You don't 'get' students to learn - they have to WANT to learn and that can't be forced. They have to be seduced into learning by answering the key motivation question... "What's in it for me?"
The answer to motivating students from the INSIDE lies in satisfying their psycholigical needs.
There's a full program on it here: [link removed]
On 12/01/10, Catherine Becker wrote: > How do you transition students from needing external > rewards to becoming more intrinsicly motivated? > > How do you get students to learn just for the love of > learning?
The first thing is to have it really be learning. Too often in schools we plan activities that are not meaningful learning to children and then ask - 'why don't they love to learn?'
Learning is an empowering feeling - when kids are truly learning or feel like they are - they light up. When we hand out lists of 20 obscure vocabulary words and tell them to write sentences and memorize the definitions, that may not be learning... actually. Why would any child or teenager love an activity that doesn't work for their learning style?
But from that we leap to say - 'that student doesn't love learning.' Well... he/she might but memorizing definitions to 20 words isn't really learning.
And a lot of what we do in school is really just memorizing - not learning. Learning is a journey - there's a sense of discovery that's inherent to the process - but few school classrooms work to create that sense of discovery.
Most people including most kids really love the feeling of learning - they say things like "Wow, that's cool." "Wow, I didn't realize that."
Just because it's school doesn't mean it's learning.
However, I am not going to give you suggestions. If he is doing well in your class, you are already on the right track, and he will remember the things you teach him later on in life. It really does take just one good role model to show a kid that he cares to help him make important choices in the future. With your guidance and some maturity, he might turn out just fine.
On 12/01/10, Tom wrote: > I firmly believe our role as teachers SHOULD BE to help guide > the intellectual, personal, and social development of each > student -- all through interaction with the subject matter, > their peers, and ourselves. How we deal with them ... and > help them deal with themselves and each other can make all > the difference. > > Our country (and much of the world) has gone off the beam in > this regard; the notion that our job is to teach subject > matter rather than students is laughable. If I weren't > crying, that is. > > The fact that we must now teach TESTABLE subject matter only > puts us farther off the mark than ever. > > Will America ever learn? I doubt it. Too much fear. Too much > anger. Too many control-lovers masquerading as educators. Too > much reactive and erroneous thinking masquerading as > educational wisdom. > > Too bad. > > After all that, however, comes a profound YES! Do all you can > to reach the kid, while you create a safe and supportive > environment for all in the classroom. If you have the > autonomy and freedom at your school to create your own "best > classroom," don't shy away from it. Trust your instincts -- > as far as I can tell, they are right on. > > > On 12/01/10, Mr. M wrote: >> I am a new teacher and this year I have a student with just >> an overall bad attitude. He throws insults at his >> classmates and is very defiant. I understand that my role >> as a teacher is to guide the students and ensure that they >> are learning the material, but would I be over-idealistic >> to believe that my role may also be to help shape these >> students into better citizens? I don't want to overstep my >> boundaries as a teacher, but even though I can manage this >> student in my class, I am afraid of who he will become when >> he is outside of the school's walls in a couple of years. >> >> Any suggestions you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
LeahI totally agree with c and Tom. You don't say how old the student is, but taking an interest in him as a person could be helpful. Privately you might say something like, "I see good in you. You are too special a person to insult your classmates and be defiant to teachers." Then listen. You might find the following article of interest:
I'll usually say something like "Please get ready to work silently. If you need to move to a different spot in the room, you may." (I'm trying to instill some judgement and self-control in them without ME having to be the bad guy who does all the moving.) A select few will actually change their seat. The rest basically sit there and pretend as if I never said anything!
I can think of various different systems that involve points and rewards, which may be what it takes for now. The problem is that if the particular students are not motivated by the reward, they really choose not to help the class towards the goal. This has been a frustration since I started teaching seven years ago. I still have not figured out anything effective.
Prof. Howard SeemanOn 12/03/10, Jackie Bladow wrote: > I am working in a job share situation this year. My partner > teacher and I have different styles when it comes to > behavior management. I prefer to get right down to > business, and I really have a hard time with chit-chat > after I've asked them to work silently. > > I'll usually say somet...See MoreOn 12/03/10, Jackie Bladow wrote: > I am working in a job share situation this year. My partner > teacher and I have different styles when it comes to > behavior management. I prefer to get right down to > business, and I really have a hard time with chit-chat > after I've asked them to work silently. > > I'll usually say something like "Please get ready to work > silently. If you need to move to a different spot in the > room, you may." (I'm trying to instill some judgement and > self-control in them without ME having to be the bad guy > who does all the moving.) A select few will actually change > their seat. The rest basically sit there and pretend as if > I never said anything! > > I can think of various different systems that involve > points and rewards, which may be what it takes for now. The > problem is that if the particular students are not > motivated by the reward, they really choose not to help the > class towards the goal. This has been a frustration since I > started teaching seven years ago. I still have not figured > out anything effective. > > Any thoughts?
Hard to answer on just email here.
However, I think that this can be helpful to you: The book and Training Video: PREVENTING Classroom Discipline Problems
If you can get this book and video: [they are in many libraries, so you don't have to buy them] email me and I can refer you to the sections of the book and video [that demonstrates the effective vs. the ineffective teacher] that can help you.
If your library does not have them, you can get them at:
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that are also used at this online course: [link removed]
See: Reviews at: [link removed]
If you cannot get the book or video, email me anyway, and I will try to help.
Best regards,
Howard
Howard Seeman, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, City Univ. of New York
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EdHey there - would you mind sharing what grade, and bit more about the kinds of specific behaviors that are going on? Also, what time of day does the behavior start? If you're still checking the forum, it would be helpful to ask you a few questions to get a better sense of what's going on. Thanks! Ed.
I NEED advise. I was a stay at home mom. I have strong background in Math and science and passed GACE at first try. I changed careers and received a teaching position via provisional certificate. Following that I received a teaching position at Title I school. As a alternate route teacher I interned and have not done student teaching. I struggled with classroom management and my students performed average on CRCT. The school had not meet AYP during two years I taught there. The school has HIGH turnover of teachers and infamous for it. At end of the 2nd year I resigned to concentrate on finishing my classes and family, to regain my composure and to receive teaching certificate I also took some classroom management classes and observed good teachers/ volunteered at my children's school.
Since then (one and half academic year) I have received my Masters of Education and teaching certificate. How do I go about getting a teaching job? How do I answer questions about classroom management? How can I show that I can channel my knowledge in teaching?
How do I answer questions about classroom management? Explain that classroom management was a weakness, so you have worked very hard in that area and feel confident that you will be able to manage a classroom well, now.
How can I show that I can channel my knowledge in teaching? Have you done student teaching? Do you have recent references? Do you have a portfolio? You need to be able to sell yourself as a competent teacher.
Reading the following and clicking on the links in it might be helpful.
I am currently taking a college course in classroom management for teachers and just completed reviewing an article by Marvin Marshall entitled "Discipline without stress, punishment or rewards." I wonder whether his approach is "pie in the sky" or if it really works in the real world of public schools? Is anyone successfully using the classroom management model described below?
The central theme of the article is that offering choices to students engenders ownership and personal responsibility where as attempting to control, coerce or manipulate student behavior produces a temporary solution at best and leads to feelings of student resentment. Superior teachers practice positive verbal communications, offer choices and raise questions inviting personal reflection. Superior teachers also create structure, procedures and routines which are taught, practiced and reinforced with students resulting in the foundation of classroom management.
According to Mr. Marshall, students like teachers make conscious decisions about their behavior. Student behavior can be influenced but not controlled and the opportunity to make choices empowers students and can lead to lasting changes in social development. By employing the three practices of superior teachers, the teacher promotes responsible student behavior and produces better outcomes than the traditional adversarial and negative approaches.
Your comments on this classroom management model would be appreciated.....both positive and negative.
I call it teacher discipline. Where as, I first need to be organized and structured. I also, hold myself accountable in modeling positive behaviors and to be consistent with procedures. I try to empower my students during conflicts by providing choices and ask questions that reflect on the students behavior. This is not always perfect, however when I can use a calm tone and a positive reaction to misbehavior things usually go well. My question is how do you react or what strategy do you use when a student misbehaves.
On 2/21/11, todd wrote: > >> Dale, >> >> I agree with the article by Marvin Marshall entitled "Discipline > without stress, punishment or reward." >>> Once I set the classroom expectations it's up to the students > to make responsible choices. > > I call it teacher discipline. Where as, I first need to be > organized and structured. I also, hold myself accountable in > modeling positive behaviors and to be consistent with procedures. > I try to empower my students during conflicts by providing > choices and ask questions that reflect on the students behavior. > This is not always perfect, however when I can use a calm tone > and a positive reaction to misbehavior things usually go well. My > question is how do you react or what strategy do you use when a > student misbehaves. > > todd
I had a son who made grunting noises all the time at school. He was always in trouble for being disruptive but he swore it was not on purpose. Then he stopped doing that and did throat clearing all the time. Maybe it's his allergies. So we tried different allergy meds. Sometimes he would tap one finger on the desk incessantly, then that would change. He would get angry for being punished when he wasn't doing it on purpose. The more he was punished the more it occurred. He would tell me the teacher lied when she said she sees him do it on purpose. He never denied what he did just that it was not on purpose. Oh! but he was doing on purpose, I watched him do it on purpose says the teacher. I'm not buying that anymore, he is a people pleaser. This makes no sense but they locked him in as a problem student with a parent who no longer supports them. They were 1/2 right and I kept searching for answers.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting the results to be different.
It turned out to be vocal and motor tics. Tourettes.
Tourettes is anxiety driven and the more he was punished the more pronounced the tics. He was being treated for severe anxiety issues but I never dreamed of Tourettes. He would try to hold the tic in but the doc said it had to come out sooner or later so it would change if need be. It was a diagnosis that would change his life. Once treated his life was so much better, not perfect as some wanted, but much, much better.
The article is a good one and the main point one should take away from it is GET TO THE ROOT of the problem and then you can find the answer to deal with it. Too much is passed off a a kid deliberately being disruptive for the sake of being disruptive without looking deeper. There is ALWAYS a reason. Always.
LeahAs I was reading your post I was thinking Tourettes. I'm glad your son is getting the assistance he needs and I hope your post helps to remind teachers of the symptoms.
You don't 'get' students to learn - they have to WANT to learn and that can't be forced. They have to be seduced into learning by answering the key motivation question... "What's in it for me?"
The answer to motivating students from the INSIDE lies in satisfying their psycholigical needs.
There's a full program on it ...See More