Once we had a student come in from out of state from what he said was a tough school. The school had armed guards in the halls and needed them, we found out later for sure, so he was not exaggerating.
In the 8th grade English class taught by a fabulous, no nonsense veteran teacher, that first day, he tried to be cool and misbehave in class. She would just LOOK at him, realizing that "we had not raised him" and this was his first day in a different school environment.
After class, the boys in the class took him aside and explained to him that students did not act as he had done. They also advised him not to mess with(misbehave and be disrespectful with) that English teacher, who had a well- earned reputation for no nonsense. They also explained it would be to his advantage not to mess with ANY teachers at the school.
This new kid got with the program and became an achieving, well-behaved student. Our kids usually had the new students up to speed by the second day.
Our kids were the ones who usually let newcomers know what was acceptable and unacceptable at the school. Peer pressure can be a good thing.
I will never forget the day, 4 football players "escorted" a new student into the office and told the principal, "He spit on OUR carpet!". The whole school was carpeted and kept nice, and the students took pride in it. The school, parents and community provided nice things that most of the other schools in the county did not have.
Once a younger student was pulling blooms from the flower beds that our kids willingly maintained at their free period. A student told the kid, "Do NOT do that again. I planted that azalea." Word got around the lower grades not to pull blooms and the older student did not touch the flower puller. I saw it all.
There was a rule in our school that if a student was disruptive s/he was put just outside the classroom facing the teacher's desk with his/her desk and all materials. The door was left open so the student would not really miss any class time.
This was done quickly, quietly and efficiently with minimum disruption to the class in session.
The rule also was that if the principal saw anyone sitting in the hall, he asked no questions and efficiently took care of the situation. Sometimes, the principal came down the halls and sometimes he didn't, but the kid in the hall had a long period of time to "wonder" and worry. One class in the hall was usually enough for most students.
I loved teaching in this school because it was a family atmosphere and a culture conducive for learning.
It had the reputation for being the best school in the county. Lots of parents brought their kids to our school because of its reputation. The school had a tradition for achievement and had been on the same sight for a century. No one wanted to disrespect this tradition. Most of the new hires were former students.
We were very fortunate, I know, that we had the support of families and the community.
I realize that I would not have functioned well in a situation where disrespect for authority was the norm. I would not have had a 30 year teaching career in a less organized, well-run school situation.
On 6/29/11, judy5ca wrote: > Vet, I can't get over your plan and how wonderful your school > must have been. What a culture of responsibility! > > But I didn't understand the part about the principal. I don't > understand how he walked down the hall and efficiently took > care of the situation without asking questions. Did he speak > to the student? I'm confused. > > Thanks, > Judy > > > > On 6/04/11, VET wrote: >> We were fortunate that disrespectful students were a rarity. >> Ah! The good old days! >> >> Once we had a student come in from out of state from what >> he said was a tough school. The school had armed guards in >> the halls and needed them, we found out later for sure, so >> he was not exaggerating. >> >> In the 8th grade English class taught by a fabulous, no >> nonsense veteran teacher, that first day, he tried to be >> cool and misbehave in class. She would just LOOK at him, >> realizing that "we had not raised him" and this was his >> first day in a different school environment. >> >> After class, the boys in the class took him aside and >> explained to him that students did not act as he had done. >> They also advised him not to mess with(misbehave and be >> disrespectful with) that English teacher, who had a well- >> earned reputation for no nonsense. They also explained it >> would be to his advantage not to mess with ANY teachers at >> the school. >> >> This new kid got with the program and became an achieving, >> well-behaved student. Our kids usually had the new students >> up to speed by the second day. >> >> Our kids were the ones who usually let newcomers know what >> was acceptable and unacceptable at the school. Peer >> pressure can be a good thing. >> >> I will never forget the day, 4 football players "escorted" a >> new student into the office and told the principal, "He spit >> on OUR carpet!". The whole school was carpeted and kept >> nice, and the students took pride in it. The school, >> parents and community provided nice things that most of the >> other schools in the county did not have. >> >> Once a younger student was pulling blooms from the flower >> beds that our kids willingly maintained at their free >> period. A student told the kid, "Do NOT do that again. I >> planted that azalea." Word got around the lower grades not >> to pull blooms and the older student did not touch the >> flower puller. I saw it all. >> >> There was a rule in our school that if a student was >> disruptive s/he was put just outside the classroom facing >> the teacher's desk with his/her desk and all materials. The >> door was left open so the student would not really miss any >> class time. >> >> This was done quickly, quietly and efficiently with minimum >> disruption to the class in session. >> >> The rule also was that if the principal saw anyone sitting >> in the hall, he asked no questions and efficiently took care >> of the situation. Sometimes, the principal came down the >> halls and sometimes he didn't, but the kid in the hall had a >> long period of time to "wonder" and worry. One class in the >> hall was usually enough for most students. >> >> I loved teaching in this school because it was a family >> atmosphere and a culture conducive for learning. >> >> It had the reputation for being the best school in the >> county. Lots of parents brought their kids to our school >> because of its reputation. The school had a tradition for >> achievement and had been on the same sight for a century. >> No one wanted to disrespect this tradition. Most of the new >> hires were former students. >> >> We were very fortunate, I know, that we had the support of >> families and the community. >> >> I realize that I would not have functioned well in a >> situation where disrespect for authority was the norm. I >> would not have had a 30 year teaching career in a less >> organized, well-run school situation.
Almost impossible to find families this wonderful. nfmOn 6/04/11, VET wrote: > We were fortunate that disrespectful students were a rarity. > Ah! The good old days! > > Once we had a student come in from out of state from what > he said was a tough school. The school had armed guards in > the halls and needed them, we found out later for sure, so > he was not exaggerating. > &g...See MoreOn 6/04/11, VET wrote: > We were fortunate that disrespectful students were a rarity. > Ah! The good old days! > > Once we had a student come in from out of state from what > he said was a tough school. The school had armed guards in > the halls and needed them, we found out later for sure, so > he was not exaggerating. > > In the 8th grade English class taught by a fabulous, no > nonsense veteran teacher, that first day, he tried to be > cool and misbehave in class. She would just LOOK at him, > realizing that "we had not raised him" and this was his > first day in a different school environment. > > After class, the boys in the class took him aside and > explained to him that students did not act as he had done. > They also advised him not to mess with(misbehave and be > disrespectful with) that English teacher, who had a well- > earned reputation for no nonsense. They also explained it > would be to his advantage not to mess with ANY teachers at > the school. > > This new kid got with the program and became an achieving, > well-behaved student. Our kids usually had the new students > up to speed by the second day. > > Our kids were the ones who usually let newcomers know what > was acceptable and unacceptable at the school. Peer > pressure can be a good thing. > > I will never forget the day, 4 football players "escorted" a > new student into the office and told the principal, "He spit > on OUR carpet!". The whole school was carpeted and kept > nice, and the students took pride in it. The school, > parents and community provided nice things that most of the > other schools in the county did not have. > > Once a younger student was pulling blooms from the flower > beds that our kids willingly maintained at their free > period. A student told the kid, "Do NOT do that again. I > planted that azalea." Word got around the lower grades not > to pull blooms and the older student did not touch the > flower puller. I saw it all. > > There was a rule in our school that if a student was > disruptive s/he was put just outside the classroom facing > the teacher's desk with his/her desk and all materials. The > door was left open so the student would not really miss any > class time. > > This was done quickly, quietly and efficiently with minimum > disruption to the class in session. > > The rule also was that if the principal saw anyone sitting > in the hall, he asked no questions and efficiently took care > of the situation. Sometimes, the principal came down the > halls and sometimes he didn't, but the kid in the hall had a > long period of time to "wonder" and worry. One class in the > hall was usually enough for most students. > > I loved teaching in this school because it was a family > atmosphere and a culture conducive for learning. > > It had the reputation for being the best school in the > county. Lots of parents brought their kids to our school > because of its reputation. The school had a tradition for > achievement and had been on the same sight for a century. > No one wanted to disrespect this tradition. Most of the new > hires were former students. > > We were very fortunate, I know, that we had the support of > families and the community. > > I realize that I would not have functioned well in a > situation where disrespect for authority was the norm. I > would not have had a 30 year teaching career in a less > organized, well-run school situation.
spending 6 years in a classroom for emotionally disturbed children years ago, did not prepare me for the child i had this year and will have again next year. she turned 4 in feb. she was premature, fetal alcohol syndrome, mild CP, and, as her parents are always quick to remind me, has an underdeveloped frontal lobe which cause her inability to make decisions and her impulsivity. Those things I can deal with, but it is the constant crying/whining all day long which disrupts the teaching environment that i was not able to get a handle on this year. for a little while she was improving...then mom lost her job and went back to school and those behaviors started climbing again, then this spring dad returned home from his tour in Iraq and the behaviors increased ten-fold. the last two and a half months of school were the longest of my 32 year career. Anyone else out there have some suggestions on things i can try this coming year? time outs didn't help as she had to have someone sitting right next to her to keep her sort of still. i tried everything in my vast experience. something might work one time, but never again. i feel sorry for her, because i believe that she is also very hyper although that has never been mentioned. she was on medication, but i never could tell for sure if she had actually had the med before arriving at school and only got it a few times at lunch. they never got the required paperwork from the dr to administer it at school. thanks.
I am an instructional assistant. I have never been offered any professional development classroom management even though I substitute and have three different classroom groups of students daily. Today I substituted in a sped class and repeatedly asked a student to be quiet, to stop chattering while others spoke and getting up at the wrong time. She...See MoreI am an instructional assistant. I have never been offered any professional development classroom management even though I substitute and have three different classroom groups of students daily. Today I substituted in a sped class and repeatedly asked a student to be quiet, to stop chattering while others spoke and getting up at the wrong time. She even talked over the collab teacher and her fellow classmates. During last period there was a fire drill and I was in the process of calling the ofice to locate a missing student when it occurred. We exited the building and she continued talking as I as a teacher for a walkie talkie to locate the missing student. I asked her twice to be quiet expressing to her "it's a fire drill. She keep talking and I told her "Please shut up." Nothing was said by her, but when we returned inside a boy begain discussing what I said to her I wasn't allowed to say and mentioned I could be fired. I informed him it was not his concern and he told me that a teacher had told his brother to shut up and "she almost got fired". In the meantime instead of staying on task, the student I told "shut up" to looked it up in the dictionary and informed me it was a cuss, the definition uses the words cease and cause in it's definition. I told her the definition of the words and then read the definition of "shut up" to the class. And stated "This discussion is over. If this goes further what is my recourse? Need advice.
NatalieIt can be difficult to manage a classroom of students if you don't know what you are doing. Something that I find is always effective is using a mixture of negative AND positive reinforcement. If they're younger kids, things like a points system and sticker charts work well. For example, break kids up into "color" teams, such as blue, green, orange...See MoreIt can be difficult to manage a classroom of students if you don't know what you are doing. Something that I find is always effective is using a mixture of negative AND positive reinforcement. If they're younger kids, things like a points system and sticker charts work well. For example, break kids up into "color" teams, such as blue, green, orange, etc. Every time you notice a positive behavior they get a point for their team, such as sitting quietly during a video, raising their hands and not calling out, paying attention when a classmate is talking, etc. The more undesirable behavior you notice, the more positive reinforcement you need to give to the children who are behaving well. (ex: the blue is doing a great job of sitting quietly and paying attention so I'm going to give their team a point! and then the green team realizes they need to shape up if they want points..) Just remember you can never take points away! You can only add negative reinforcement. For negative behavior, writing names on the board works surprisingly well, and adding checks for continued behavior. The trick here is to allow easy opportunities for redemption. For example, "I noticed you raised your hand and didn't call out like last time, so I am going to erase one of your checks. Good job." EVERY TIME i've used this on a so-called problem child, it works to modify their negative behavior because they appreciate that you caught them doing something well, even if it's only a small step.
Most importantly, you have to address EVERY undesired behavior, EVERY time. You have to pay attention and don't let anything slide or they won't take you seriously. The more unruly a class is, the more points you need to be giving out. It may be time consuming and you might feel like you spend more time on crowd control then content, but the content can't be learned unless they are paying attention.
Remember to explain the rules of the points game before the lesson and tell them how to get points and how they won't get points (calling out, being rude, etc). Then, the team with the most points at the end of the day gets a small reward - stickers, pencils, toys, whatever. I've even done where the team with most points gets to line up for lunch or dismissal first. If they are really restless, something I like to do is have a "brain break" - a simon says type game to let them stretch, jump around, move and let out some of that energy because you really can't accomplish much if they won't pay attention.
As for the fire drill situation, you shouldn't have lost your temper. Even if it's that serious, you have to remember that their negative behaviors are not directed at you, even if they make it seem that way - so don't take it personally. They will respect you more if they see you keep your cool even in stressful situations. Sometimes they are just frustrated, maybe because they don't understand the content - which may have to do with their special needs - or because of a home situation, or just something else OUT OF THEIR CONTROL. If you allow them to redeem themselves easily, they'll realize that they can do well in school. The most difficult students need the most guidance, support, and PRAISE even if it's for something small.
This is all very basic but hopefully it will help you until you are able to be trained appropriately.
a small reward - stickers, pencils, toys, whatever. I've even done where > the team with most points gets to line up for lunch or dismissal first. If > they are really restless, something I like to do is have a "brain break" - > a simon says type game to let them stretch, jump around, move and let out > some of that energy because you really can't accomplish much if they won't > pay attention. > > As for the fire drill situation, you shouldn't have lost your temper. Even > if it's that serious, you have to remember that their negative behaviors > are not directed at you, even if they make it seem that way - so don't take > it personally. They will respect you more if they see you keep your cool > even in stressful situations. Sometimes they are just frustrated, maybe > because they don't understand the content - which may have to do with their > special needs - or because of a home situation, or just something else OUT > OF THEIR CONTROL. If you allow them to redeem themselves easily, they'll > realize that they can do well in school. The most difficult students need > the most guidance, support, and PRAISE even if it's for something small. > > This is all very basic but hopefully it will help you until you are able to > be trained appropriately.
HELP! I have a child coming into my Kindergarten classroom next year with oppositional defiant disorder. I'm already having nightmares and missing my sweet, sweet class that just walked out the door. I'm particularly concerned about starting off the year right.
On 10/26/11, This one's been effective too wrote: > On 10/26/11, Marie wrote: >> On 6/29/11, AM wrote: >>> Thankfully Dr's make that determination not people with their >>> opinions and I no I don't think ODD and odd kids is ironic- I finding >>> it insulting to children who suffer. >>> >>> On 6/27/11, Does anyone else think it's ironic? wrote: >>>> ODD kids? Odd kids? LOL >>>> IMHO only about 5% of kids who allegedly have ODD really do. The >>>> rest are just spoiled. >> >> I agree most are spoiled lol....But unfortunetly there are many that do >> have the disorder. It hard to know how to handle their behavior, >> educators must daily try new methods. One day a student was going to >> walk out of the room and I know for a fact he has ODD, when I told the >> student if you walk out I am not going to be your friend. The student >> laughed and said he was sorry and came back nd sat down. This may not >> work all the time, but you must try things you just cant find in a book. > > > "It's your grade. I have my diploma." Then go back to teaching the kids > who WANT to be there, and if he walks out, call the office and report an > angry student on the loose.
Hi everyone, I keep thinking of this situation that happened before Winter break with a 4th grade girl. I am a sped teacher at this school and deal everyday with this child who is identified as learning disabled. Most of her issues appear to be related to ADD and behavior issues. Before winter break she was not getting her classwork, homework or an...See MoreHi everyone, I keep thinking of this situation that happened before Winter break with a 4th grade girl. I am a sped teacher at this school and deal everyday with this child who is identified as learning disabled. Most of her issues appear to be related to ADD and behavior issues. Before winter break she was not getting her classwork, homework or anything done. Her classroom teacher had informed her that she could not attend the holiday party until writing was complete, math homework was done,o s etc. She did about half of this work with me and then cried and wailed for approximately 3 hr. After 1 hr I needed to see other children so I moved her to the office in the school where office staff supervised her and ignored her. THey moved her to the nurses office where they could still supervise her but she continued crying, throwing a temper tantrum, etc. None of us could get her to do any more work, stop crying, etc. The child was well aware of the consequences for not getting her work done on a weekly basis....she loses the special Friday afternoon activities every week. I plan to help her with organization skills beginning next week since she loses everything (ie. homework, books, etc.). Our prin called her mother onthis particular day and we sent the child home due to her constant wailing, temper tantrums, etc. The child also sess the school psych and an outside therapist. Any thoughts? How would you get a child (a 4th grader) to stop crying??!! I walked away after 1 hr of her not doing her work. We decided as a staff to ignore her....I am considering a behavior contract next week when we return to school. There is almost no support from the Mother with this child. She appears frustrated and unable to manage the child herself.
Yeah, I get why she might finally hit the end of her rope and cry for 3 hours. Imagine hitting that end and then being ignored.
Your behavior contract will do no good. Listen to wasub.
On 1/01/12, wasub wrote: > If a child never earns the reinforcing activity for work > completion, then the child will stop working. She fails every > week, so she very likely felt frustrated and defeated. > Instead of focusing on consequences and behavior plans, please > take a closer look at the work this student is being asked to > complete. Chances are very high that the work is beyond her > ability to do independently - curriculum that is not at a > student's level and ability will often result in an increase > in behaviors. Adjust the curriculum so the child can complete > it and earn the special weekly activities 90% of the time. > wasub > > On 12/30/11, Kat_Kongh wrote: > The child was well aware of the consequences >> for not getting her work done on a weekly basis....she >> loses the special Friday afternoon activities every week.
AmberOn 12/30/11, Kat_Kongh wrote: > Hi everyone, > I keep thinking of this situation that happened before > Winter break with a 4th grade girl. I am a sped teacher at > this school and deal everyday with this child who is > identified as learning disabled. Most of her issues appear > to be related to ADD and behavior issues. Before wi...See MoreOn 12/30/11, Kat_Kongh wrote: > Hi everyone, > I keep thinking of this situation that happened before > Winter break with a 4th grade girl. I am a sped teacher at > this school and deal everyday with this child who is > identified as learning disabled. Most of her issues appear > to be related to ADD and behavior issues. Before winter > break she was not getting her classwork, homework or > anything done. Her classroom teacher had informed her that > she could not attend the holiday party until writing was > complete, math homework was done,o s etc. She did about > half of this work with me and then cried and wailed for > approximately 3 hr. After 1 hr I needed to see other > children so I moved her to the office in the school where > office staff supervised her and ignored her. THey moved > her to the nurses office where they could still supervise > her but she continued crying, throwing a temper tantrum, > etc. None of us could get her to do any more work, stop > crying, etc. The child was well aware of the consequences > for not getting her work done on a weekly basis....she > loses the special Friday afternoon activities every week. > I plan to help her with organization skills beginning next > week since she loses everything (ie. homework, books, > etc.). Our prin called her mother onthis particular day > and we sent the child home due to her constant wailing, > temper tantrums, etc. The child also sess the school psych > and an outside therapist. Any thoughts? How would you get > a child (a 4th grader) to stop crying??!! I walked away > after 1 hr of her not doing her work. We decided as a > staff to ignore her....I am considering a behavior contract > next week when we return to school. There is almost no > support from the Mother with this child. She appears > frustrated and unable to manage the child herself.
Hi, I am currently in the Special Education program at my college and i receently read an article about KidTools. It is a website that helsp behavior students gain more control of htier behavior and gives that more independence. THe student gets visual ques when misbehaving and can go on the website and monitor her progress. Maybe this will help her gain more control of her behaviors.
On 6/29/11, judy5ca wrote: > Vet, I can't get over your plan and how wonderful your school > must have been. What a culture of responsibility! > > But I didn't understand the part about the principal. I don't > understand how he walked down the hall and efficiently took > care of the situati...See More