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A question!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Jan 31, 2017

I wrote this question in another thread but decided it would be nice to see if I could get more answers in a new thread.

The Democrats are outraged at Pres. Trump's immigration order. It seems they want to defend all immigrants as if their policy is "if you can get here you can stay!" Tell us, under what circumstances does a Demo...See More

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The raid fiasco is all on Trump's shoulders. nm On 2/04/17, It's going to take a long time to clean up
Obama's mess wrote:
> On 2/03/17, No, "bad things"--President Obama did NOT
> "sign
off" on
> this wrote:
>> On 2/03/17, bad things happen wrote:
>>> On 2/02/17, long-time lurker wrote:
>>>> Well, I'm sorry th...See More

Feb 4, 2017

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Lulu As much as I'd like to lay this at Trump's feet I don't really think we can. The planning started under the Obama administration and carried out under Trump's so clearly both thought a raid of this kind was a good idea. The intel and execution were the responsibility of the intelligence agencies and military. F-ups of this sort seem to happen with ...See MoreAs much as I'd like to lay this at Trump's feet I don't really think we can. The planning started under the Obama administration and carried out under Trump's so clearly both thought a raid of this kind was a good idea. The intel and execution were the responsibility of the intelligence agencies and military. F-ups of this sort seem to happen with alarming regularity under both Republican and Democratic administrations and IMO it's a wider issue of our military policies.

On 2/04/17, The raid fiasco is all on Trump's shoulders. nm wrote: > On 2/04/17, It's going to take a long time to clean up > Obama's mess wrote: >> On 2/03/17, No, "bad things"--President Obama did NOT >> "sign > off" on >> this wrote: >>> On 2/03/17, bad things happen wrote: >>>> On 2/02/17, long-time lurker wrote: >>>>> Well, I'm sorry the liberals didn't throw a sufficient >>>>> fit. Like I said, I am not of a partisan mindset. That >>>>> said, I think the failure of this raid exceeds the >>>>> action that landed Hilary in the hot seat. >>>> >>>> Let's see: the Navy planned this raid. The SecDef >>>> signed >>> off >>>> on it as did the president. It was delayed because the >>>> Navy planners wanted a moonless night and, possibly >>>> because the terrorists were tipped off, they walked >>>> into an ambush. In the Benghazi raid 4 Americans >>>> including the ambassador were killed, the consulate >>>> sacked after the SecState, Clinton- denied improvements >>>> to their security. Then the gov't lied about what >>>> happened and how the raid occurred. Seems like >>> one >>>> was worse than the other. You can't blame Trump for >>>> that. >>> You >>>> can but it meaningless. >>>> >>>>> I am angry about the past evolution of the US >>>>> government. It came to blows with this election when >>>>> we were given a choice between vomit and sh*t. Sh*t >>>>> won. We need to stop giving our Constitutional values >>>>> to corporations. Trump seems to be hellbent on fast >>>>> tracking out economy to Goldman Sachs and Exxon. He >>>>> has placed a self proclaimed leninist puppet master in >>>>> front of security and to alarm and accelerate division >>>>> so he can push this agenda. >>>>> >>>>> -ltl >>>> >>>> That's a curious tirade 2 weeks into a new >>>> administration. Trump promised to rebuild the economy >>>> and this is how its done. If you think you know better, >>>> contact your congressional representatives, senators or >>>> the White House and explain your reasoning. You're free >>>> to think what you like but I rather doubt you're in a >>>> position to know what happened or why. Maybe your vast >>>> experience in special forces informs your opinion? >> >> Sure you did, he allowed this mission to go forward >> through > planning >> and it was only coincidence that they had to delay until >> after > he >> left office. Trump gave them the final go-ahead. > Unfortunately, they >> were Betrayed at some point because they walked into an > ambush. For >> all you know it was someone in the Obama White House he > spilled the >> beans.

Feb 4, 2017

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Dodd Frank

by long-time lurker

Feb 3, 2017

I'm not opposed to looking at Dodd Frank and making modifications. Heavy regulations were needed to close in on the banking problems that lead to the housing collapse. Such regulations should be part of an organic process of evolution to protect the consumer while allowing business to flow. With Goldman Sachs now holding onto a large influence, I d...See More

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Ea On 2/03/17, is it true that no bank in the USA will loan to Trump? nm wrote:

About as true as green cheese on the moon.

Feb 3, 2017

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Then why, according to the WSJ, does Trump get his loans from Deutsche Bank?

On 2/03/17, Ea wrote: > On 2/03/17, is it true that no bank in the USA will loan to Trump? > nm wrote: > > About as true as green cheese on the moon.

Feb 4, 2017

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Neoliberal Capitalism Fails Us Again!

by T.E.C. - Iowa

Feb 4, 2017

Neoliberal Capitalism has failed so astoundingly, yet our biggest problem is, most Americans cannot imagine another system.

The newest example is the drug naloxone, which is used to reverse opioid overdose. The title of the article tells it all, "The price of a life-saving overdose treatment has increased 680&37; to $4,500 in the ...See More

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Ooooo, how ironic...

by Chalky

Feb 3, 2017

:::quote::: President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the Army abruptly withdrew his name from consideration late Friday night, citing his inability to get around strict Defense Department rules concerning his family businesses.

:::snip::: Sources familiar said Viola had been looking for ways to divest from his businesses -- including o...See More

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EasTexSteve And, your point is what?

On 2/03/17, Chalky wrote: > > :::quote::: > President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the Army abruptly > withdrew his name from consideration late Friday night, citing > his inability to get around strict Defense Department rules > concerning his family businesses. > > :::snip::: > Sour...See More

Feb 3, 2017

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Why no ban on these countries?

by Chalky

Jan 28, 2017

Saudi Arabia:

Fifteen (15!) of the 9/11 terrorists were from SA.

Could it be that POTUS registered eight (8!) companies in SA during the campaign?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990- trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia

And what about Pakistan?

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long-time lurker On 2/02/17, EasTexSteve wrote: > On 2/02/17, We could make a much longer list of murders by > white wrote: >> >> so-called "Christians". > > None from the middle east.

No, we raise Christain Alt-right, white nationalist, racist terrorist right here at home. Still, none of your examples fit the bill as evid...See More

Feb 2, 2017

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EasTexSteve On 2/02/17, long-time lurker wrote:
> On 2/02/17, EasTexSteve wrote:
>> On 2/02/17, We could make a much longer list of murders
>> by white wrote:
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>>> so-called "Christians".
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> No, we raise Christain Alt-right, whit...See More

Feb 2, 2017

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Emma Lazarus doesn't make US policy

by Where is it written that the US must take in refugees from e

Feb 2, 2017

The United States has, at various points in time, banned people from many countries, barred religions, barred the mentally unstable, banned people with various politics. All of these bands were temporary. Some lasted years some lasted decades all of these bands were temporary. Some lasted years some last two decades. Trumps than on people from vari...See More

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long-time lurker On 2/02/17, Where is it written that the US must take in refugees from e wrote: > The United States has, at various points in time, banned > people from many countries, barred religions, barred the > mentally unstable, banned people with various politics. > All of these bands were temporary. Some lasted years some > lasted decades al...See More

Feb 2, 2017

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Donald Trump's "Foreign Policy"

by Lulu

Feb 1, 2017

"Give me what I want or I'll invade your country."

According to Time, "You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care ...See More

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This is the new reality the president doesn't think evil sho On 2/01/17, Lulu wrote: > "Give me what I want or I'll invade your country." > > According to Time, > "You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told > Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't > doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our > military i...See More

Feb 2, 2017

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This is the new reality the president doesn't think Fixed that title for you. :-)

On 2/02/17, This is the new reality the president doesn't think evil sho wrote: > On 2/01/17, Lulu wrote: >> "Give me what I want or I'll invade your country." >> >> According to Time, >> "You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told >> Pena Nieto...See More

Feb 2, 2017

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Is it a ban....

by Chalky

Jan 31, 2017

....or not?

You can't make this stuff up!

Can we have just *one* day in this administration the truth reigns?

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Lulu On 1/31/17, Chalky wrote: > ....or not? > > You can't make this stuff up! > > Can we have just *one* day in this administration the truth > reigns? >

Jan 31, 2017

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