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Some clever tips for working with hyperactive students

by Kathleen

Mar 23, 2009

Some clever tips for working with hyperactive students

From the Teachers.Net Classroom Management mailring, a collection of teachers' tips and techniques for working with "hyperactive" students (hyperlinked below).

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Leah Click below for a list

Mar 23, 2009

Question for Paula, Re: the Daily Five

by jenny/2/oh

Mar 23, 2009

Could you tell me the name of one of the CVC or CVCV phonics games that you use from reallygoodstuff? Thanks so much!

Paula On 3/23/09, jenny/2/oh wrote: > Could you tell me the name of one of the CVC or CVCV > phonics games that you use from reallygoodstuff? Thanks > so much!

The board games are called CVC Spelling Games Item #302610 for $30.95 (you get 6 board games Paula

Mar 23, 2009

jenny/2/oh nfm On 3/23/09, Paula wrote: > On 3/23/09, jenny/2/oh wrote: >> Could you tell me the name of one of the CVC or CVCV >> phonics games that you use from reallygoodstuff? Thanks >> so much! > > The board games are called CVC Spelling Games > Item #302610 for $30.95 (you get 6 board games > Paula

Mar 23, 2009

by Lyn

Mar 23, 2009

Anyone thinking about or planning to change careers? If so, why?

Gracie On 3/23/09, Lyn wrote: > Anyone thinking about or planning to change careers? If so, > why?

I have talked to a few teachers who were thinking about leaving teaching because of the stress and salary. In teaching, you have to be on the ball at all times. You have to be aware of what each child is doing most all of the time. No letting ...See More

Mar 23, 2009

Implicit Meaning Passages

by Goldie

Mar 23, 2009

Does anyone know where I could find some reading passages that we can practice implicit meaning? I have a few, but could use many more...that would be great!! Thanks to all those who respond! :)

I Have Who Has?

by rw

Mar 23, 2009

Does anyone know a website where one can make I Have Who Has? cards? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christy in TN This website has "I Have, Who Has?" cards for the dolch sight words. I haven't tried erasing her words and changing them, but you might could. Anyway, try the link and then scroll way down the page.

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On 3/25/09, Amethyst wrote: > On 3/23/09, rw wrote: >> Does anyone know a website where one can make I Have ...See More

Mar 25, 2009

Intimidated by a child's parents.......Need advice!

by TeachinNC

Mar 23, 2009

Earlier in the year I had a problem with a child's parents. They acted like rageaholics and had meltdowns on the phone with the guidance counselor and then later in a meeting with me and the principal. I had been telling them that their child had attention and focusing issues and they didn't listen to me instead saying that they took him to the doc...See MoreEarlier in the year I had a problem with a child's parents. They acted like rageaholics and had meltdowns on the phone with the guidance counselor and then later in a meeting with me and the principal. I had been telling them that their child had attention and focusing issues and they didn't listen to me instead saying that they took him to the doctor and the doctor said he was "bored". That closed the door on ADHD.

He's already repeated "K" and I teach first, so he won't retained. Today he did a terrible job with his 9 week's Reading test getting a 60%. I don't think he tried his best to be honest because he doesn't care. He put down answers that didn't make sense sometimes and didn't look answers up in the story booklet when I told the whole class that they could. Additionally, he got things wrong that we had reviewed just this morning!

I am sure that if he applied himself he could do a bit better, but education is probably not supported or made a priority at home. Additionally, he is about 4-6 months behind on his reading level because he was very behind at the beginning of the year and probably does very little at home (everytime I ask him if he read his basal story the night before, the answer is usually "no"). I was considering readministering a portion of the test with more one-on-one guidance because I believe he may have a disability (ADD or ADHD) that no one is willing to address. I was going to make a copy of the first test and then attach a copy of the second one and write a note to his mother telling her how I don't feel he performed up to his potential on the first test and had difficulty concentrating on it and how I tried to help him. My husband says I should not do that. He says that it isn't fair to the other children and that he won't get those kind of breaks in later grades.

Having a conference without an administrator is not a good idea at this point because she was seething hatred at the conference with the principal earlier in the year until the principal calmed her down. I am not willing to have one without one at this point. To show you the type of personalities I am dealing with: The other day her husband came to pick up the son and was cursing on a cell phone loudly in front of the kids waiting outside for pickups and another teacher complained to me about him (I was inside waiting for the parent and he said the "F" word very loudly in front of other students). This is the type of angry rageaholic/reactive people they are. Since our first conference went badly (that led to the meltdowns and the conference with the principal) I let her request a conference everytime conferences came up, and she hasn't. I don't ask her for one for obvious reasons. Please advise. What would you do?

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deb I follow the idea of 6 positives for 1 negative. I thought I was communicating that. Instead of saying your son is unable to complete work in a whole group, I thought I was communicating that you would phrase it positively:

This was done 10/10 one on one. This was done 7 / 10 in a small group. This was 1/10 in a large group. He completes h...See More

Mar 26, 2009

Jumping in late -- ncteach TeachinNC, hope you don't mind -- ncteach has been my handle for several years, although I haven't posted on the primary chatboard in quite a while!)

One thing I found useful in parent conferences were graphs I made showing reading (DRA), math, writing, and AR progress. They showed each child's current level (identified by number, which ch...See MoreTeachinNC, hope you don't mind -- ncteach has been my handle for several years, although I haven't posted on the primary chatboard in quite a while!)

One thing I found useful in parent conferences were graphs I made showing reading (DRA), math, writing, and AR progress. They showed each child's current level (identified by number, which changed from graph to graph, depending on how they did) compared to the expected level for that time of year. Each successive graph showed the growth of each student compared to their previous scores. The children were listed in order on each graph and highlighted for each particular child when I sent them home in report cards.

Once I set up the form on the computer, it didn't take too long to fill them in, and was well worth the time when I could show parents how their child's progress compared to where they should be and to the rest of the class. Each graph explained how the data was gathered and included a note saying "if your child's progress is significantly below expected levels he or she may be at risk for retention" so that parents would be aware from the beginning.

This may not help with the anger issue, but it is an easy way to show documentation as far as academic progress. "This is where your child scored compared to the rest of the class on XYZ assessment and this is where we expect students to be at this time of year."

I always praise any progress that has been made (no matter how small) and emphasize that students come at the beginning of the year on a wide range of levels. But I also say that these are the students your child will be going through school with and with whom they will be compared.

If the classwork shows a higher level of work, then that's a good sign -- praise that, but empahsize that in the upper grades, how the student does on the day of the test will be important. If the classwork shows a lower level of work, that is evidence that he or she is not working up to potential or that he/she may need more of a challenge.

On 3/23/09, TeachinNC wrote: > Earlier in the year I had a problem with a child's > parents. They acted like rageaholics and had meltdowns on > the phone with the guidance counselor and then later in a > meeting with me and the principal. I had been telling them > that their child had attention and focusing issues and > they didn't listen to me instead saying that they took him > to the doctor and the doctor said he was "bored". That > closed the door on ADHD. > > He's already repeated "K" and I teach first, so he won't > retained. Today he did a terrible job with his 9 week's > Reading test getting a 60%. I don't think he tried his > best to be honest because he doesn't care. He put down > answers that didn't make sense sometimes and didn't look > answers up in the story booklet when I told the whole > class that they could. Additionally, he got things wrong > that we had reviewed just this morning! > > I am sure that if he applied himself he could do a bit > better, but education is probably not supported or made a > priority at home. Additionally, he is about 4-6 months > behind on his reading level because he was very behind at > the beginning of the year and probably does very little at > home (everytime I ask him if he read his basal story the > night before, the answer is usually "no"). I was > considering readministering a portion of the test with > more one-on-one guidance because I believe he may have a > disability (ADD or ADHD) that no one is willing to > address. I was going to make a copy of the first test and > then attach a copy of the second one and write a note to > his mother telling her how I don't feel he performed up to > his potential on the first test and had difficulty > concentrating on it and how I tried to help him. My > husband says I should not do that. He says that it isn't > fair to the other children and that he won't get those > kind of breaks in later grades. > > Having a conference without an administrator is not a good > idea at this point because she was seething hatred at the > conference with the principal earlier in the year until > the principal calmed her down. I am not willing to have > one without one at this point. To show you the type of > personalities I am dealing with: The other day her husband > came to pick up the son and was cursing on a cell phone > loudly in front of the kids waiting outside for pickups > and another teacher complained to me about him (I was > inside waiting for the parent and he said the "F" word > very loudly in front of other students). This is the type > of angry rageaholic/reactive people they are. Since our > first conference went badly (that led to the meltdowns and > the conference with the principal) I let her request a > conference everytime conferences came up, and she hasn't. > I don't ask her for one for obvious reasons. Please > advise. What would you do?

Mar 27, 2009

1st grade Advanced Reading Group - Help!!

by Elena

Mar 24, 2009

Hi,

I will start working with a group of 8 advanced first grade readers next week. They are all reading/comprehending at a 3rd grade level or above. I have no idea what to do with them. I'll have them an hour a day for five days each week. I would really appreciate hearing some ideas of things to do with this group so that they continue t...See More

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paulaj Look up comprehension activities. I teach a high group of firsts. During reading, we read a part, and then discuss it. I use a large handprint for who, what, where/when, how, why, with one on writen each finger or thumb. This helps the students know the things they should tell about. I focus on who and what at first.

After each book, we do...See More

Mar 25, 2009

TeachinNC rint out readers from Reading A-Z slightly above their level and have them do a homogenous reading group...each person takes turns reading while the others point to the words and read in their minds. You will have to pay an approx. $80.00 subscription fee but it is worth it.

On 3/24/09, Elena wrote: > Hi, > > I will start working ...See More

Mar 25, 2009

Homeschool Teacher in Valdosta

by Wendy

Mar 24, 2009

Need a home school teacher for 1st grade in the fall (august) school year. We will provide everything.

Need a book: westward expansion/covered wagons, 4th gr level

by B/2/NY

Mar 24, 2009

Hello teachers!

I am working on a thematic unit on pioneer life/westward expansion and I need a new book for my high-achieving readers. It needs to be at a 4th grade level, and about covered wagons. (I have one picked out for life on the prairie.)

I already have the Laura Ingalls series but have decided not to use it, so many of...See More

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B/2/NY Thanks for the suggestions, folks, I reserved some of them and will pick them up from our library tomorrow.

5th grade teacher, if I taught older kids I would definitely take on the "teachable moment"... but I just think 7 year olds are too little (at least the ones in my class, they are very sheltered). I don't want to be the one that tea...See MoreThanks for the suggestions, folks, I reserved some of them and will pick them up from our library tomorrow.

5th grade teacher, if I taught older kids I would definitely take on the "teachable moment"... but I just think 7 year olds are too little (at least the ones in my class, they are very sheltered). I don't want to be the one that teaches them such an ugly word. Slavery, civil rights, Rosa Parks and Dr. King were all explored in our room, and the ugly truths felt like enough without that one ugly specific, which I know they will learn soon enough.

Thanks again, B

On 3/28/09, 5th Grade Teacher wrote: > I have used Bound for Oregon for years, and I discuss the "n" > word in chapter 8 prior to having the kids read that chapter > silently. If you read the author's note at the back it gives > a good explanation of why that word was used. Since Mary > Ellen Todd is related to Mary Todd Lincoln (the author's note > mentions that as well), we talk about slavery quite a bit at > this point. > > > On 3/24/09, B/2/NY wrote: >> Hello teachers! >> >> I am working on a thematic unit on pioneer life/westward >> expansion and I need a new book for my high-achieving >> readers. It needs to be at a 4th grade level, and about >> covered wagons. (I have one picked out for life on the >> prairie.) >> >> I already have the Laura Ingalls series but have decided >> not to use it, so many of the kids have read it/had it read >> to them and I want something new... >> >> We are using Sarah, Plain and Tall later in the year, so >> that won't work either. >> >> I ordered a book called Bound for Oregon but have decided >> not to use it because it introduces the N--- word, and I >> think my class is too young for an academic discussion >> about that. If it came up at school I would handle it, but >> I don't want to be the one that teaches it to them! >> >> If anyone is still reading, I am also trying to remember a >> book I read when I was a kid. It was about a girl that >> traveled west with her family to homestead, she was very >> afraid and thought if she could trade her uncle something >> precious for a lion's tooth charm he had, it would make her >> brave. He agreed that if she made an apple dumpling from >> her own apple tree he would trade with her. The uncle's >> name was Romeo. I remember the girl had a bossy sister >> named, I think, Miney, and she called the apple tree Miss >> Appleseed... does anyone remember this book? I can't find >> it anywhere... >> >> Thanks for any suggestions you can offer! >> >> --B

Mar 29, 2009

5th Grade Teacher Have you thought about the Russell Freedman books? They are non fiction, and the photographs are amazing. I know there is one about children of the west as well as several about native american children.

On 3/29/09, B/2/NY wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, folks, I reserved some of them and > will pick them up from our library tom...See MoreHave you thought about the Russell Freedman books? They are non fiction, and the photographs are amazing. I know there is one about children of the west as well as several about native american children.

On 3/29/09, B/2/NY wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, folks, I reserved some of them and > will pick them up from our library tomorrow. > > 5th grade teacher, if I taught older kids I would definitely take > on the "teachable moment"... but I just think 7 year olds are too > little (at least the ones in my class, they are very sheltered). > I don't want to be the one that teaches them such an ugly word. > Slavery, civil rights, Rosa Parks and Dr. King were all explored > in our room, and the ugly truths felt like enough without that > one ugly specific, which I know they will learn soon enough. > > Thanks again, B > > > On 3/28/09, 5th Grade Teacher wrote: >> I have used Bound for Oregon for years, and I discuss the "n" >> word in chapter 8 prior to having the kids read that chapter >> silently. If you read the author's note at the back it gives >> a good explanation of why that word was used. Since Mary >> Ellen Todd is related to Mary Todd Lincoln (the author's note >> mentions that as well), we talk about slavery quite a bit at >> this point. >> >> >> On 3/24/09, B/2/NY wrote: >>> Hello teachers! >>> >>> I am working on a thematic unit on pioneer life/westward >>> expansion and I need a new book for my high-achieving >>> readers. It needs to be at a 4th grade level, and about >>> covered wagons. (I have one picked out for life on the >>> prairie.) >>> >>> I already have the Laura Ingalls series but have decided >>> not to use it, so many of the kids have read it/had it read >>> to them and I want something new... >>> >>> We are using Sarah, Plain and Tall later in the year, so >>> that won't work either. >>> >>> I ordered a book called Bound for Oregon but have decided >>> not to use it because it introduces the N--- word, and I >>> think my class is too young for an academic discussion >>> about that. If it came up at school I would handle it, but >>> I don't want to be the one that teaches it to them! >>> >>> If anyone is still reading, I am also trying to remember a >>> book I read when I was a kid. It was about a girl that >>> traveled west with her family to homestead, she was very >>> afraid and thought if she could trade her uncle something >>> precious for a lion's tooth charm he had, it would make her >>> brave. He agreed that if she made an apple dumpling from >>> her own apple tree he would trade with her. The uncle's >>> name was Romeo. I remember the girl had a bossy sister >>> named, I think, Miney, and she called the apple tree Miss >>> Appleseed... does anyone remember this book? I can't find >>> it anywhere... >>> >>> Thanks for any suggestions you can offer! >>> >>> --B

Mar 29, 2009

Need stories for inferences....desperately!!

by Goldie

Mar 24, 2009

Does anyone know where I could find some reading passages that we can practice inferencing? I have a few, but need many more...that would be great!! Thanks to all those who respond! :)

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lynne3 On 3/24/09, Infer wrote: > What grade? > Have you tried doing riddles? > I did that when I kicked off inferring in my classroom. I did > animal riddles, I did location riddles, I did emotion riddles. > They had to infer using the clues I gave in the riddles. > It was lots of fun. > > I also look for images online, print them...See More

Mar 25, 2009

mm I use the Mystery Of harris Burdick. it is just pictures but it is great for referencing

On 3/25/09, lynne3 wrote: > > > > On 3/24/09, Infer wrote: >> What grade? >> Have you tried doing riddles? >> I did that when I kicked off inferring in my classroom. I did >> animal riddles, I did location riddles, I...See More

Mar 28, 2009

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