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The anti-Trumpsters go down swinging LOL!

by EasTexSteve

Feb 5, 2017

In a major blow to the ACLU, a federal judge in Boston refused to extend an order which temporarily put a stop to a portion of Trump’s controversial “extreme vetting” immigration order.

"The Court concludes that plaintiffs have not shown a likelihood of success on the merits with respect to Count IV, in which plaintiffs allege t...See More

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EasTexSteve On 2/06/17, Lulu wrote:
> ETS, I made my post yesterday, Feb. 5th, two days after
> the 3rd. I know both Robart's restraining order and
> Gorton's decision not to extend his TRO happened on
> Friday. They're independent events, based on two
> different lawsuits. The case will be next heard by the
> 9th Circuit C...See More

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EasTexSteve On 2/06/17, Lulu wrote:
> ETS, I made my post yesterday, Feb. 5th, two days after
> the 3rd.
I
> know both Robart's restraining order and Gorton's
> decision not to extend his TRO happened on Friday.
> They're independent events, based on two different
> lawsuits. The case will be next heard by
the
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To ETS - Was Apple right?

by Chalky

Feb 6, 2017

Looks like Cellebrite, the Israeli company that sold the FBI the hacking tools to get into the San Bernardino iPhone has been hacked.

Follow the link within the article to Motherboard for more info.

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EasTexSteve On 2/06/17, Chalky wrote: > Looks like Cellebrite, the Israeli company that sold the FBI the > hacking tools to get into the San Bernardino iPhone has been > hacked. > > Follow the link within the article to Motherboard for more info.

Apple based it's argument upon the assumption that it had the only method to hack the Iphon...See More

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Testing Trump

by Chalky

Feb 6, 2017

From the conservative website Red State...

"WOW. China Sails Warships Near Islands James Mattis Promised to Defend For Japan"

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he anti-Trumpsters LOL!

by EasTexSteve

Feb 5, 2017

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Lulu On 2/05/17, Lulu wrote: > What are you laughing at? The Gorton decision came down 2 > days ago and was superseded by the Robert decision. > > On 2/05/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >> In a major blow to the ACLU, a federal judge in Boston refused >> to extend an order which temporarily put a stop to a portion >> of Trump’s c...See More

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Chalky Bless ETS's heart. Things are so chaotic with this administration, it's hard to keep up.

;-)

On 2/05/17, Lulu wrote: > What are you laughing at? The Groton decision came down 2 > days ago and was superseded by the Robert decision. > > On 2/05/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >> In a major blow to the ACLU, a federal judge...See More

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Here is someone who should be impeached!

by Tim Finnegan

Feb 5, 2017

CA State Senate President Pro-Tem believes that illegal immigrants who steal social security numbers (or obtain other fraudulent ID) have not committed a deportable offense! Here we have a very high ranking democrat who believes that identify theft isn't a big crime. He has many friends and family members who have stolen identities from innocent Am...See More

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Obama robs social security on his way out the door

by EasTexSteve

Feb 4, 2017

What and who is responsible for this thievery? Last April President Obama signed into law (with bipartisan support!) something called the “Doc Fix.” Politicians sold the plan as a smart way to help pay for low income Medicare recipients and children who did not have access to health care. Retired folks who report a lot of income got docked pay ...See More

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such as? On 2/05/17, Who has rejected attempts to help military personnel, ETS C wrote: > > The republicans in Congress have defeated many bills > intended to help military personnel, both active duty and > retired. > > > > > > On 2/05/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >> On 2/04/17, Lulu wrote: >>> I don't really think Ber...See More

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Such as (see list below) H.R. 466--Wounded Veteran Job Security Act

H.R. 1168--Veterans Retraining Act

H.R.1171--Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization

H.R. 1172--Requiring List on VA Website of Organizations Providing Scholarships for Veterans

H.R. 1293--Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Gran...See More

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Roots of a counterproductive immigration policy

by Cha Cha

Feb 3, 2017

<b>"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won’t do."</b>

"Trump’s executive order has unleashed chaos, harmed lawful U.S. residents, and alienated potential friends in the Islamic world. Yet without the dreamy liberal refusal to rec...See More

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T.E.C. - Iowa If you have been here for years and we have not enforced our laws, there is a legal status for having a right to stay. It would take some time for me to find this!

However, LTL is now essentially saying, "If you can get here, not get caught, get a job, and contribute; you can stay!" Adding that extra does not change the insanity ...See MoreIf you have been here for years and we have not enforced our laws, there is a legal status for having a right to stay. It would take some time for me to find this!

However, LTL is now essentially saying, "If you can get here, not get caught, get a job, and contribute; you can stay!" Adding that extra does not change the insanity of this policy.

And about "I don't know that anyone is really suggesting that we open our borders." What a line of crap! Yes, this is advocating open borders, and it does so by default because you have no laws that you are enforcing. Just wait until there is a massive famine, war, or whatever in Central or South America, and you will discover the foolishness of this thinking.

On the other side of the coin, ETS wrote, "it's called standing in line and going through the process like everyone else wanting to come in legally." By the way, those who come here legally have often spent five to ten thousand dollars in legal bills. And now your response is "Oh, let them stay, because I cannot stand the harshness of enforcing the law." It is no wonder conservatives think some liberals are "bleeding hearts."

Again, this country, and the sanctuary cities in particular, are advocating and currently have open borders - that is, if you can get here you can stay!

A story: I once set at lunch with a group of college instructors. They discussed how they like the illegals because they like the ethnic food from their restaurants. One even said he like how cheaply he could get his lawn and garden work done. All I could think was, "You would not be so happy if the country was being flooded with Masters Degree college graduates who could compete for your job.

And therein is the annoying part of those who say "Oh, but they contribute!" Often they contribute by taking a job from an American Citizen or at the very least depress their wages. Yet, what I see from the "they contribute" crowd is a fantasy-like denial of the hard economic facts regarding what is happening. They are happy and blissful so long as it is not happening to them.

PS: You do not have to seal the borders the way some imagine. You simply start enforcing employment laws. Although this would have to be done in a way to avoid economic disruption, if you put the Americans who employ the illegals in jail, the problem would diminish very quickly. Those laws are already on the books!

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long-time lurker On 2/05/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > If you have been here for years and we have not enforced our > laws, there is a legal status for having a right to stay. It > would take some time for me to find this! > > However, LTL is now essentially saying, "If you can get here, > not get caught, get a job, and contribute; you can stay!...See MoreOn 2/05/17, T.E.C. - Iowa wrote: > If you have been here for years and we have not enforced our > laws, there is a legal status for having a right to stay. It > would take some time for me to find this! > > However, LTL is now essentially saying, "If you can get here, > not get caught, get a job, and contribute; you can stay!" > Adding that extra does not change the insanity of this policy. >

Not at all. I didn't say that and resent the implications. We have a president who has strongly implied and demonstrated that he will behave as a loose canon, implementing new and untested strategy on a whim. He seems perfectly willing to undermine existing laws, substituting crackdowns on new and un-vetted policies to stir contention. There are no assurances that he would not attempt to change policies and deport people who have been here lawfully for years. His administration has hinted strongly and he has stated that Muslims need to go. There have been suggestions of doubling the income threshold for HB1 visas. His administration has simultaneously made proposals, however informal that they would apply tests for people who are disabled, "wrong" religions, etc and remove them. The president defines anyone who reaches this shore as an "illegal immigrant."

I support sound border control. I support sound legal deportation practices. I do not support erratic, vague rantings of our impulsive child president and his supporters. I do not and will not support the tools of division that are allowing this disrespectful signature stamp and his buddy Bannon to exert pressure tests on our Constitution.

> And about "I don't know that anyone is really suggesting that > we open our borders." What a line of crap! Yes, this is > advocating open borders, and it does so by default because you > have no laws that you are enforcing. Just wait until there is > a massive famine, war, or whatever in Central or South > America, and you will discover the foolishness of this thinking.

I would like to see diplomacy and border control, but I don't trust this administrations ability to engage in diplomacy. I have seen small indications the administration seeks to undermine the American work force while strengthening profit avenues for his Wall St buddies. I have seen indication that this administration favors helping their Wall St buddies over the environment. If Trump actually would say and follow up with anything trustworthy and diplomatic, he might actually be able to work toward the goal of safety but he blatantly pushes division.

-ltl

> On the other side of the coin, ETS wrote, "it's called > standing in line and going through the process like everyone > else wanting to come in legally." By the way, those who come > here legally have often spent five to ten thousand dollars in > legal bills. And now your response is "Oh, let them stay, > because I cannot stand the harshness of enforcing the law." > It is no wonder conservatives think some liberals are > "bleeding hearts." > > Again, this country, and the sanctuary cities in particular, > are advocating and currently have open borders - that is, if > you can get here you can stay! > > A story: I once set at lunch with a group of college > instructors. They discussed how they like the illegals > because they like the ethnic food from their restaurants. One > even said he like how cheaply he could get his lawn and garden > work done. All I could think was, "You would not be so happy > if the country was being flooded with Masters Degree college > graduates who could compete for your job. > > And therein is the annoying part of those who say "Oh, but > they contribute!" Often they contribute by taking a job from > an American Citizen or at the very least depress their wages. > Yet, what I see from the "they contribute" crowd is a > fantasy-like denial of the hard economic facts regarding what > is happening. They are happy and blissful so long as it is > not happening to them. > > > PS: You do not have to seal the borders the way some imagine. > You simply start enforcing employment laws. Although this > would have to be done in a way to avoid economic disruption, > if you put the Americans who employ the illegals in jail, the > problem would diminish very quickly. Those laws are already > on the books! >

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For those who think Islam is

by Lulu

Feb 4, 2017

the only religion that can be warped into something dangerous:

"The idea of witchcraft is hardly new, but it has taken on new life recently, partly because of a rapid growth in evangelical Christianity. Campaigners against the practice say around 15,000 children have been accused in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade and ...See More

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EasTexSteve On 2/04/17, Lulu wrote: > the only religion that can be warped into something dangerous:

The difference is that islam isn't "warped" into something dangerous. It started out that way.

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EasTexSteve On 2/04/17, Lulu wrote: > The only point I was > trying to make was that I've seen Islam decried as a violent religion > despite the fact that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful law- > abiding citizens

Sure they are. That's why they condone throwing people off of buildings based upon their sexual preferences. And, treati...See More

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