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Tim Perez and his alternative fact

by Tim Finnegan

Apr 1, 2017

I think Tom Perez might be losing it. The DNC chairperson said about Trump, "You didn't win this election."

I know reality is troubling and difficult to accept for those on the left, but Mr. Perez does not get to invent his own facts. I am surprised the media hasn't been shaming him for his lies.

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T.E.C. - Iowa Well, I wish all conservatives and others would admit, as Tim says, "Republicans (have been) for 6 years of obstructing Obama and his agenda."

Beyond that, I am in favor of an up or down vote. However, if the rules say that a filibuster is legal, and the democrats want to use it, so be it! A little like Trump winning by the rules...See More

Apr 2, 2017

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Tim Finnegan On 4/02/17, Bob R/CA wrote:
> On 4/02/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: But when you complain
> about the head of the DNC making up facts (he didn't) it
> demonstrates your complete hypocrisy, because you support
> the PRESIDENT who quite plainly lives in an alternative
> universe.
>
> Fraud.

Oh, Bob. Yo...See More

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45 is actually helping...

by Chalky

Apr 2, 2017

immigrants to learn English.

:::quote:::

...Trump’s language—all the middle-school-level vocabulary and grammar of it—is actually serving a greater purpose. It’s helping early English learners grasp this country’s complicated language.

Though his speeches may be hard to translate into foreign languages, listeni...See More immigrants to learn English.

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...Trump’s language—all the middle-school-level vocabulary and grammar of it—is actually serving a greater purpose. It’s helping early English learners grasp this country’s complicated language.

Though his speeches may be hard to translate into foreign languages, listening to Trump and reading his subtitles can actually be a boon for people learning English as a second language, due to his low-level vocabulary, constant word repetition, and discussion of basic concepts.

--snip-- “It’s really easy for me to imitate Trump’s speech,” he says, noting some of his favorite phrases: “make America great again,” “so sad,” and “so huge.” And linguists have a pretty good idea why that’s so. “What learners are finding helpful is Trump’s relatively slower speech and his use of repetition,” says Derek Denis, a linguist at the University of Toronto Mississauga. “These are both beneficial for learners of English because they provide more time to parse the speech stream, helping with comprehension.” Trump’s relatively small vocabulary helps, too, says Denis. “The fewer unfamiliar words, the better the comprehension.”

--snip-- And though early learners can find comprehension in Trump’s repetitive and simple language, advanced learners and native speakers are often confused by his rambling, tangential style, another reason linguists say Trump might not be the best learning tool.

“When speaking off the cuff, he seems to lack cohesion, jumping or circling from one topic to the next and often mistakenly assuming a shared context with his audience,” says Georgetown University Department of Linguistics linguist Luke Plonsky. “This lack of a linear progression of ideas would present a challenge for anyone, not just those individuals listening in their second language.”

Trump’s mistaken shared context means he has a tendency to assume his listeners understand what he’s saying exactly as he means it, and he then makes gestures or provides visual cues to enforce that meaning. But for learners at all stages, that can be confusing—like someone shaking their head no as they’re saying “yes.”

The limitations of Trump’s speech have a somewhat hidden benefit: They can show non-native English speakers just how little fluency they need to make it in America. Henk Wolf, member of the Facebook group Omniglot Fan Club and a native Dutch and Frisian speaker, considers that an advantage. “It helps me get used to a register of American English I do not encounter all that often,” he says. “Use and knowledge of formal language is apparently not a necessity to reach the top of the political pyramid in the New World.”

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Chalky Link to the article quoted is below.

On 4/02/17, Chalky wrote: > > immigrants to learn English. > > :::quote::: > > ...Trump's language--all the middle-school-level vocabulary and > grammar of it--is actually serving a greater purpose. It's helping > early English learners grasp this country's complicated > lang...See More

Apr 2, 2017

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Now, this is funny

by EasTexSteve

Apr 2, 2017

Democrat representative Adam Schiff said:

“I don’t think we can say anything definitively at this point,” Schiff said. “We are still at the very early stages of the investigation.."

LOL! By all indications, Obama and the democrats were "investigating" Trump as early as 2015.

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EasTexSteve On 4/02/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > ETS needs to understand that our government is not doing > surveillance on the president. They are doing surveillance on > "everyone." If the truth were known, I would bet our "deep > state" is doing surveillance on every member of the government > from the president to the lowli...See More

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T.E.C. - Iowa Yes, it was for political gain - for the rich! But do not, for a second, assume the gain is about democrats vs. republicans. It was all about the oligarchs wanting Hillary as opposed to Pres. Trump. Normally the rich do not care which party is elected. This time around was different because Trump was the only outside in a field of over a dozen repu...See More

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Witch Hunt?

by Chalky

Mar 31, 2017

@realDonaldTrump The media is really on a witch-hunt against me. False reporting, and plenty of it - but we will prevail!

Seems as if lots of witches should be hunted according to this video from the conservative WSJ.

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No Chalky On 4/01/17, Chalky wrote: > On 4/01/17, AW wrote: >> Doesn't the US interfere in the elections of other >> countries? >> >> Israel comes to mind.... > > > Promoting democracy is the reason we interfere in those > elections.

Democracy IS NOT the reason obama interfered in the Israeli election. It was ...See More

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T.E.C. - Iowa It is not Obama interfering with Israel's election. It is Israel interfering with American elections - all of the congressional elections going back decades.

Apr 2, 2017

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Intelligence official who 'unmasked' Trump associates

by is 'very high up,' source says

Mar 31, 2017

The U.S. intelligence official who “unmasked,” or exposed, the names of multiple private citizens affiliated with the Trump team is someone “very well known, very high up, very senior in the intelligence world,” a source told Fox News on Friday.

Intelligence and House sources with direct knowledge of the disclosure of classified n...See More

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Chalky POTUS has access to all this information since he's the POTUS.

He would have been tweeting this 24/7 if he had the goods on someone from the Obama administration.

Ya think?

Apr 1, 2017

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