not experienced either? I still think that is her place to be giving you guidance instead of just expecting you to do crowd control. Either the people who are running the program want a quality program that meets the needs of the children, or they just want someone to do crowd control.

I would look into what other programs are doing and garner some ideas as to what works there.

I am sorry I can not help any more then this as I am having difficulty visualizing what is actually supposed to be happening and why the people in charge are not giving you more guidance in what your role really is. Good luck!

On 9/23/10, Wendy wrote: > There is another teacher - she is the teacher and I am her > assistant. I have about 20-25 kids depending on who is/is not > picked up before (or during) this homework time. I generally do > expect the kids to seat down immediately... they are required to > wash their hands before sitting down. I realize they need a few > minutes to comprehend that they are indoors now and need to use > "indoor voices". The classroom I'm using is borrowed... another > teacher uses it during the day for a Spanish class, so my options > are limited as to what I can/cannot do. I also realize that the > Kindergartners will have to get used to the routines of school > life (they seem to give the most trouble). There is a cabinet in > the room that is for AS care only but there is not much to work > with in it. I appreciate and like the advice on CDs but I don't > think we have any equipment available to us for that. > > On 9/22/10, montmo wrote: >> wendy: Are you by yourself and how many children do you have >> in your group? Does the group come in from outside and then >> expected to immediately "do homework" or seatwork? >> >> You need some transitional activity to settle them in. That >> can be a fun CD song followed by a quieting, calming activity >> using movement that can be as simple as stretching or >> playing "mirror" (Watch what I am doing and copy my movements) >> Then give the children a choice of whatever one needs to do. >> My first grader only has 10 minutes of homework once a week >> and she doesn't enjoy coloring coloring books. She does like >> free drawing with paper and colored pencils. Some children >> enjoy playdoh, others cutting out shapes or gluing. It is >> important that you model your expectations. It should be a >> privilege to be able to choose whatever activity one wants to >> do. Maybe the older children can choose to read to the >> younger ones. Most children enjoy music and movement so I >> would collect some good CD's with learning type songs that >> they can at least be learning something while having fun. I >> would think 30 minutes can be used up pretty quickly just >> with the transitional activity and then reading a good story. >> That age can handle chapter books well if the same children >> come each day(Look at Jim Trelease Read Aloud Handbooks for >> suggested titles) And shame on your co teachers. >> >> >> 9/22/10, Wendy wrote: >>> I recently started working in the AS program at my local >>> elementary school. I am also working toward my teaching >>> degree through an accredited online college. After we enjoy >>> outdoor time, we go inside to split up into two groups, K-2 >>> and 3-5 for 30 minutes of homework time. I have been blessed >>> with the K-2 class, which is exceptionally unruly, >>> boisterous and messy. I realize that my weakness is >>> classroom management but I have no earthly idea how to get >>> these guys to listen much less follow a routine. It is >>> supposed to be homework but most do not have homework or >>> prefer to do it at home. I give them coloring and activity >>> pages and crayons to occupy their time but they often fight >>> over pages and crayons then become loud. I am very green at >>> all this and could really use some guidance on how to manage >>> these little guys. I have no support from the other "more >>> seasoned" teachers - as a matter of fact they are counting >>> down the days until I quit. I would appreciate some >>> management techniques that work!

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Leah I agree with the last poster. Some random thoughts:

These children are tired! Do they get a snack? Most programs provide some food after a long day at school. Could you provide some inexpensive snack if they can come in quietly?

It's unrealistic to think that they will just sit, do activity sheets and get along at the end of a ...See More

Oct 4, 2010

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Childcare and Eating Habits

by John

Oct 5, 2010

Hello Everyone,

I was just curious if anyone has ever heard of any research studies done linking the impact of childcare centers vs. family care on long term eating habits/behaviors?

Thanks!

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Preschool teacher, trying again to share a link On 10/06/10, Preschool teacher wrote: > Would this be of any help?

Oct 6, 2010

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Preschool teacher, 3rd and final attempt I think I had a typo before. Hopefully this link will work. otherwise, I give up.

Oct 6, 2010

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Need your input please

by Kindergarten Teacher

Oct 6, 2010

Hi there! I am a regular on the K chatboard and like to check in here on the preschool board too:) I have been asked by some local preschool and daycare teachers to come and speak with their group about how they can better prepare their children for Kindergarten. I have a brochure that the teachers in our county have given our input as far as the a...See More

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Schari I have been to trainings like this. Our trainer gave us a list of readiness skills which was interesting and helpful. But the most helpful part to me is breakding down how all the things we do each day relate to each of those learning domains.

Letting the providers know that every single process they let the child go through in a day is eq...See More

Oct 7, 2010

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Kindergarten Teacher Thank you! That also is a great idea(s). I have never done anything like this and I am by no means an expert! I was maybe also thinking about offering ideas on how to build on these skills with hands on activities. Giving them ideas they can take back with them. I also think the action of them brainstorming ideas that they may already do that work ...See MoreThank you! That also is a great idea(s). I have never done anything like this and I am by no means an expert! I was maybe also thinking about offering ideas on how to build on these skills with hands on activities. Giving them ideas they can take back with them. I also think the action of them brainstorming ideas that they may already do that work and can share with each other is a great idea! Thanks again!

On 10/07/10, Schari wrote: > I have been to trainings like this. Our trainer gave us a > list of readiness skills which was interesting and helpful. > But the most helpful part to me is breakding down how all the > things we do each day relate to each of those learning > domains. > > Letting the providers know that every single process they let > the child go through in a day is equipping children with > readiness skills. That readiness skills aren't best > accomplished by 'drilling' or 'worksheets', but are best > accomplished by daily living and experiencing everything in a > hands on way. > > Hope that makes sense. > > > > > On 10/06/10, Kindergarten Teacher wrote: >> Hi there! I am a regular on the K chatboard and like to >> check in here on the preschool board too:) >> I have been asked by some local preschool and daycare >> teachers to come and speak with their group about how they >> can better prepare their children for Kindergarten. I have >> a brochure that the teachers in our county have given our >> input as far as the areas of social-emotional areas, beg. >> math skills,reading readiness, and motor skills. We are >> not saying that the "lists" of skills have to be mastered >> of course, but are some areas to work on and give children >> plenty of opportunities to build upon. >> Anyways, I feel that they will most likely already know >> many of these things. I guess that I am looking for any >> suggestions that you may have as to what they may want me >> to focus on. I certainly do not want to just "read" a >> brochure to them. What would you want to hear in a >> situation like this? >> Thanks!

Oct 7, 2010

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