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Smart student still using inventive spelling

by Linda

Mar 16, 2013

I have a very smart student who still uses inventive spelling-with quite a few errors showing up on every paper he writes.

We have worked our way through the "no excuse word" lists and he does well on spelling tests, but for so many other simple words, he just spells them the way they sound to a 1st or 2nd grade student.

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Sara On 3/16/13, Linda wrote: > I have a very smart student who still uses inventive > spelling-with quite a few errors showing up on every paper > he writes. > > We have worked our way through the "no excuse word" lists > and he does well on spelling tests, but for so many other > simple words, he just spells them the way they soun...See More

Mar 18, 2013

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AR Star test

by teach4

Mar 27, 2013

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with the AR Star reading test? If you have used it how did you like it? Did you find the results valid?

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Earth Day!There's still time to make it effective,meaningful

by Teachers.Net Gazette

Apr 21, 2013

Earth Day Lessons, Printables & Activities! Click below, and be sure to share the link with colleagues.

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Fourth Grade Pen-Pals

by Candy

Apr 23, 2013

I am a 4th grade writing teacher in a small Texas school. Our state testing period has passed. We are now able to do some enjoyable writing. I thought it would be fun to find a school that had approximately the same number of students that I have (44) and trade names for the students to write and receive letters back and forth. If you are intereste...See More

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4 Common Ways to Manage Behavor

by Teachers.Net Gazette

Apr 25, 2013

Students learn more effectively when you get classroom management right; kids benefit, and teaching won’t wear you out. There are four different models used by teachers.

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Epi-Pen storage without a school nurse

by Laurie

Apr 26, 2013

We are a very small school without a school nurse. My concern is with Epipen storage. What is your protocal? Are they kept in each classroom or the office? What is the best way to make sure everyone knows exactly where they are if you are not there? Do you take them on fieldtrips? What if the lunchroom and gym are quite a ways away from the classro...See More

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ccss help w/non-fiction

by roundstanley

Apr 30, 2013

I just read this article and thought it would be helpful at 3rd, 4th, and 5th.

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Multiplication tables

by Kadi

May 3, 2013

Any suggestions or inexpensive resources for making sure all my 4th graders next year know their times tables (with automaticity) by the end of the first trimester? It's become very clear to me that without that early enough in the year, students cannot pass 4th grade math. (And parents become horrified at how their children's math grades drop in 4...See More

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KAREN On 6/10/13, PedagoNet wrote:

> Try the Multiplication Fortune Teller

My students have picked up the pace by using Mathletics, both at school and on home computers. They can log on and play against each other for the fastest time!~

Jun 19, 2013

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Jun 19, 2013

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What do your students do for Mother's Day?

by Kate

May 5, 2013

New to forth this year from 1st! What can my kids create that mom will love?

Thanks, Kate

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John We made flowers out of tissue paper one time and then they took marker and colored them with simple lines and dots. It went over well but I don't know how many made it home in one piece.

On 5/05/13, Kate wrote: > New to forth this year from 1st! What can my kids create > that mom will love? > > Thanks, Kate

May 13, 2013

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Doug On 5/13/13, John wrote: > We made flowers out of tissue paper one time and then they took > marker and colored them with simple lines and dots. It went > over well but I don't know how many made it home in one piece. > > On 5/05/13, Kate wrote: >> New to forth this year from 1st! What can my kids create >> that mom will l...See More

May 17, 2013

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Pushy kid

by anon for now

May 9, 2013

ushy overbearing parents produce pushy kids!! I have a kid in my class that is always one step or several steps ahead of me---it's very irritating!!!

I think it makes me appear to the other kids that I am not organized or have a handle on what is going on. He comments often "This is boring! We already learned this."

Today, I pla...See More

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Vet Teacher On 5/09/13, anon for now wrote: > Pushy overbearing parents produce pushy kids!! I have a > kid in my class that is always one step or several steps > ahead of me---it's very irritating!!! > > I think it makes me appear to the other kids that I am not > organized or have a handle on what is going on. He > comments often "This i...See MoreOn 5/09/13, anon for now wrote: > Pushy overbearing parents produce pushy kids!! I have a > kid in my class that is always one step or several steps > ahead of me---it's very irritating!!! > > I think it makes me appear to the other kids that I am not > organized or have a handle on what is going on. He > comments often "This is boring! We already learned this."

I've never thought that 4th graders really take very seriously a pushy 4th grader - they tend to think little of them, not more. They tend to think they are indeed pushy and 4th graders don't find pushy an attractive or enviable quality.

I treat such things with humor - "I can't do Everything at once, John, though I try, try, try. I promise you I will be filling in all the details and if your dear mother needs to know now, she also knows she can call me or e-mail me - I check my emails every day usually twice!"

And move on.

I make mistakes in math and other things - we are not supposed to be perfect and it makes us look silly and insecure to pretend we are. I don't ask perfection of my students so I'm safe when I'm not perfect in my own ways including math.

"Thank you John for pointing out that I calculated that wrong. But John, even teachers can feel bad when they make a mistake - your voice almost has a note of happy celebration in it when you see me make a mistake in math. Do I celebrate when my students are wrong about something? I hope Not. We're here to help not to be happy when something goes wrong - thank you for your help - once again." (big warm smile)

Charm goes a long way and it beats pushy every time. He's in 4th grade - he's still learning how to be a gentleman and that's why he's in school. If he knew how to move gracefully through every moment, we'd have him out in the work force or teaching charm school.

He actually sounds quite mild to some I've had. I had a student once who insisted that the French built the Rocky Mountains and that the Applachians weren't called that and one insisted that if she put a word in a research report that was on a topic she didn't believe in - like witches - that she was supposed to uppercase Witches as a clue to the reader.

None of those students could I dissuade from those ideas - at least at the time. Build strong relationships with your students and they won't form their beliefs about you based on the socially weakest student in your room. > > Today, I planned on checking on some details of a field > trip we are going to take---he said "why haven't you told > us when we are getting back from the field trip? My mom > wants to know". > > If there is ever a mistake on my part, say a math problem > answer, he's always the first one to call attention to it. > > Any advice or helpful suggestions are appreciated.

May 19, 2013

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mbteacher This is common in many classrooms. I have observed this same situation in classrooms before and have heard the same comments from colleagues. This child may need more of a challenge in your classroom. Often times, students who claim to be board and that they have already learned the material, are not receiving a challenge in the class. The work you...See More

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