Discipline log as a tool to make the students discipline

by Konny Rostiana

Apr 30, 2013

I am the counselor in one of school in Indonesia. I come with the rules that I didn't like because the category of the rule is unclear but I need to follow up.Discipline Log that we have is the note of students' failure to follow the rules. The things that I am thinking is it is like just negative reinforcement without positive one. Can you imagine as a students sometimes got 10 strikes just because he or she make a noisy in the class? In the rules, every student who has got 10 minor strikes he/she will get detention for several hours after school, so it means she/he can't go home together with his friends. One of the rules said that if he/she do bullying,she/he will get major strikes (The value is as same as 10 minor strikes), bullying has many kinds, just yelled at somebody, we can call it's a bullying. We know that as a child sometime they just played and call his/her friends, so can you imagine how many students will get detention in one day if we consistently do the policy? It doe...See More

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Tex On 4/30/13, Konny Rostiana wrote: > Why we keep staying their minors > for a whole school year, it means that the students got the > title in their discipline log as the trouble maker in the > class, especially the one who got the most strikes.... it's > not balance with the positive reinforcement

My approach is to ensure st...See More

May 17, 2013

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John The student needs a visual reminder of the rewards and consequences too. Plus they need to be able to reach the reward goal line. If they don;t think they can, they will never try too.

On 5/17/13, Tex wrote: > On 4/30/13, Konny Rostiana wrote: >> Why we keep staying their minors >> for a whole school year, it means that the ...See More

May 25, 2013

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Tex On 5/25/13, John wrote: > The student needs a visual reminder of the rewards and > consequences too. Plus they need to be able to reach the reward > goal line. If they don;t think they can, they will never try too. > > On 5/17/13, Tex wrote: >> On 4/30/13, Konny Rostiana wrote: >>> Why we keep staying their minors >...See More

May 29, 2013

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Sara On 4/30/13, Konny Rostiana wrote:

We have this same discussion in the States - how to come up with a working balance of negative reinforcement and positive reinforcement.

The question is - does your discipline system work? The point of discipline to me is that children will demonstrate better - and better - behavior. If that doe...See MoreOn 4/30/13, Konny Rostiana wrote:

We have this same discussion in the States - how to come up with a working balance of negative reinforcement and positive reinforcement.

The question is - does your discipline system work? The point of discipline to me is that children will demonstrate better - and better - behavior. If that doesn't happen, then the discipline system is not working.

Who gets these 10 strikes? Is the same students getting them over and over again? If it is, then the discipline system is not working.

If after getting strikes and detention, the students changes his way and behaves, then the discipline system is working.

> I am the counselor in one of school in Indonesia. I come > with the rules that I didn't like because the category of > the rule is unclear but I need to follow up.Discipline Log > that we have is the note of students' failure to follow the > rules. The things that I am thinking is it is like just > negative reinforcement without positive one. Can you imagine > as a students sometimes got 10 strikes just because he or > she make a noisy in the class? In the rules, every student > who has got 10 minor strikes he/she will get detention for > several hours after school, so it means she/he can't go home > together with his friends. One of the rules said that if > he/she do bullying,she/he will get major strikes (The value > is as same as 10 minor strikes), bullying has many kinds, > just yelled at somebody, we can call it's a bullying. We > know that as a child sometime they just played and call > his/her friends, so can you imagine how many students will > get detention in one day if we consistently do the policy? > It doesn't mean I am not agree with the consequences of > breaking the rules, but the things that make me disagree is > do all the teachers understand the procedure to give the > students minor strikes? Why we keep staying their minors > for a whole school year, it means that the students got the > title in their discipline log as the trouble maker in the > class, especially the one who got the most strikes.... it's > not balance with the positive reinforcement, however may be > this child has good behavior but the teacher doesn't put as > a reward. so what do you think for this case? would you like > to share to me teachers??

May 29, 2013

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5th teach I'd suggest that the discipline system is not working for "those same" students, perhaps you need to fine tune it for those students....it may be working well for the remainder of the class.

I'm in agreement with Tex...focus on personal relations and reward positive behaviors. Keep rules and expectations simple, clear and concise. I think...See More

Jun 2, 2013

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