You are correct. He said exactly he would impose a Muslim Ban. He has followed through. He did exactly what he said he would do.
This is not a halt to all immigration > from the affected countries. It is a temporary band on people from > certain countries and not even everyone from those countries. Not > only does he have the Constitutional authority to do this he has > the legal Authority. Perhaps what is confusing so many people is > that he is an entreprenuer he is going to do as much as he > possibly can during the time he has.
What is confusing is his refusal to give people on the ground, charged with following this action, the very tools to aid the process. He failed to include people who were legally vetted. Spicer just agreed that handcuffing a 5 year old was acceptable. What is confusing is a poorly constructed implementation of a plan. He restricted legally vetted participants in our society, some who risked their lives to help our country. Those are facts. He refused to order a court order. His administration find it acceptable that a 5 year old little girl, under no suspicion of a crime, was handcuffed due to this action.
You can love it. I find nothing to even like or respect about the action and the disruption it created.
He is not a politician > looking to Curry favor and I don't see any great signs that he > gives a crap about popularity polls.
I think he cares a great deal about popularity. He doesn't trust the polls or even the masses of the people in the streets. But, while many people have marveled at the masses of Americans exercising their right to speak out and be counted, it's the kind of news that fades. That is, unless the president brings it up.
Pew research reported that voter registration records were in need of fixing. Trump spent countless opportunities screaming, "Fraud!" Yes, there needs to be better communication of state registrars, but even his office-holding supporters don't believe there is no evidence to indicate fraud.
n 1/31/17, Live it and love it wrote: > On 1/31/17, Mama maria wrote: >> On 1/30/17, Trump is kicking butt and taking names. >> Trump is kicking but wrote: >>> Nfm >> Which part should I love? The part where the Dow dived? >> The part where he is violating one of our founding >> principals, the right of freedom of religion? Or maybe I >> should love that he circumvented the house, senate and >> judicial system? So far the only thing I've loved is his wife's >> inauguration dress > > You don't have to like anything. President Trump you don't have to > like anything. President Trump is doing exactly what he said he do > this is not a Muslim van. This is not a halt to all immigration > from the affected countries. It is a temporary band on people from > certain countries and not even everyone from those countries. Not > only does he have the Constitutional authority to do this he has > the legal Authority. Perhaps what is confusing so many people is > that he is an entreprenuer he is going to do as much as he > possibly can during the time he has. He is not a politician > looking to Curry favor and I don't see any great signs that he > gives a crap about popularity polls.
Not sure what you mean. Are you saying you're not sure why we don't have a total Muslim ban or that Trump's executive order should be considered a Muslim ban?
:::quote::: A man who President Donald Trump has promoted as an authority on voter fraud was registered to vote in multiple states during the 2016 presidential election, the Associated Press has learned.
Gregg Phillips, whose unsubstantiated claim that the election was marred by 3 million illegal votes was tweeted by the president, was listed on the rolls in Alabama, Texas and Mississippi, according to voting records and election officials in those states. He voted only in Alabama in November, records show.
In a post earlier this month, Phillips described "an amazing effort" by volunteers tied to True the Vote, an organization whose board he sits on, who he said found "thousands of duplicate records and registrations of dead people."
Trump has made an issue of people who are registered to vote in more than one state, using it as one of the bedrocks of his overall contention that voter fraud is rampant in the U.S. and that voting by 3 to 5 million immigrants illegally in the country cost him the popular vote in November.
The AP found that Phillips was registered in Alabama and Texas under the name Gregg Allen Phillips, with the identical Social Security number. Mississippi records list him under the name Gregg A. Phillips, and that record includes the final four digits of Phillips' Social Security number, his correct date of birth and a prior address matching one once attached to Gregg Allen Phillips. He has lived in all three states.
At the time of November's presidential election, Phillips' status was "inactive" in Mississippi and suspended in Texas. Officials in both states told the AP that Phillips could have voted, however, by producing identification and updating his address at the polls.
Citing concerns about voters registered in several states, the president last week called for a major investigation into his claim of voter fraud, despite his campaign lawyer's conclusion that the 2016 election was "not tainted."
"When you look at the people that are registered, dead, illegal and two states, and some cases maybe three states, we have a lot to look into," Trump said in an ABC interview.
Reached by telephone Monday, Phillips said he was unaware of his multiple registrations but asked, "Why would I know or care?" :::end quote:::
So, how many people in the Trump inner circle does that make who are registered in multiple states?
On 1/30/17, EasTexSteve wrote: > OK, he voted once in one state. So where is the voter fraud? > > > On 1/30/17, Chalky wrote: >> LOL.... >> >> What a hoot! >> >> :::quote::: >> A man who President Donald Trump has promoted as an >> authority on voter fraud was registered to vote in multiple > states >> during the 2016 presidential election, the Associated Press > has >> learned. >> >> Gregg Phillips, whose unsubstantiated claim that the election >> was marred by 3 million illegal votes was tweeted by the >> president, was listed on the rolls in Alabama, Texas and >> Mississippi, according to voting records and election > officials in >> those states. He voted only in Alabama in November, records >> show. >> >> In a post earlier this month, Phillips described "an amazing >> effort" by volunteers tied to True the Vote, an organization >> whose board he sits on, who he said found "thousands of >> duplicate records and registrations of dead people." >> >> Trump has made an issue of people who are registered to vote >> in more than one state, using it as one of the bedrocks of his >> overall contention that voter fraud is rampant in the U.S. and >> that voting by 3 to 5 million immigrants illegally in the > country >> cost him the popular vote in November. >> >> The AP found that Phillips was registered in Alabama and Texas >> under the name Gregg Allen Phillips, with the identical Social >> Security number. Mississippi records list him under the name >> Gregg A. Phillips, and that record includes the final four > digits of >> Phillips' Social Security number, his correct date of birth > and a >> prior address matching one once attached to Gregg Allen >> Phillips. He has lived in all three states. >> >> At the time of November's presidential election, Phillips' > status >> was "inactive" in Mississippi and suspended in Texas. > Officials in >> both states told the AP that Phillips could have voted, > however, >> by producing identification and updating his address at the >> polls. >> >> Citing concerns about voters registered in several states, the >> president last week called for a major investigation into his > claim >> of voter fraud, despite his campaign lawyer's conclusion that >> the 2016 election was "not tainted." >> >> "When you look at the people that are registered, dead, > illegal >> and two states, and some cases maybe three states, we have a >> lot to look into," Trump said in an ABC interview. >> >> Reached by telephone Monday, Phillips said he was unaware of >> his multiple registrations but asked, "Why would I know or >> care?" >> :::end quote::: >> >> So, how many people in the Trump inner circle does that make >> who are registered in multiple states? >> >> I've lost count. >>
On 1/30/17, Chalky wrote: > LOL.... > > What a hoot! > > :::quote::: > A man who President Donald Trump has promoted as an > authority on voter fraud was registered to vote in multiple states > during the 2016 presidential election, the Associated Press has > learned. > > Gregg Phillips, whose unsubstantiated claim that the election > was marred by 3 million illegal votes was tweeted by the > president, was listed on the rolls in Alabama, Texas and > Mississippi, according to voting records and election officials in > those states. He voted only in Alabama in November, records > show. > > In a post earlier this month, Phillips described "an amazing > effort" by volunteers tied to True the Vote, an organization > whose board he sits on, who he said found "thousands of > duplicate records and registrations of dead people." > > Trump has made an issue of people who are registered to vote > in more than one state, using it as one of the bedrocks of his > overall contention that voter fraud is rampant in the U.S. and > that voting by 3 to 5 million immigrants illegally in the country > cost him the popular vote in November. > > The AP found that Phillips was registered in Alabama and Texas > under the name Gregg Allen Phillips, with the identical Social > Security number. Mississippi records list him under the name > Gregg A. Phillips, and that record includes the final four digits of > Phillips' Social Security number, his correct date of birth and a > prior address matching one once attached to Gregg Allen > Phillips. He has lived in all three states. > > At the time of November's presidential election, Phillips' status > was "inactive" in Mississippi and suspended in Texas. Officials in > both states told the AP that Phillips could have voted, however, > by producing identification and updating his address at the > polls. > > Citing concerns about voters registered in several states, the > president last week called for a major investigation into his claim > of voter fraud, despite his campaign lawyer's conclusion that > the 2016 election was "not tainted." > > "When you look at the people that are registered, dead, illegal > and two states, and some cases maybe three states, we have a > lot to look into," Trump said in an ABC interview. > > Reached by telephone Monday, Phillips said he was unaware of > his multiple registrations but asked, "Why would I know or > care?" > :::end quote::: > > So, how many people in the Trump inner circle does that make > who are registered in multiple states? > > I've lost count. >
or from flying through the US. This will affect an estimated 1/2 million people already here on student visa, specialized work visas, or who have permanent residence.
And when we vet refugees, does anyone know if we access all their internet and phone records to see if they had communicated with any radical sites or individuals? That would seem to me a quick way. Of course some of them could have just used a fake name when they registered their computers.
And why are people so upset about a registry/database when all refugees/immigrants to the U.S. go into a database??????? Except the ones who come illegally...
Does anyone believe the cumbersome U.S. Government is going to round up all the Muslims in the U.S. and make them sign a registry? If, so, how would the U.S. know about them and where they live, in order to contact them? We can barely do a decennial national census.
Trump/Bannon don't care about security. They are racists, but more, they are using that racism to create disruption. They can make silly little plans all day, but the agenda is to spur hatred. The administration has made several announcements over the weekend that Bannon has been doing much of the work, from writing the inaugural address to writing this order. He is replacing the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the table advising President Donald Trump on pressing national security issues.
Trump/Bannon are the security risks. Not the translators who worked with our military fighting ISIS, not the elderly couple visiting their family, not the stage for cancer patient. Not the people who who suffered under this action.
-ltl
Cha Cha wrote:
> > And why are people so upset about a registry/database > when all refugees/immigrants to the U.S. go into a > database??????? Except the ones who come illegally...
Really? (see below)
Cha Cha wrote: > Does anyone believe the cumbersome U.S. Government is > going to round up all the Muslims in the U.S. and make > them sign a registry? If, so, how would the U.S. know > about them and where they live, in order to contact them? > We can barely do a decennial national census.
Nazi Germany managed with much less technology.
China is looking at us closely, tentatively, and saying they are not going to stand down to Trump. They are sick of his crap. We need to stop hating human rights and trying to determine who they apply to, and start reading and fact checking.
In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.
DEMOCRAT President Bill Clinton - 1995 State of the Union Address
Limo torched in DC protests belongs to Muslim immigrant, may cost $70,000 in damages
The limousine that was set on fire during the anti-Trump anarchist protest in downtown Washington on Inauguration Day is owned by a Muslim immigrant who says the damage could cost his company $70,000.
Yet, if I was the owner of that limo company, I'd be totally pi$$ed at that driver for not getting my vehicle out of harm's way. Here's the rest of the story:
::::quote:::: "Luis Villarroel, the car's driver, said he had dropped off clients and was parked when he saw the protesters. He said about six people smashed the car's windows with bricks, a piece of wood and, he believes, one or more hammers.
He said it was clear the group didn't have any intention of hurting him.
"It was very clear that these kids only wanted to damage the property,'' he said.
He said after the car's windows were broken, someone threw a flare inside but he was able to stamp out the flame. About an hour and a half later, however, a policeman told him he should leave the area because "things were getting ugly.'' He later got photos of the vehicle on fire, he said.
The company had sent another limousine to pick up the clients, this one a Hummer, and he stayed with the second driver as they picked up their clients. ::::end quote::::
He's a moron for staying there another hour and a half after the first attack.
EasTexSteveOn 1/29/17, AW wrote: > > So is having a business sense. > > Which obama completely lacks. But he was able to print > print print print print print money......
That is about the only thing the Obama administration knew about creating wealth LOLOL!
On 1/29/17, AW wrote: > > So is having a business sense. > > Which obama completely lacks. But he was able to print > print print print print print money...... > > > On 1/29/17, long-time lurker wrote: >> On 1/29/17, EasTexSteve wrote: >>> On 1/28/17, long-time lurker wrote: >>> >>>> On negotiation, Trump says, "They beat us to a pulp." >>>> >>>> cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-mexican-president- > talk >>>> -on- phone-after-canceled-meeting/index.html >>> >>> Exactly! Obama was a wimp when it came to negotiating > for >>> the >> well- >>> being of this country. There is a 58-60 billion dollar >>> trade deficit with Mexico. It's past time to fix it. >> >> Diplomacy is part of a negotiation skill. Trump has none.
Of course I know about Pocahontas, the historical figure, but the way Trump and you used her name was as a slur, just like if you called someone of Asian heritage "Emperor Ming" or someone of AA heritage "Mammy."
I agree that the whole "I'm 1/32 Native American" thing was not Elizabeth Warren's finest moment. It sounds like because of the family's stories she though she was a greater percentage NA and she never benefitted from the designation, but still it was a bit tacky and it made people like me cringe.
That said, can we all grow up and stop calling names? Should we be calling Donald Trump "Little Hands" or "Herr Drumpf?" Let's engage with ideas, not these silly, ugly nicknames used to pigeonhole and dismiss people.
> This entire thread is an embarrassment to Trump > supporters. > > You take persistent issue with a senator *of another > state* who has complied with every legal and ethical law, > rule, and convention. > > Yet make excuses for your president for his refusal to > release his taxes and declare he cannot have any > conflicts of interest.
Are you kidding? Trump has been in the media for decades. Nothing he does is private. If that guy has anything to hide, I don't know where he would hide it.
> There's a reason Trump has a 36&37; approval rating now.
Yeah, it's because the liberal media keeps polling democrats. According to Rasmussen, his approval rating is 59 percent.
> There's a reason the majority of voters didn't vote for > Trump.
Yep, that's what happens when millions of them are illegal votes/voters.
> And there's going to be a reckoning for the GOP for this > rank hypocrisy and blind adherence to such an inept, > contemptible fraud.
I just had a great conversation with one of our local businessmen about Trump's stuff with Mexico and the wall. He said Trump can spout BS as much as he wants but the Mexican leadership is very corrupt. America is great and if you come here and work you can be successful, not in Mexico. How does he know this? He is Mexican working on his and his family citizenship. He rented a business, it was successful so he purchased a building and completely designed and decorated the new business and moved into his new establishment.
He and his family have assimilated to the American culture while still keeping their culture. They have successfully followed the rules of immigration and are a great part of our community. They have English down great and are very happy with their children's schooling. Not too bad for a farming community in the boonies with a population of 5,000. He says this is nothing like it is in his home town in Mexico.
All most average American's want is to have the illegal activities (drugs, murder and such) of illegal immigrants stopped. We have not honored our America by allowing businesses to hire illegal immigrants. We have not honored our America by not following immigration laws. We are paying a heavy price for this illegal activity.
Is the wall the right way? who knows but something needs to be done. As a a farmer who has to maintain fences (good fences make good neighbors), I would bet most Texas ranchers would welcome a wall on a part of their land if it would help bring about order along the border.
Well, it is a waste of time and money. All that is really needed is to enforce the law, which we did until Reagan. It turns out:
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A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he:
1. Assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him to obtain employment, 2. Encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or 3. Knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.
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Just start telling those who hire illegals they get some jail time and the problem will quickly diminish. Yet, you need to ask yourself why this is not done! Answer: The oligarchs who run this country like a flooded labor market.
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Lulu wrote, "What does he think is going to happen to the workers at the machladoras he's going to shut down with his border taxes. Where does he think all these suddenly jobless Mexicans living on the border will go?"
Someone should have asked this "where they go" question when NAFTA put a million Mexican farmers out of business. Yet, more after the next question.
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Cha Cha asked, "What would happen if Mexico worked on and achieved its own economic development and didn't look to the U.S.?"
That is not going to happen! As we have seen for over thirty years, if any Latin American leader decided to put their country first - which means stopping America from exploiting them - the American government will do that thing they call "regime change." Going back to Reagan, what do you think that Iran-Contra thing was all about?