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This is as Serious as it Gets

by EasTexSteve

Mar 9, 2017

What you won't here from the liberal press. Obama and the dems weren't after "Trump Associates" or "a server in Trump Tower." They were after Trump!

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At issue is Obama’s insistence to secure a federal wiretap warrant of Donald J. Trump, the candidate, using the federal court system as ...See More

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All about that three letter word... J-O-B-S

by Tim Finnegan

Mar 8, 2017

How 'bout that jobs report. And that's only created jobs. Who knows how many were also saved?

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Our current economy was predicted in 1943!!!!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Mar 4, 2017

Economist Mark Blyth lead me to the 1943 article by Michael Kalecki titled “Political Aspects of Full Employment.” The article predicts our current economy.

The whole idea is more complex than one post will allow. However, here is the part that tells us about corporations taking over our government.

The author, in 1943, expect...See MoreEconomist Mark Blyth lead me to the 1943 article by Michael Kalecki titled “Political Aspects of Full Employment.” The article predicts our current economy.

The whole idea is more complex than one post will allow. However, here is the part that tells us about corporations taking over our government.

The author, in 1943, expects us to now return to government spending – as in building infrastructure. However, that is not happening, because the corporate controlled media has convince many that America has a spending problem, and we should continue to cut the budget. The truth is, we have a revenue problem and cutting the budget will sink your economy.

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As has already been argued, lasting full employment is not at all to their liking. The workers would 'get out of hand' and the 'captains of industry' would be anxious to 'teach them a lesson'. Moreover, the price increase in the upswing is to the disadvantage of small and big rentiers, and makes them 'boom-tired'.

In this situation a powerful alliance is likely to be formed between big business and rentier interests, and they would probably find more than one economist to declare that the situation was manifestly unsound. The pressure of all these forces, and in particular of big business—as a rule influential in government departments—would most probably induce the government to return to the orthodox policy of cutting down the budget deficit. A slump would follow in which government spending policy would again come into its own.

This pattern of a political business cycle is not entirely conjectural; something very similar happened in the USA in 1937-8. The breakdown of the boom in the second half of 1937 was actually due to the drastic reduction of the budget deficit. On the other hand, in the acute slump that followed the government promptly reverted to a spending policy.

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Again, we are not returning to more government spending, despite that being the right answer. Also, note, the spending does not have to create debt. Aside from borrowing, you can tax idle money, or you can move money from gov. departments that do not create jobs and spend it in areas that create lots of jobs per dollar spent.

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T.E.C. - Iowa Keen wrote, “Its peculiar that no historic sources I've seen describe it as such democratization of profits.” Well, Keen needs to read more. However, I also gave the example of farmer's coop as a democratization of profit. I will add to that the Mondragon Corporation of Spain with its 50,000 workers.

Next Keen wrote, “I will overlook...See More

Mar 8, 2017

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T.E.C. - Iowa Hopefully the video is found by clicking the link!

Mar 8, 2017

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Republicans and lead poisoning!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Mar 8, 2017

Politics aside, the use of lead in hunting and fishing needs to go. We have known about this problem since the 1970s (actually since the Greeks and Romans), and still we do nothing. Now, after Pres. Obama banned lead from federal lands, the new Republican Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke reversed the ban. IMHO, this is the stupid conservative p...See More

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Mendeleev On 3/08/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > Politics aside, the use of lead in hunting and fishing needs > to go. We have known about this problem since the 1970s > (actually since the Greeks and Romans), and still we do > nothing. Now, after Pres. Obama banned lead from federal > lands, the new Republican Secretary of the Interior Ryan > ...See More

Mar 8, 2017

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T.E.C. - Iowa About the solubility of lead, the poster “Mendeleev” needs to read on what happens to lead in acid environments, what happens to lead when it is ingested, and what happens when it is lodged in the tissues

But the worst, the poster “Mendeleev” seems to be dismissing the use of lead and its role in lead poisoning – arguing that lea...See More

Mar 8, 2017

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Ben Carson

by Tim Finnegan

Mar 7, 2017

One might call Ben Carson calling slaves immigrants is deplorable. Who would ever think that slaves were immigrants? Who could support anyone who said something like this about slaves being immigrants?

"It wasn’t always easy for new immigrants. Certainly it wasn’t easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntar...See More

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leaves a bad taste in your mouth, doesn't it? On 3/08/17, EasTexSteve wrote:
> On 3/08/17, Bob R/CA wrote:
>> On 3/08/17, EasTexSteve wrote:
>>> The first person to refer to slaves as immigrants was
>>> the messiah, Barack Obama.
>>
>> I can understand your frustration over the GOP's recent
>> record with leaders.
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Mar 8, 2017

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yep, definitely a bad taste On 3/08/17, Bob R/CA wrote: > It's not important that you believe it. I suppose it would > only take on the sheen of truth if Trump told you he read > it on Infowars.

You can suppose whatever you like.

> But CNN reported that, and they had actual sources: > CNN reported Wednesday that Russian ambassador Sergey >...See More

Mar 8, 2017

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No evidence of...

by Chalky

Mar 8, 2017

...those 3-5 million fraudulent votes in the 2016 election.

"The House Oversight Committee will not investigate President Donald Trump's unproven claims of wide-spread voter fraud during the 2016 election, Chairman Jason Chaffetz said Tuesday.

Speaking on CNN, the Utah representative said he does not see any evidence to back ...See More

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Plenty of evidence if you look On 3/08/17, Chalky wrote: > ...those 3-5 million fraudulent votes in the 2016 election. > > "The House Oversight Committee will not investigate President > Donald Trump's unproven claims of wide-spread voter fraud > during the 2016 election, Chairman Jason Chaffetz said > Tuesday. > > Speaking on CNN, the Utah represent...See More

Mar 8, 2017

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Head of intelligence committee: we know who

by EasTexSteve

Mar 8, 2017

Sen Tom Cotton, head of senate intelligence committee, confirms that the communications between Flynn and Russian ambassador were wiretapped, admits he knows which agency was in charge of the tap and who ordered it. Cotton also revealed that the DOJ has been leaking classified information received from the FBI to former Obama Administration employe...See More

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In case you still doubt that US intel wiretapped Trump Tower

by EasTexSteve

Mar 7, 2017

Straight from the liberal oracles' mouth:

WASHINGTON — American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his fo...See More

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long-time lurker On 3/07/17, EasTexSteve wrote: > Straight from the liberal oracles' mouth: > > WASHINGTON -- American law enforcement and intelligence > agencies are examining intercepted communications and > financial transactions as part of a broad investigation > into possible links between Russian officials and > associa...See More

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Denial On 3/08/17, long-time lurker wrote: > On 3/07/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >> Straight from the liberal oracles' mouth: >> >> WASHINGTON -- American law enforcement and > intelligence >> agencies are examining intercepted communications and >> financial transactions as part of a broad investigation &...See More

Mar 8, 2017

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Republican Health Care!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Mar 7, 2017

So this is where the Republican Party is on health care. Representative Jason Chaffetz (R) of Utah says, “So maybe, rather than getting that new iPhone that they just love and they want to go spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.”

This is absurd! An epipen can cost more than an iPhone! Next, so...See More

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EasTexSteve > In reality for many families > the choice is between health insurance and the heating bill.

Some, but not most. It's a twisted sense of values. And, Chaffetz is right about most people who face the decision of healthcare vs "something else." The reason is, that those people consider healthcare something they are owed just...See More

Mar 7, 2017

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T.E.C. - Iowa Wow, ETS thinks the poor – no everyone – should “budget” for their health care needs of the future. ETS tells us THOSE people “live beyond their means.” Oh yes, and beyond their means includes buying an iPhone. As I wrote, “some Republican (like ETS) will be telling us we cannot eat out, go to a show, or buy steak at the grocery store...See More

Mar 7, 2017

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Bob goes down swinging LOL!

by EasTexSteve

Mar 7, 2017

Robby Mook, Hillary's former campaign manager, just admitted on a Fox interview that there were wiretaps, and Hillary's campaign KNEW ABOUT THEM as early as October of last year!

I thought these were supposed to be secret LOLOLOL!

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Chalky On 3/07/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: > On 3/07/17, Chalky wrote: >> ETS---stuck on that bicycle, pedaling like crazy, >> muttering: >> >> "But, but, but.... >> >> HILLARY." >> >> > > Interesting ... for the entire Obama presidency, we heard, > "But, but, but... BUSH!"
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EasTexSteve On 3/07/17, Chalky wrote:

> "But, but, but....
>
> HILLARY."

It's not Hillary I'm pointing out. It's your
inconsistency, politicizing and lack of objectivity.

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