But even with such children, a teacher can set...See MoreNo real curriculum or book for this age group that I know if but we've found that the teacher - and class size - can make a big difference in dealing with this problem. Of course there are some even very young children who are steeped in mean behavior having only known that in their own homes.
But even with such children, a teacher can set a tone for the classroom that can curb the behavior. Children should not be encouraged to compete with other if it's meanness we want to stop. Be careful to not put graded work up on the walls.
If a teacher can give the class the sense that there is plenty of 'good' to go around, that she has praise enough for everybody and shows regard for everybody, the meanness starts to dry up in most children. Children like adults often get mean when they feel threatened or feel they're being ignored. Creating a sense of community in the class can help to nip meanness in the bud - "We're all in this together, me (the teacher) as well as you. I want you all to be safe here each day and happy here and I will do everything I possible can to make our class safe and happy. I look to you to do the same.If we can do that, it makes a Great School Year."
But if your class size is 25 and up, I've found it's almost impossible to get children of any age to believe that there's enough 'good' to go around.
Good luck. > I was just wondering if anyone has a curriculum or a book > that they have used to get lessons for a small 1st grade > girls group. The girls are really into being mean to > eachother and the whole relational aggression stuff has > started already. Their teacher wants me to do something so > I was just hoping someone had a resource and lessons for > this type of small group! Thanks so much :)
On 3/02/10, Sara wrote: > No real curriculum or book for this age group that I know if > but we've found that the teacher - and class size - can make > a big difference in dealing with this problem. Of course > there are some even very young children who are steeped in > mean behavior having only known that in their own homes. > > But even with such children, a teacher can set a tone for the > classroom that can curb the behavior. Children should not be > encouraged to compete with other if it's meanness we want to > stop. Be careful to not put graded work up on the walls. > > If a teacher can give the class the sense that there is > plenty of 'good' to go around, that she has praise enough for > everybody and shows regard for everybody, the meanness starts > to dry up in most children. Children like adults often get > mean when they feel threatened or feel they're being ignored. > Creating a sense of community in the class can help to nip > meanness in the bud - "We're all in this together, me (the > teacher) as well as you. I want you all to be safe here each > day and happy here and I will do everything I possible can to > make our class safe and happy. I look to you to do the > same.If we can do that, it makes a Great School Year." > > But if your class size is 25 and up, I've found it's almost > impossible to get children of any age to believe that there's > enough 'good' to go around. > > Good luck. >> I was just wondering if anyone has a curriculum or a book >> that they have used to get lessons for a small 1st grade >> girls group. The girls are really into being mean to >> eachother and the whole relational aggression stuff has >> started already. Their teacher wants me to do something so >> I was just hoping someone had a resource and lessons for >> this type of small group! Thanks so much :)
I am currently and elem. school counselor and I am thinking of moving to a middle school position. What are the major differences in job responsibilities, classroom lessons, student interactions,etc. ? Thanks
In 08/09 I got certified in New Jersey. My pool opened up dramatically, I started getting some interviews and administrators were only getting 150-250 resumes for 1 job. Well, I did get a job in New Jersey as a counselor for 09/10. However, now all the budgets are being reduced GREATLY in New Jersey. Most middle and elementary school counselors are getting fired to save money. I believe NJ will now become like NY.
My advice: Become a school psychologist. They are always mandated because of special education laws and you can do private practice on the side.
THanks for the info but I am located in Long Island NY. It is tough out here. Please take care :)
Upper Merion Area School District in King of Prussia, PA. It's an > elementary School Counselor position. >> >> Hi Gail: >> >> What District? I have been applying since 2006 for a job as a >> Guidance Counselor and no luck. I am not giving up though. >> >> Chantal
On 3/20/10, Chantal wrote: > On 3/19/10, Gail wrote: >> Hi Gail, > > THanks for the info but I am located in Long Island NY. It is tough > out here. Please take care :) > > > Upper Merion Area School District in King of Prussia, PA. It's an >> elementary School Counselor position. >>> >>> Hi Gail: >>> >>> What District? I have been applying since 2006 for a job as a >>> Guidance Counselor and no luck. I am not giving up though. >>> >>> Chantal
I am currently a School Counselor in Memphis, TN. My husband's job is requiring us to relocate to the Greenville/Spartanburg area. I am curious about the school districts and am wondering if there are any jobs in that area? I would love to chat with anyone who is currently living and working in Greenville/Spartanburg :-).
On 3/20/10, Leslie wro...See Morecheck local district websites for jobs. also email counselors listed on schools near where you will live. counselors are generally nice people and they will surely be able to give you some info about the districts/job market. i work in SC but i am close to the NC border and not really close to spartanburg. good luck!
On 3/20/10, Leslie wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am currently a School Counselor in Memphis, TN. My > husband's job is requiring us to relocate to the > Greenville/Spartanburg area. I am curious about the school > districts and am wondering if there are any jobs in that > area? I would love to chat with anyone who is currently > living and working in Greenville/Spartanburg :-). > > Any feedback is helpful. > > Thanks! Leslie
I would really like to spend the bulk of my time working with students and hope that I'll have some control in that area. I would like to work at the elementary level.
I would love to hear from others who are currently studying school counseling or from school counselors who are in FL. I'm near Orlando...
check out donorschoose.org if you haven't done so already! i've recieved 2 grants this year already! it's so easy to do, definitely a great resource. i know our counselor budget is limited so any help i can get is greatly appreciated.
Lacey: I am actually helping start the group and aid throughout. My school counselor, our district resource counselor, and I met together and sat down to discuss the group. It has become a more girl's topics group. I got the impression that you were pretty offended by my post. I apologize if it bothered you. To apply to many graduate counseling programs they ask you to have volunteer experience in a counseling setting. That is all I am attempting to do. Thank you though for your response. =-)
On 4/03/10, lacey wrote: > in response to the original question...i am confused as to why > your are running a group if you are not a counselor. why is the > counselor not running this group? sexting and bullying are > different topics...that sorta confuses me. a pre-post test that > someone used in another district would be of no help to you. > when you create a group, you plan out your sessions ahead of > time based on your goals and objectives for the group. you > create the pre-post tests based on that. so the pre-post test > that one counselor uses would not be valid for you group...does > that make sense? if someone is asking you to run the group, > your first step should be to meet with this person and discuss > goals and objectives...but again, if it's group counseling they > want you to do, then you are not qualified to do so with until > after you complete coursework in school counseling. > > vet counselor, i have to disagree with you on this. pre-post > tests are not for counselors that are afraid to "talk with > kids". they are for counselors that wish to ensure that their > efforts are effective and want to learn how they can be better > next time they do that particular group, etc. they are to > ensure accountability in a comprehensive school counseling > program. also, if this is a teacher wanting run the group, the > purpose should be structured/educational and less > discussion/counseling based for it to be ethical. > > On 3/28/10, vet counselor wrote: >> On 3/24/10, tigipibi wrote: >>> I am currently a sixth grade science teacher, but I am >>> looking into taking graduate classes for school counseling. >>> The counselor at my school said she would like me to hold >>> an after school group that talks about cyber >>> sexting/bullying. My school district resource counselor >>> sent us a forward for creating a pre-post test, but I was >>> wondering if districts had some of these already made. I >>> would like to have this group after school, but I am not >>> sure what kind of curriculum to follow. We have second step >>> at our school and our health teacher already did the second >>> step bullying curriculum with most of our students. Thanks >>> for any help or advice. >> >> Since the curriculum was done, use the time as a discussion >> group. Ask them what they learned. Get them talking. Ask them >> to teach you what they learned. Ask them if it was helpful. >> >> School counseling is mostly about talking with kids and >> getting them to talk - it's not about walking them through >> pre-packaged curriculum. Pre-post tests are for counselors >> afraid of talking with kids or for counselors who don't >> recognize that counseling is about interacting with people, >> not pen and paper tests. >> >> Get comfortable with a group of kids and helping them to get >> comfortable talking if you really want to be a counselor.
On 4/05/10, tigipibi wrote: > Vet: Thank you for your helpful response. =-) > > Lacey: I am actually helping start the group and aid throughout. My > school counselor, our district resource counselor, and I met > together and sat down to discuss the group. It has become a more > girl's topics group. I got the impression that you were pretty > offended by my post. I apologize if it bothered you. To apply to > many graduate counseling programs they ask you to have volunteer > experience in a counseling setting. That is all I am attempting to > do. Thank you though for your response. =-) > > On 4/03/10, lacey wrote: >> in response to the original question...i am confused as to why >> your are running a group if you are not a counselor. why is the >> counselor not running this group? sexting and bullying are >> different topics...that sorta confuses me. a pre-post test that >> someone used in another district would be of no help to you. >> when you create a group, you plan out your sessions ahead of >> time based on your goals and objectives for the group. you >> create the pre-post tests based on that. so the pre-post test >> that one counselor uses would not be valid for you group...does >> that make sense? if someone is asking you to run the group, >> your first step should be to meet with this person and discuss >> goals and objectives...but again, if it's group counseling they >> want you to do, then you are not qualified to do so with until >> after you complete coursework in school counseling. >> >> vet counselor, i have to disagree with you on this. pre-post >> tests are not for counselors that are afraid to "talk with >> kids". they are for counselors that wish to ensure that their >> efforts are effective and want to learn how they can be better >> next time they do that particular group, etc. they are to >> ensure accountability in a comprehensive school counseling >> program. also, if this is a teacher wanting run the group, the >> purpose should be structured/educational and less >> discussion/counseling based for it to be ethical. >> >> On 3/28/10, vet counselor wrote: >>> On 3/24/10, tigipibi wrote: >>>> I am currently a sixth grade science teacher, but I am >>>> looking into taking graduate classes for school counseling. >>>> The counselor at my school said she would like me to hold >>>> an after school group that talks about cyber >>>> sexting/bullying. My school district resource counselor >>>> sent us a forward for creating a pre-post test, but I was >>>> wondering if districts had some of these already made. I >>>> would like to have this group after school, but I am not >>>> sure what kind of curriculum to follow. We have second step >>>> at our school and our health teacher already did the second >>>> step bullying curriculum with most of our students. Thanks >>>> for any help or advice. >>> >>> Since the curriculum was done, use the time as a discussion >>> group. Ask them what they learned. Get them talking. Ask them >>> to teach you what they learned. Ask them if it was helpful. >>> >>> School counseling is mostly about talking with kids and >>> getting them to talk - it's not about walking them through >>> pre-packaged curriculum. Pre-post tests are for counselors >>> afraid of talking with kids or for counselors who don't >>> recognize that counseling is about interacting with people, >>> not pen and paper tests. >>> >>> Get comfortable with a group of kids and helping them to get >>> comfortable talking if you really want to be a counselor.
I would ultimately like to be a school counselor and need to get a Masters Degree. I'm looking to get the degree online. Does anyone know how's job openings feel about getting a Masters Degree online??
Also, anyone know the best place to get Masters in Psychology online?
On 3/25/10, Claire wrote: > I would ultimately like to be a school counselor and need > to get a Masters Degree. I'm looking to get the degree > online. Does anyone know how's job openings feel about > getting a Masters Degree online?? > > Also, anyone know the best place to get Masters in > Psychology online? > > Thanks > Claire