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All this *winning*...

by Chalky

Mar 23, 2017

...is exhausting.

Republicans are not falling in line.

Governing is hard.

Not like running a business.

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Schuner wants to hold SCOTUS vote hostage

by Tim finnegan

Mar 21, 2017

That's the new plan. No vote on Gorsuch until atrunp is investigated.

I guess he no longer believes that the Senate should do the job it was elected to do and give the people the fully functioning Supreme Court they deserve.

Then again, this is like both parties trying to be obstructionists when they are in the minority. that said...See More

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Lulu On 3/22/17, Chalky wrote: > Hypocrisy reigns once again in the halls of Congress. *surprise* > It's the nature of politicians to do exactly what they condemned > the opposition for doing. > > I think it's fun sometimes to point out the hypocrisy, but decided > long ago to not get my drawers in a bind about it. > > Garland sh...See More

Mar 22, 2017

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Chalky, what about Gorsuch's decision against the freezing truck driver? The one Franken was discussing with him today.

On 3/22/17, Chalky wrote: > Hypocrisy reigns once again in the halls of Congress. *surprise* > It's the nature of politicians to do exactly what they condemned > the opposition for doing. > > I think it's fun sometimes to point out the hypocrisy, but decided > ...See More

Mar 22, 2017

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Russian influence on the 2016 election

by Chalky

Mar 21, 2017

July, 2016 - FBI opens an investigation into Russian interference in the election. This information was NOT made public.

July 24, 2016 - Robby Mook interview in which he states, to much skepticism that Russia was attempting to interfere with our election process:

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/844161608737738 752/pu/pl/f8X6...See More

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Tim finnegan On 3/22/17, Chalky wrote:
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>> Now you can't prove that Russia's hacking, corrupting,
>> and systematic publication of these negative stories
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That is EXACTLY w...See More

Mar 22, 2017

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Cha Cha On 3/21/17, Chalky wrote: > Years from now, when all this shakes out, we'll look back > on this election as pivotal for our democracy.

How so? We have interfered with elections in other countries for decades, so how is it newsworthy that another country attempted to interfere in ours?

TEC posted here last summer an explanati...See MoreOn 3/21/17, Chalky wrote: > Years from now, when all this shakes out, we'll look back > on this election as pivotal for our democracy.

How so? We have interfered with elections in other countries for decades, so how is it newsworthy that another country attempted to interfere in ours?

TEC posted here last summer an explanation of why Putin disliked Hillary and didn't want her to win: that she would go to war against Russia. The left, however, is in denial. Instead, their narrative is that Putin wanted Trump in the WH to serve as Putin's puppet or mouthpiece.

If you catch me with my hand in the cookie jar and you report that to the public and I lose the election, is that loss my fault or yours? The left purports that Hillary's OWN CHOICES did not result in her loss but that the wikileaks that caught her hand in the cookie jar, did. That is denial.

The left believes that the DNC's false claim that chairs were thrown at a Bernie rally and CNN employee Donna Brazile passing CNN debate questions to Hillary's team in advance of the debate was not OWN fault but the fault of wikileaks for revealing to the public how dishonest the DNC was.

What we will remember that is pivotal about democracy is that this was the election in which the media lost the last scrap of reliability and integrity that it had. There literally is not a sentence written or uttered in the mainstream media that is not emotion-stirring and bias - confirmation seeking. I noticed just the other day how professional and neutral Comey spoke about the investigation of Russian interference, in sharp contrast to the way NBC "translated" Comey's words to make it sound like Trump was already guilty. If only Comey could teach journalism!

If collusion with Russia is found, the news reports will be anti-climactic if they are believed at all because leftists/the media have been claiming collusion all along, based on nothing but the fact that Trump said he admired Putin's toughness.

Of course this will stand out as the first time a billionaire "businessman" with no government experience was elected -which is not necessarily a threat to democracy. How deeply entangled in business he is with Russia has yet to be discovered and that may be a threat to democracy. The fact that private businessmen from other countries regularly lobby the U.S. and hire professional lobbyists like Manafort to look after their financial interests is confusing to me. I don't know why we allow it. I guess I was ignorant of the level of this interaction so if it has been going on for a long time, then it is news only to me.

What will stand out in memory about this election is that a candidate made the devastating mistake of attacking voters. It doesn't take a seasoned or brilliant politician to know that you don't label a quarter of the voters as "deplorable and irredeemable". As even some of the leftist pundits admitted, the main reason why Hillary got as many votes as she did was because her opponent was so terrible.

Mar 22, 2017

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What does Maxine Waters know?

by Tim Finnegan

Mar 21, 2017

Maxine Waters tweeted out that we should get ready for impeachment! Is this another Maddow-type claim of having Trump's tax returns? Or does she know something?

The. Again, this is the woman who thinks that Putin invaded Korea. And she has stated that she hopes Trump doesn't even serve a full term (makes McConnells statement seem tame).

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The World Fiddles as a Burning Disaster Looms!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Mar 21, 2017

As Pres. Trump denies climate change, new research says the oceans are warming 13&37; faster than previously thought. If you think the air temperature has increased - making mild winters - remember 90&37; of the heat trapped by the earth goes into the oceans. And important, this is not just the ocean surface

The graph is from the s...See More

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Obama’s IRS gave ‘Satan Club’ creator fast tax-exempt status

by EasTexSteve

Mar 21, 2017

Documents obtained by a government watchdog show that the originator of the “After School Satan Club” received speedy tax-exempt status while conservative groups were stuck in bureaucratic red tape under the Obama administration.

Treasury Department files obtained by Judicial Watch last week show Reason Alliance in Somerville, Mass., w...See More

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Lulu On 3/21/17, EasTexSteve wrote: > Documents obtained by a government watchdog show that the > originator of the

1. The IRS is not allowed to discriminate based on religion, so the fact that this nonprofit was for what you or I consider a ridiculous cause is not material.

2. The conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) stat...See More

Mar 21, 2017

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Trump's abysmal ratings

by Lulu

Mar 16, 2017

According to a new poll, approximately a third of American voters (34 percent) say they support the Republican plan to overhaul health care while a majority (54 percent) disapprove of the new plan.

President Donald Trump’s approval has dropped five points in the last month, according to the poll: 43 percent currently approve of the job h...See More

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Lulu On 3/18/17, Score! wrote: > > As I recall the CBO figured that Obama Care would have 20 million > people signed up by now and of course, their predictions were > wrong.

"So, was the Congressional Budget Office really “way, way off … in every aspect” of how it predicted that Obamacare would work, as the White House c...See More

Mar 18, 2017

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T.E.C. - Iowa The poster "Score" does not get it. Anyone who understands
estimates knows they can be wrong. The question is, once
you do an estimate and the results are something you do
not like, is it okay to "pretend" the estimate does not
exist.

Worse, is it okay to throw out the estimate and in its
place use nothi...See More

Mar 21, 2017

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Trump tweet - no evidence...

by Chalky

Mar 20, 2017

....to support those tweets either within the FBI or the DOJ.

Jeff Sessions weighs in.

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EasTexSteve On 3/20/17, Chalky wrote: > > ....to support those tweets either within the FBI or the DOJ. > > Jeff Sessions weighs in.

I don't think anyone has physically tapped any wires in 20 years. That's not what "wiretap" refers to.

Mar 20, 2017

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