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I need ideas on how to deal with an uncooperative four year old. When he is disapointed in something, he runs away and says he is mad and refuses to join the group. He gets upset when another child has a birthday, he yells when it is nap time, he throws toys when he doesn't get his way etc. His mom doesn't know how to deal with him.
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by Daniel Hanson
May 5, 2011
Hi, all!
Well, it’s the last month of school for me and it seems as each year goes by, I seem to dislike this time of the school year more and more. I think the reason for this feeling is I see some kids start to “crash and burn”, both academically and behavior wise. Do you have any suggestions on how to combat this mentality?
...See MoreHi, all!
Well, it’s the last month of school for me and it seems as each year goes by, I seem to dislike this time of the school year more and more. I think the reason for this feeling is I see some kids start to “crash and burn”, both academically and behavior wise. Do you have any suggestions on how to combat this mentality?
Let me say that having more variety during the last month of the school year would help. And I know some teachers do huge point projects, etc., at the end of the year. However, part of me is saying that I shouldn’t have to entertain the students just because it’s the end of the school year, nor should make huge projects for the kids to do because what we do all semester is important. While I was a student in high school and in college, we were not entertained at the end of the school year. We were expected to work until the end.
In terms of administrative actions, during the last month of school, teachers can’t enforce teacher detentions, meaning, we can turn them into the office, but the office will only document them in the computer system. They won’t assign Saturday School or an administrative detention because it’s too late for them to process the paper work. So, that just leaves teachers with the option of suspending the kid from class for that period or having a teacher-parent conference.
At this time of the year, I feel like I use “ignoring the behavior” as a default tactic as well as nagging because at this point in the year, my only options are to kick the kid out of class for the period or try and set up a teacher-parent conference. There is no middle ground, like giving a teacher detention. Also, I think the kids pick up on the fact that the administration doesn’t process stuff like teacher detentions at the end of the school year. Some kids get really wound up this time of year, I tell ya.
Like I said, I am open to ideas.
Thanks for listening, Daniel Hanson Public High School Spanish Teacher Atwater, California, USA
by returning teacher
May 7, 2011
I know am venturing into unpopluar territory with my request. I am looking for specific consequences I can use in my classroom when students choose to break rules or exhibit just plain bad behavior. I am admittedly "old school," and still believe there should be consequences for our actions whether we are students in school or adults in the real wo...See MoreI know am venturing into unpopluar territory with my request. I am looking for specific consequences I can use in my classroom when students choose to break rules or exhibit just plain bad behavior. I am admittedly "old school," and still believe there should be consequences for our actions whether we are students in school or adults in the real world. (After all, why does a police officer give us a ticket when we speed? It is a consequence we must face when we choose to break the law.)
I understand the need for consistency in the classroom. I understand the need for rules. I understand the need for praise and affirmation. I understand the need for procedures. I get it! And I have used all those things unsuccessfully in the past - partly due to my own shortcomings, and partly due to the nonsense (and bull&%#@) from my students.
My last teaching assignment (2009-2010) was 7th and 8th grades in a combined classroom with me teaching English, reading, math, history, geography, and science. My year was awful! The student behavior was so bad that I had a full- time aide, and still asked the principal to install a surveillance camera in my room. The only parents I ever saw or heard from were the parents of the "good" kids. The rest of the parents had checked out of their kids lives long before I ever came along.
I am returning to teaching at a different school in the fall, and will be teaching Pre-Algebra and Algebra I to 9th and 10th grade students with a few 8th graders thrown into the mix. I do not want, and cannot endure, another year like my last one.
Please share with me the specific consequences you all are using. I simply cannot send every misbehaving student to the office, especially for first offenses and minor infractions. Should students write sentences? sit in the hall during class? have lunch detention in my room (which means I'm giving up my own lunch time)? should I call their parents? What are your specific suggestions??? When you give consequences do you follow a standard progression from one consequence to the next if the problem is repeated? For example: first offense, write 50 sentences; second offense, write 100 sentences; third offense, sit in the hallway; fourth offense, phone call home; etc.
I look forward to all your replies!
by Daniel Hanson
May 21, 2011
This was a thread from the High School chatboard that I wanted to get your guys' feedback on as well. I teach in a public high school in California.
As for calling parents during the middle of class, I know at least one teacher at my school that has done that. I did it a few times during my first years of teaching, but not much since then....See MoreThis was a thread from the High School chatboard that I wanted to get your guys' feedback on as well. I teach in a public high school in California.
As for calling parents during the middle of class, I know at least one teacher at my school that has done that. I did it a few times during my first years of teaching, but not much since then. It was very effective the time I didn't in my last period of the day a few years back. The students just loved to chat in there. I called one girl's mom at work and handed the phone to the student after a quick explanation, and the girl got real quiet as did the class. She didn't have so much attitude. But I was inconsistent about it. It seems like some classes come along and just want to push the envelop. I also remember having one girl talking during a test. I called up the mom and had their girl talk to her. Well, the girl started arguing with the mom on the phone in front of the class and that didn't work. So, I kicked her out of class. Needless to say, that girl eventually ended up having to go to an alternative school until her senior year anyway.
One administrator, although supportive, mentioned that there might be a privacy issue with calling parents during the middle of class. So, I don't know. I could wait until the class is dismissed to make a quick call with the student there, but I feel like the consequence should be more immediate than that. It might not have the same effect as doing it while the class is present. It definitely would be nicer in a way so I don't have to wait until my prep period, my lunch or until after school to make parent phone calls.
I teach mostly freshmen and sophomores. Calling parents during class might be more effective with them than with juniors and seniors because they view themselves as more mature (although some of them don't act that way) and don't like it when mom and dad are involved. They would feel like they were being treated as children. And I know, at least, for seniors, they are close to eighteen and some don't pay much attention to what their parents say. Some of them have a fallout with their parents and go live with friends, etc. I know that happened with one of my seniors in Spanish II this year when he had a fight with his mom over something.
Anyhow....
On 5/20/11, Mae in Texas wrote: > You will have to tell me if you think this tactic will work in > high school, but for me, if a kid gets out of control and > becomes a true disturbance, I will put them on the phone to > their parents -right then, right there. Mae
by Daniel Hanson
May 21, 2011
I teach at a public high school in California.)
With regard to student swearing, I hear a LOT of it at my school. Out in the hallways everyday as I walk back and forth from the back of campus (where my classroom portable is) to the front of the school (where the office and the staff lounge are) and I hear it in my classroom as well.
...See MoreI teach at a public high school in California.)
With regard to student swearing, I hear a LOT of it at my school. Out in the hallways everyday as I walk back and forth from the back of campus (where my classroom portable is) to the front of the school (where the office and the staff lounge are) and I hear it in my classroom as well.
Our student handbook says that students may be suspended or expelled for habitual profanity or vulgarity. If we write a referral to the office for the use of profanity, obscenity, or vulgarity among students, the student is assigned Saturday School. After the second time, the student starts getting suspended. If the referral says the profanity was directed toward the teacher, the student automatically gets suspended.
At my school there was one dean that if I wrote a referral for profanity, the student automatically got suspended on the first offense. I thought that was a little too much. So, I decided to pick my own battles. Some teachers issue a verbal warning for the first time and then write the student up if he or she continues to swear. As for me, lately, I've just been giving verbal warnings about it because I don't want to write referrals for it. I could probably easily write 3 or more referrals per class period for each time I heard a student swear in class. However, the thing is: I personally don't like to hear swearing...period.
So, do you think I should be consistent next year and just start writing referrals every time I hear a student swear in class?
On 5/21/11, Bulldog says NO!...more inside wrote: > First of all, "shut up" is polite where I came from (L.A.) ha-ha > Rude was "shut the *&%%$ up". > Second, cursing at students is not acceptable by ANY adult > within the school system. This includes sports coaches (where I > here it the most). I will admit I have said the word He'll > (less the apostrophe) when refering to places, but to just out > and out curse is inappropriate. I had a group of students one > year that were very foul-mouthed. I instituted a cuss jar. > Everytime a student cussed, s/he had to put his/her name in the > jar. At the end of the semester, there were only 2 of 21 > students without their names in the jar. Those students were > given a gift card for $25 for a restaurant of their choice. the > money came from our Honor Society. The other kids in the class > complained how it wasn't fair, but when I explained that part > of "honor" was self-control. The next year I had several of the > same students for their 12th grade Government class. Amazingly, > they asked if I was going to do the cuss jar again. I said yes > and the class had 10 of 18 that got gift cards. > > Bulldog!
by Daniel Hanson
Jun 6, 2011
The more I teach, the more I feel like in public education teachers have less and less rights. As teachers, we should give, but also receive respect from the students we serve. I was truly saddened by this story and could relate with the teacher in many ways (school districts automatically siding with students over their own employees, etc.).
by Elizabeth
Jun 17, 2011
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The other posters had better advice. jmo
On 3/28/11, Sara wrote:
> With some kids even kids this young I've asked, "Does this > work for you, John? Is it working for you? Does thi...See More