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The people deserve to know

by Chalky

Feb 16, 2017

Shepard Smith on Fox news:

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ISIS kills 250 Christian children by KNEADING them to death

by in a bread machine (let's let 'em on in)

Feb 15, 2017

According to one ISIS survivor in Syria, Christian children were kneaded to death in bread machines, the rotating machines breaking their bones and crushing their young bodies for no crime except being Christian.

This story has been told by Alice Assaf whose son was beaten then shot by ISIS because he refused to change his first name from ...See More

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Trump inherited Obama's mess On 2/16/17, Bob R/CA wrote:
> On 2/16/17, The result of Obama wrote:
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>> So, let's see how this works. Obama and Clinton ignore
>> Syria
> for
>> years, they stood idly by while a million syrians were
> murdered by
>> ISIS and the government. During this time, you ignore
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Feb 16, 2017

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Where is "a rock", Trumpster? nfm On 2/16/17, Trump inherited Obama's mess wrote: > On 2/16/17, Bob R/CA wrote: >> On 2/16/17, The result of Obama wrote: >> >>> So, let's see how this works. Obama and Clinton ignore >>> Syria >> for >>> years, they stood idly by while a million syrians were >> murdered by >>> ISIS and t...See MoreOn 2/16/17, Trump inherited Obama's mess wrote: > On 2/16/17, Bob R/CA wrote: >> On 2/16/17, The result of Obama wrote: >> >>> So, let's see how this works. Obama and Clinton ignore >>> Syria >> for >>> years, they stood idly by while a million syrians were >> murdered by >>> ISIS and the government. During this time, you ignore >>> the situation and now you want to condemn people you >>> don't even >> know >>> for that disaster. >> >> Nice try. Bush was warned this would be the consequence >> of toppling Saddam and creating a power vacuum at the >> very center of the Muslim universe. > > He was warned? I don't know if you noticed but this is > Syria, not Iraq Bush didn't invade Syria. As for warnings, > who warned him? Unnamed experts? Would these be the people > who ignored the million or so murders of Saddam? I seem to > recall the Egyptian leader predicting that the war in Iraq > would lead to a million Osama Bin Laden's but that never > happened., he was wrong. Who knew? > >> "Mission accomplished." > > Yep, Iraq has a democratically elected gov't. Don't you > like democracy? > >> That djinn ain't going back in that bottle. > > True, but democracy is a good thing. The Iraqis seem to > like it. As for Syria, we can thank Obama and Clinton for > that mess. > >> And US ground troops into Syria is just sending more >> horses and men over after Dumpty. > > So, what's your take on Obama sending US troops into Iraq > and getting them killed? Obama withdrew all US forces > against advice and allowed Syria to fall into chaos. > Unfortunately president Trump has inherited the mess that > Obama left. Then too, there is the secret negotiations > that candidate Obama conducted with her and before the > election. He could be tried for treason on that. But go > ahead and blame Bush. Obama demanded that Assad resign. > Assad didn't resign and Obama did nothing. Obama drew a > red line on the Syrian use of chemical weapons. The > syrians used chemical weapons and Obama did nothing. Obama > pretended he had not drawn a red line. He allowed Assad > and Isis to murder a million or so innocent civilians and > you think that's Bush's fault. At least President Bush had > something to show for all the effort in a rock. What does > President Obama have to show for all the chaos in Syria?

Feb 16, 2017

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strong negotiator and safety

by long-time lurker

Feb 14, 2017

foxnews.com/us/2017/02/14/russian-spy-ship- off-east-coast-us-officials-say.html

I thought 45 was going to build our military to make our shores safe and grow jobs. It's starting to look like he outsourced safety to the Russian navy.

-ltl

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No, but he doubled down On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote: > On 2/15/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: >> On 2/15/17, Chalky wrote: >>> On 2/15/17, Bob R/CA wrote: >>>> On 2/14/17, Tim Finnegan wrote: >>>>> On 2/14/17, long-time lurker wrote: >>>>>> foxnews.com/us/2017/02/14/russian-spy-ship- >>>>>> off-east-coas...See More

Feb 16, 2017

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Tim Finnegan On 2/16/17, Bob R/CA wrote:
> On 2/16/17, No, but he doubled down wrote:
>
>> on "if you like your doctor/insurance, you can keep
> him/her/it"
>> and Obamacare will "save you $2500 a year on insurance
> premiums".
>> He repeated these lies many, many times.
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Feb 16, 2017

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KremlinGate

by Chalky

Feb 15, 2017

"The president seems to be increasingly flabbergasted by the exposure of his clandestine relationship with Moscow. As is his wont, he took to Twitter to lambaste the Intelligence Community and the mainstream media some more, denouncing “fake news” and IC leaks, while asserting that American spies are acting “just like Russia”—a puzz...See More "The president seems to be increasingly flabbergasted by the exposure of his clandestine relationship with Moscow. As is his wont, he took to Twitter to lambaste the Intelligence Community and the mainstream media some more, denouncing “fake news” and IC leaks, while asserting that American spies are acting “just like Russia”—a puzzling statement that may be more revealing than the president intended—and to top it off they’re “very un-American.” Perhaps this is progress of a sort, since it was only a few weeks ago that Trump compared the IC to Nazi Germany on Twitter.

All the same, presidential mania on social media isn’t a pretty picture and will do nothing to stop the coming investigations by Congress into what exactly was going on between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin last year. Trump’s bluster and deflections on the campaign trail sufficed to push aside some of those troubling questions, but things have reached a point that the full story, no matter how unpleasant it may be, will come out, eventually.

At a minimum, the House and Senate intelligence committees will be conducting investigations which ought to worry the White House, whose political future will likely depend on how many Republicans are willing to back Trump—and by extension the Kremlin—over fellow Americans. Since several prominent Republican senators, including Intelligence Committee chair Richard Burr, have indicated that investigations are going forward, the White House can’t depend on partisan loyalty to protect them for much longer.

Republicans should be advised to put country over party right now and pursue rigorous inquiries into the full extent of Trump’s Moscow links and their impact on the election—and the new administration. Washington is at the precipice of a scandal unlike anything seen since Watergate. Indeed, KremlinGate promises to be much seedier and more troubling than anything proffered by President Nixon.

Here the inevitable comparisons to Watergate fall short. Tricky Dick committed domestic crimes, and paid the price for them, but Nixon was in no way beholden to a foreign power—much less one which has several thousand nuclear weapons pointed at the United States. Neither did Nixon collude with that foreign power’s spies to arrange his own election to the presidency.

We are now discussing things worse than mere impeachment. If members of Trump’s team colluded with Russian intelligence, the Espionage Act comes into play, and we’ve entered uncharted waters, presidentially speaking.

For the foreseeable future, the still-forming White House will be enmeshed in fighting for its political life as disturbing allegations mount in Washington. Donald Trump promised to shake up American politics, and less than a month into his presidency he has surely done so. But not in the way he promised."

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Asplundh Tree Execs Charged With Running Undocumented

by Worker Scheme (let's let 'em on in)

Feb 15, 2017

Willow Grove-based Asplundh Tree Expert Co. is huge, privately owned corporation with more than 36,000 employees and estimated annual sales of $3.5 billion, according to Forbes, which counts it as one of America’s largest private companies. But now, Asplundh finds itself the recipient of some very unwelcome attention thanks to charges just filed ...See More

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Is this how the world sees us now?

by Chalky

Feb 15, 2017

Making America Great Again!

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Teachers, grade this

by Chalky

Feb 15, 2017

How would you grade this answer on an essay test question?

Pass?

Fail?

:::from press conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:::

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FAIL! nfm On 2/15/17, Chalky wrote: > How would you grade this answer on an essay test question? > > Pass? > > Fail? > > :::from press conference with Prime Minister Benjamin > Netanyahu:::

Feb 15, 2017

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To Bob -- *If* Flynn's convos were recorded

by Chalky

Feb 14, 2017

...is that legal?

The question was raised by a WSJ article entitled "Eavesdropping on Michael Flynn".

The article linked below describes why recording his conversations might have been legal after all.

:::learning tons about covert operations:::

Bob, what do you think?

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Lulu On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:

> The Roguepotusstaff Twitter account (I'll try to link it here but you > may have to search if that doesn't work) is a good example of the > kinds of leaks that are driving POTUS crazy. They're very careful > not to divulge anything related to national security but they have > been giving daily, dama...See More

Feb 15, 2017

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Tim finnegan On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:
> On 2/15/17, Lulu wrote:
>
>> The Roguepotusstaff Twitter account (I'll try to link it
>> here but
you
>> may have to search if that doesn't work) is a good
>> example of
the
>> kinds of leaks that are driving POTUS crazy. They're
>> very
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About those leaks...

by Chalky

Feb 14, 2017

45 is on Twitter today whining about leaks.

Doesn't he realize that his downfall may *not* come from US leaks?

Our allies could very well bring down his presidency.

From James Baker in an interview last week: “We have allies that are just scared to death,” Baker notes, as a result of Trump’s early rhetoric and unpr...See More

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And he didn't say they weren't true nfm On 2/14/17, Chalky wrote: > > 45 is on Twitter today whining about leaks. > > Doesn't he realize that his downfall may *not* come from US > leaks? > > Our allies could very well bring down his presidency. > > From James Baker in an interview last week:

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