In order to clear a waiting list that was mounting up for some of the younger rooms, my center did a not-very-well- thought-out transition of a bunch of children: 1's room to 2's room, 2's room to PS, and several preschoolers (ranging from 3 years, 4 months to 4 years, 1 month) into my Pre-K program which is *supposed* to be only for children who a...See MoreIn order to clear a waiting list that was mounting up for some of the younger rooms, my center did a not-very-well- thought-out transition of a bunch of children: 1's room to 2's room, 2's room to PS, and several preschoolers (ranging from 3 years, 4 months to 4 years, 1 month) into my Pre-K program which is *supposed* to be only for children who are entering Kindergarten the following fall (although I started off the year with a small group with October birthdays, so the kindergarten next year thing isn't a hard and fast rule). The three year old came to me because he was on the verge of being disenrolled or pulled out by his parents because of his behavior. It runs the gamut from fairly age appropriate, energetic boy stuff like running around, climbing furniture, and using materials inappropriately, to hurting other children by hitting or knocking them down and jumping on them, to running away from teachers by leaving the classroom or playground. (It was the last one that was the last straw, because our policy is that if a child runs out of the room they have to go home--please don't ask why, because I don't know. Random zero tolerance gets on my nerves, and his parents weren't a big fan of it either since it affects their work attendance!) I'm known as the teacher who can fix behavior problems, so, YAY! Present for me...fix him! And I don't know why I'm having such a hard time with this, but I am. He's making me nuts to the point I'm having difficulty not showing it, which is just going to exacerbate the problem ("Heeheehee, look at the shade of red Teacher's face turns when I do this...let me see if I can do that again!"). I think part of the problem is that my room was in such a good place, and now it's turning chaotic, and I can't deal!
This child does okay during times of structure. During large group, he tends to invade people's space and can't sit still as long as we need him to, but our rug is overcrowded for our larger class size and he's 3 1/2, not 5 (new rug on the way, and he'll be 5 in a year and a half!). He is eager to participate in art, science, and sensory activities, as well as group games. He loves the cars and trucks in the block center and puzzles in the math center. He doesn't do so well during music and movement-- starts the running/climbing behaviors--so we keep him near us or hold his hand and that sometimes helps, but not always (but I hate making kids sit during times when they NEED to move). I figure maybe the music and all the other kids' energy during that time is overstimulating? But what to do???
The worst times are transitions. I have a consistent schedule, I give countdown warnings as we near the end of center time--including personal ones for him, and we use a consistent routine for clean-up and the down-time after meals/snacks...but still, he goes nuts and starts running around, diving over furniture, knocking things down, knocking people down...it's a mess. Possibly the same type trigger as music and movement time? We use clean-up songs on the CD player and the general volume of the room always goes up during clean up. And after meals, kids are kind of all over the place, cleaning up their area, washing up, using the bathroom before nap, walking around choosing books...mild degrees of chaos come with the territory. So, again, what to do??? The meals themselves are also challenging. He's a picky eater and doesn't want to BE at the table, much less sit there until other friends are beginning to finish...but I want him to sit there for at least a while so we can model the table manners, polite conversation, etc. and at least encourage him to try something that's on his plate. That's not the wrong thing to do, or is it?? Also, as soon as he gets up from the table, he starts running around, and my co-teacher and I need to 1) log precisely what each child ate on their communication form, 2) clean the bowls, wipe down the chairs, sanitize the table, and sweep, and 3) put out nap mats and nap items. When our attention is on any of those things, the negative behaviors start and escalate. Those three things HAVE to happen, they are not optional, they require both of us, and they all take time. ARGH!
I think the thing that has me most beside myself is that I'm *good* at wrangling this kind of kid...but he makes me feel like a failure. All of my usual tools just don't work...I have clear, positively stated expectations (adjusted for the fact that he is 3 1/2, not 5!) I give transition warnings and reminders of the expectations, I am trying desperately to catch him being good and give specific praise to him as well as praising the appropriate behavior of people near him rather than constantly correcting him, I am consistent with consequences, I am trying hard to pick my battles, I try to ignore minor behaviors (unsuccessfully, because he escalates and escalates and escalates and I really don't want to get fired because I "let" him get a concussion or break an arm or leg, nor will I let him hurt other children and that is his behavior of last resort, I've noticed), I try as often as possible to set him up as a "special helper"...none of it works! Every day, every transition time, same behaviors.
Sorry for the long post...I started to type and it just spewed out. Any input at all would be very much appreciated...even if it's just a "been there, dealt with that." Good thing tomorrow's Friday...I need a bit of space I think!
The past few weeks have gone a lot better. My rant here helped me get my frustration with the overall situation out, and my coteacher helped me be able to spend some time just observing the little guy. She is a joy to work with, and I love her to death! He was showing more inappropriate behavior with her in the mornings before I arrived than he did with me, so I decided to just go with the idea that it was meal avoidance. I suggested to her that as soon as she arrives to pick up the kids from the other classroom she should check in with him, say good morning, and tell him that it was almost time to clean up and move to the Pre-K room for breakfast, and he could choose whether he wanted to come to the table if it was food he liked or choose a puzzle to do if it wasn't food he liked, but he needed to listen to her words and follow directions and if he made bad choices, like running around or leaving the classroom or getting out other toys, he would need to come to the table. (Holy run-on sentence!) Then, when she got the kids down to our room, she'd remind him again, breakfast would be here soon, but he didn't have to come to the table, he could do a puzzle instead as long as he made good choices. And lo and behold, he made good choices, kept his body in the classroom and did puzzles or came to the table as he so desired...and that has continued to date. A similar approach hasn't worked so well leading up to lunchtime, because we're not allowed to make lunch optional for him so he can't bypass the table entirely. But if he comes to the table, puts some of each food on his plate, and sits nicely, I have been letting him get up before the other children and put out a few different bins of toys at the circle time rug for all the children to play with as they finish. He loves to be a helper! We've had mixed success...but I do follow through, and if he doesn't follow directions I let someone else choose the toy bins and he stays at the table a little longer (on the plus side, he clearly understands that I will follow through, because when I've had to keep him at the table, he listens to me explain why I have to do so, and he stays without argument until he is excused). I have also had some success with talking quietly with him as we observe the other children together. For example, at naptime, he has not been able to just go sit down on his mat and wait for a teacher to come pat his back. One afternoon after the kids were mostly settled, I dashed out for a potty break before my coteacher began her break and returned to the room to find him climbing the dress-up clothes rack. I got him down and sat down with him on my lap and I wondered aloud about how it seemed to be really hard for him to go to his mat at rest time. I pointed out the other boys in our class, who were in various states of resting: some almost asleep already, some still arranging pillow pets and blankets, some lying down but awake, one sitting up...but all were on their mats and quiet, and none of them needed to have a teacher sit next to them...they knew the right choice and made their bodies do the right thing. I told him that I was positive he could do that too, and we would work on it together. So I've been reminding him before sending him to his mat, let's see if he can go to his mat all by himself today and stay their quietly until I can come pat his back...again, mixed success, but progress in the right direction. As far as controlling his body at group times, since we got our new, larger rug he has been doing much better, and rarely has to sit with a teacher. Overall, things are much better than they were, and I have confidence we can make it work!
To answer some of your questions, TeachAnita...the director is supportive but her suggestions are impractical, do not apply, or are things we have tried. I don't feel that his behaviors, overall, warrant him being on a "behavior plan" (our last ditch effort before disenrolling). The running out of the classroom is bad, but it's more for effect than any true effort to escape or hide. He's not going out the front or back doors, just into the hallway, and it's not when we're not looking...only when we are! Honestly speaking though, the administration waits far too long to initiate the "behavior plan" process. There are lots of situations when children ARE being dangers to themselves or others that are ignored or glossed over until a teacher is truly at the end of her rope, and it shouldn't be that we. As a school, we should be more proactive in these situations. As for his parents, thankfully, their eyes are wide open to his behavior and they are supportive of me and my coteacher. I've gotten a couple very heartfelt apologies from them ("I'm so sorry he put you in that situation!") in response to various situations, and I think they appreciate that we are trying our best to be proactive and try a variety of approaches with him (as opposed to his previous teacher who, unfortunately, was and is at the end of her rope and wanted him to just be disenrolled already). We do work with Early Intervention...when the parents initiate the process. We are not able to call and say, "Help, we have this child who..."
On 5/13/12, TeachAnita wrote: > It has been nearly a month now, how is the class/child > functioning now? > > What type of support will the Director provide? > > In the past when I feel a disruptive change in my classroom I > have asked the Director to observe the classroom, am I missing > something that triggers inappropriate behavior. Our new > director has come in to work with a disruptive child, and then > would try to come by occassionally to check in with the child > at various times to say "Hi" and comment on appropriate > behaviors. > > Are the parents experiencing busy behavior with the child > (they may or may not be honest-but what have you observed at > arrival and departure times)? > > Have you requested the parents to observe (we have access to a > room where parents can watch through the mirror w/o being > seen)? > > Does your center work with Early Intervention, if not maybe it > is time to check into it? > > Back to Director support, what is the bottom line before > asking child to leave center, especially if child endangers > students, staff or self? Will the Director follow through? > > Best Wishes for calmness in the classroom. >
On 4/21/12, OP wrote: > He doesn't eat, period. His dad, in a conversation with my co-teacher, > said that when the child is hungry he gets out of control...but he just > won't eat. His mom is a nurse, and in a very brief conversation with > her yesterday afternoon, she blew it off with a breezy, "You know what > they say, they'll eat when they're hungry enough!" Thursday, he ate > nothing at school. She said he did not eat dinner on Thursday night. > Friday, she said he probably had a little cereal before school(but I > think dad got him ready and dropped him off, so she was just assuming > that was the case), and he ate one bite of Cheerios for me at breakfast > (the one who drops off packs snacks and a drink in a bag for the ride > home, and I have seen Cheerios in the snack bag, so I had said, "Oh, > look, it's Cheerios today, I know you like them!" and he shrugged and > took a single bite), nothing at lunch, and inhaled the animal cookies > at snack. He's a neat little guy, when he's not whirling around the > room like the Tasmanian Devil...I really want to figure out what will > work with him! > > On 4/21/12, nicole wrote: >> Glad you had a good day yesterday. Maybe it is all food related. >> Is the food provided by the school? May be he doesn't like it; if >> that is the case, may be his parents can send in food for him. >> Does he eat before he comes to school? May be he is not hungry. >> Please keep us posted. nicole
The SPACE SHUTTLE was big news this week since NASA transferred ownership to the Natl Air & Space Museum. Do you have any SPACE crafts? Songs? Gross motor activities? Thank you in advance.
hey guys, I am wondering how you guys teach drawing; I have kids in my class (prek -- special ed) who have goals to draw 3-5 recognizable pictures, and I have tried tracing or copying simple pictures, but they tend to draw the same thing (face). Do you think connect the dots is teaching drawing? thanks, nicole
I work with the same population and work on helping the kids "learn to draw", as well. (Drawing pictures that are recognizable is needed when our kids hit kindergarten, as it helps them prepare for writing as they "draw their story" before trying to write it out.) I do the "tracing" route early-on ... later on (when the kids know their shapes and can either make rough approximations thereof or trace around templates ... I start talking about and demonstrating how a square (or rectangle) and a triangle go together to make a house, how a rectangle (smaller) becomes a door or window ... you can make a tree using a tall rectangle and a circle ... two circles connected by a line or two can become a bicycle ...
I hope this helps a bit!
jeanne (aka "meeeha/ece/hi")
> > On 4/20/12, nicole wrote: >> hey guys, I am wondering how you guys teach drawing; I have >> kids in my class (prek -- special ed) who have goals to >> draw 3-5 recognizable pictures, and I have tried tracing or >> copying simple pictures, but they tend to draw the same >> thing (face). Do you think connect the dots is teaching >> drawing? thanks, nicole
nicolethanks guys, this is so helpful. Nicole On 5/08/12, meeeha/ece/hi wrote: > Aloha, Nicole -- > > I work with the same population and work on helping the kids > "learn to draw", as well. (Drawing pictures that are recognizable > is needed when our kids hit kindergarten, as it helps them prepare > for writing as they "draw their stor...See Morethanks guys, this is so helpful. Nicole On 5/08/12, meeeha/ece/hi wrote: > Aloha, Nicole -- > > I work with the same population and work on helping the kids > "learn to draw", as well. (Drawing pictures that are recognizable > is needed when our kids hit kindergarten, as it helps them prepare > for writing as they "draw their story" before trying to write it > out.) I do the "tracing" route early-on ... later on (when the > kids know their shapes and can either make rough approximations > thereof or trace around templates ... I start talking about and > demonstrating how a square (or rectangle) and a triangle go > together to make a house, how a rectangle (smaller) becomes a door > or window ... you can make a tree using a tall rectangle and a > circle ... two circles connected by a line or two can become a > bicycle ... > > I hope this helps a bit! > > jeanne (aka "meeeha/ece/hi") > >> >> On 4/20/12, nicole wrote: >>> hey guys, I am wondering how you guys teach drawing; I have >>> kids in my class (prek -- special ed) who have goals to >>> draw 3-5 recognizable pictures, and I have tried tracing or >>> copying simple pictures, but they tend to draw the same >>> thing (face). Do you think connect the dots is teaching >>> drawing? thanks, nicole
On 4/22/12, maureen wrote: > On 4/20/12, Barbara wrote: >> On 4/20/12, nicole wrote: >>> I am finding it hard to remember that it is about the child >>> and not about iep goals, curriculm, schedule, etc., anyone >>> else? >> >> >> Feel the same way! It's a shame. > > You know I was a Montessori pre school teacher for over 25 > years and I never felt that way. We had uninterrupted work (free > choice time) for three hours each morning and almost that much > time again for a full day class in the afternoon. We did our > outside time at the beginning of the day in order to not > interrupt the children's cycle, right before lunch and at the end > of the day. It worked very well in following the children's > needs. IEPs never seemed to much of an issue as most of the > things children would need (fine and gross motor, self care, etc) > were built into the curriculum and the children usually were able > to spend enough time each day on their needs with only occasional > guidance from the teachers. > > Since the curriculum has remained basically the same with a lot > of open ended possiblilities to meet the changing needs of the > children for over 100 years, once I had my training and then some > experience under my belt, I found that following the child was as > natural as one would want. I have worked in very large schools as > well as one room schools and I can honestly say that "scheduling" > had never been an issue. > > If you find you want to find that same peace in your teaching > experience, I would seriously suggest that you look into > Montessori. It is a great approach to working with young children > and is so adaptable to any child from special needs to gifted > and typical, any situation or school. I have always been so > thankful that I accidently found out about this approach through > my first child's school. It changed my life and my career.
On 4/23/12, nicole wrote: > Hi, it is funny that you wrote because I was wondering if I would > feel differently in a Montessori school. > > On 4/22/12, maureen wrote: >> On 4/20/12, Barbara wrote: >>> On 4/20/12, nicole wrote: >>>> I am finding it hard to remember that it is about the child >>>> and not about iep goals, curriculm, schedule, etc., anyone >>>> else? >>> >>> >>> Feel the same way! It's a shame. >> >> You know I was a Montessori pre school teacher for over 25 >> years and I never felt that way. We had uninterrupted work (free >> choice time) for three hours each morning and almost that much >> time again for a full day class in the afternoon. We did our >> outside time at the beginning of the day in order to not >> interrupt the children's cycle, right before lunch and at the end >> of the day. It worked very well in following the children's >> needs. IEPs never seemed to much of an issue as most of the >> things children would need (fine and gross motor, self care, etc) >> were built into the curriculum and the children usually were able >> to spend enough time each day on their needs with only occasional >> guidance from the teachers. >> >> Since the curriculum has remained basically the same with a lot >> of open ended possiblilities to meet the changing needs of the >> children for over 100 years, once I had my training and then some >> experience under my belt, I found that following the child was as >> natural as one would want. I have worked in very large schools as >> well as one room schools and I can honestly say that "scheduling" >> had never been an issue. >> >> If you find you want to find that same peace in your teaching >> experience, I would seriously suggest that you look into >> Montessori. It is a great approach to working with young children >> and is so adaptable to any child from special needs to gifted >> and typical, any situation or school. I have always been so >> thankful that I accidently found out about this approach through >> my first child's school. It changed my life and my career.
On 4/22/12, maureen wrote: > I must have over 30 CD's I have accumulated over the years. I donated > probably that many to my oldest granddaughter's teacher (first year > teacher - had nothing to start with) this year. I have to say that > consistently the all time favorite has been Jim Gill's yellow Cd "The > Sneezing Song and Other contagious tunes" That CD is loaded with all > sorts of catchy songs that are very entertaining to listen to as well > as move along with. I would say the oldest kids love the Washing > Machine song on that, but the poison ivy one and the Alabama, > Mississipi one is appealling, too. I remember a little five year old > boy asking for me to play the My Legs are Made of spaghetti song over > and over again. Really it is a great rainy day cd as there are so many > fun actions that go with most of them. I have seen Jim perform at least > three or four times in person and he has always played most of his > songs from that CD although he has had done more since. You can buy his > cds at any of his concerts (he is out of Chicago) but you can google > his name and get ordering info there. I have seen them and tons of > other CD's at the library so don't forget that resource! > It really isn't one you would play to get ready for bedtime though!
I'll "third" that suggestion! I have most of Jim Gill's cds, but the yellow one gets the most play. I also use "Super Simple Songs" cds everyday. Love them!
I am a second year pre-k teacher and a graduate student. In one of my recent classes, we discussed a lot about taking small steps to fight injustices in the education system today and that got me thinking about what I could do to help disadvantaged students.
I thought of the idea of providing resources to parents of preschool aged children that are unable (for whatever reason) to send their child to a preschool or pre- kindergarten program. My plan is to create a list of activities that parents can sit down and do with their children to promote early literacy and math skills.
This is where you come in! I am planning to bring baggies of homemade playdough to local libraries with a list of playdough activities that promote these early skills.
If you have a great activity that you use in your classroom that you think could be implemented by a parent with their child please share it with me. These activities should be something that can be done with playdough and are related to either early literacy skills or early math skills.
I'll be typing all of the best ideas up on index cards and laminating them with a recipe for homemade playdough and distributing them to families through public libraries. If you have any other suggestions for me I'd be happy to hear what you have to say!
pktchrOn 4/23/12, Hannah wrote: > Hi! This is my first time ever using a chat board, so bear > with me please. :-) > > I am a second year pre-k teacher and a graduate student. In > one of my recent classes, we discussed a lot about taking > small steps to fight injustices in the education system > today and that got me thinking about...See MoreOn 4/23/12, Hannah wrote: > Hi! This is my first time ever using a chat board, so bear > with me please. :-) > > I am a second year pre-k teacher and a graduate student. In > one of my recent classes, we discussed a lot about taking > small steps to fight injustices in the education system > today and that got me thinking about what I could do to > help disadvantaged students. > > I thought of the idea of providing resources to parents of > preschool aged children that are unable (for whatever > reason) to send their child to a preschool or pre- > kindergarten program. My plan is to create a list of > activities that parents can sit down and do with their > children to promote early literacy and math skills. > > This is where you come in! I am planning to bring baggies > of homemade playdough to local libraries with a list of > playdough activities that promote these early skills. > > If you have a great activity that you use in your classroom > that you think could be implemented by a parent with their > child please share it with me. These activities should be > something that can be done with playdough and are related > to either early literacy skills or early math skills. > > I'll be typing all of the best ideas up on index cards and > laminating them with a recipe for homemade playdough and > distributing them to families through public libraries. If > you have any other suggestions for me I'd be happy to hear > what you have to say! > > Thanks!
I'll give some thought to the play dough ideas (don't have time right now), but just wanted to say, what a GREAT idea! Love it, love it!
AuroraYOU FOUND prekpages.com !!! Isn't she FABULOUS!! I check this website often and also get updates by email (you check that you want them). I LOVE this teacher's ideas!!
Pre-kpages.com is a wonderful site, too, of course.
On 5/09/12, Aurora wrote: > YOU FOUND prekpages.com !!! > Isn't she FABULOUS!! I check this website often and also get > updates by email (you check that you want them). I LOVE this > teacher's ideas!! > > Aurora
Hello! Next year I will be moving from 4th grade to prek and I am so excited!! But where do I begin?? What do I need to work on this summer to be ready for the year? Any suggestions?
Just wondering if anyone has switched from Preschool to Kindergarten or who may have taught both grade levels before. Which did you enjoy most? Preschool or Kindergarten and why?
Our state dept of ed is working to suck the fun out of preschool just like it has K-2, but the other poster was correct: at least we have the flexibility that we can treat our students like CHILDREN and not like pre-first graders once the first 6 weeks have passed. I have often said that elementary and secondary teachers have no idea how hard preschool and kindergarten teachers work. Having said that, I've always thought that the hardest working teachers are the K teachers (followed very closely 1.) One day I may decide that I'm too old/ out of shape/ just tired of preschool, but I fear that making the switch will be like jumping on a treadmill set at full speed.
I LOVED both, but obviously there are positives and negatives for each. The big + for Pre-K is less standards with more time. I felt less rushed and could do more fun things. The down side was that I was dealing with a shorter attention span and it took much longer to teach concepts. They were also much more needy (buttoning, zipping, crying, tattling etc.)
The + for K is that they are much more independent, with longer attention spans. The downside: so many standards, so little time, constantly feeling rushed and having to cram in a zillion things in a short amount of time.
Plus many of the standards I felt were not age appropriate for more than half of my little ones. The class size was also much larger and many of them were just not ready for the rigors of K, which was all-day every day.
On 4/27/12, MsM wrote: > I love teaching both, and have taught both in a child care > center which is also licensed as a "private academic school" > through the state department of education in order to offer > kindergarten. For me personally, I feel under less pressure > when I am teaching pre-k, as I am this school year. For > example, one beautiful early spring day several weeks ago, *I* > had spring fever, and didn't want to be cooped up inside. So > we went outside with crayons and pencils and paper and > clipboards and spent the entire morning playing outside. Some > of the children did bark rubbings on the trees, some drew what > they saw outside, some drew whatever they wanted, and some > didn't touch any of the materials--they "just" played. I can > almost guarantee that at that point in the kindergarten school > year I would have been feeling the pressure of the upcoming > standardized testing we do, trying to get assessments done, > doing targeted interventions with the low kids...and would > have stayed inside to do the regular routine. Similarly, when > my kids discovered that the playground surface had eroded in > one area, revealing something hard and smooth and white-ish in > color, and they set to work digging it up with sticks and > brushing the dirt away gently with pine branches as they > discussed what it might be (a rock? a dinosaur bone? > treasure?)...if they had been kindergartners, I probably would > have rushed them inside at the end of the allotted 30 minutes > of outside play, rather than letting them continue to dig > until lunch. > > ...And yes, I know it should not be a problem to follow the > children's lead in kindergarten either, but the expectations > just *feel* different. > > > > On 4/27/12, Pre Teacher wrote: >> Just wondering if anyone has switched from Preschool to >> Kindergarten or who may have taught both grade levels >> before. Which did you enjoy most? Preschool or >> Kindergarten and why?
The past few weeks have gone a lot better. My rant here helped me get my frustration with the overall situation out, and my coteacher helped me be able to spend some time just observing the little guy. She is a joy to work with, and I love her to death! He was showing more inappropriate behavior wi...See More