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What Are We Fighting For?

by Hardy Parkerson, J.D.

Jun 10, 2009

What Are We Fightin' For? by Hardy Parkerson

O they took me out of school And sent me up to Fort Leonard Wood. They taught me about Charlie And how he was no good.

They taught me how to shoot a gun And how to win the War, But they never, ever told me What we were fightin' for.

How many teachers incarcerated?

by John

Jun 17, 2009

Can anyone help? - I am doing research and need to know how many school teachers are currently incarcerated in the U.S.

Any statistics and sources that anyone can provide would be great.

by Alexandra

Jun 19, 2009

I find it astonishing that the very institutions that stand for freedom and diversity of thought -- our colleges and universities -- now seek to ban certain types of personal relations between adults.

What is so special about the relationship between a graduate student or professor and an adult student? Certainly the power of the former ov...See More

bernoulli On 6/19/09, Alexandra wrote: > I find it astonishing that the very institutions that stand > for freedom and diversity of thought -- our colleges and > universities -- now seek to ban certain types of personal > relations between adults. > > What is so special about the relationship between a > graduate student or professor and...See MoreOn 6/19/09, Alexandra wrote: > I find it astonishing that the very institutions that stand > for freedom and diversity of thought -- our colleges and > universities -- now seek to ban certain types of personal > relations between adults. > > What is so special about the relationship between a > graduate student or professor and an adult student? > Certainly the power of the former over the latter is > trivial compared with the power that, say, a factory > manager has over an assembly-line worker. Why have our > colleges and universities gone far beyond other > environments in proscribing certain relationships? > > The tone in which this issue is discussed is demeaning to > women in that it assumes a relationship between a female > student and a male faculty member must be sinister. If the > young women of today are so unable to reject unwanted > advances from faculty members (who, after all, can only > give them a low grade), how will they fare once they > graduate and encounter men who have real power over them? > > My husband and I met at the University of Chicago when I > was a student and he an associate professor. Our 11-year- > old daughter would find it incredible that a relationship > like ours could have consequences today if brought to the > university's attention

You did not say what institution(s) you were talking about. As far as I know, faculty can date students at most universities, but it is HIGHLY discouraged.

Sexual harassment laws are the main issue here. After having the training at my university it was clear that the person being accused is guilty until proven innocent. You put your job and career at risk if something were to ever go wrong with the relationship. The biggest threat to the job security as a professor is being accused of sexual harassment. Risky behavior!

That being said, I know at least three couples where they met when the woman was a student in the man's class (different universities). Nothing negative ever happened on campus as a result. Two couples are still married and couple eventually divorced.

Jun 19, 2009

by Ksenia

Jun 21, 2009

First off, I know this is probably the wrong forum to post this message, but it didn't really seem to belong in any of the forums-- I apologize.

I'll just jump right in. I'm a 22-year old college student, and this summer I took an English class from a wonderful professor who happens to be exactly 31 years my senior (53). It was a small cla...See MoreFirst off, I know this is probably the wrong forum to post this message, but it didn't really seem to belong in any of the forums-- I apologize.

I'll just jump right in. I'm a 22-year old college student, and this summer I took an English class from a wonderful professor who happens to be exactly 31 years my senior (53). It was a small class, so I got many chances to interact with "Professor G." I found him to be a very intelligent, funny and interesting person, and a few weeks into the semester, I realized I couldn't get him off my mind. I went to many of his office hours under the guise of "needing help" with assignments, never missed a single lecture, stayed at class late to talk to him, etc.

Professor G always seemed to welcome my presence and enjoy our conversations. He complimented my writing many times during class and even called a couple of my poems and short stories some of the best works he's ever received. (Yes, I was floating on clouds after that! ) Two weeks ago, I was talking to him during his office hours and he mentioned that the other students really look up to me and think I'm so smart and pretty. I know I shouldn't read anything into that comment, but at the same time I couldn't help but wonder if someone had actually told him that-- or if it was his own guess..?

On Wednesday, our last day of class, Professor G gave me a book that he had mentioned a couple times over the course of the semester and urged me to read. I hadn't had time to pick it up yet, and he knew this, and so he went out and bought me a copy. I was so happy! Every nice gesture he has made to me, every compliment he has paid.....I treasure them and cling to them with my whole heart. --It's really very pathetic.

Now-- Professor G has a wife and 2 sons, and I know he is only interested me as an excellent student, nothing more. I know this, yet I can't seem to stop thinking about him.....it's been nearly three days since school let out, yet his face is the last thing I picture before I fall asleep, I find myself writing his name absentmindedly on papers, I yearn to talk to him again. (By the way, this is not a superficial attraction. Professor G is by no stretch of imagination what one might label "hot." He resembles Robin Williams much more than he does Richard Gere.)

It's gotten to the point where I'm scaring myself with my "obsession" with this man. I know this crush is largely based on fantasy, and I have absolutely no desire or intention to break up his marriage-- not that I'd fool myself into thinking that I even could in the first place! I know a romantic relationship between us is wholly impossible. I really can't figure out what's wrong with me. Why have I become so impossibly drawn to this man? I'm sure this crush is unhealthy and probably makes me out to be some sort of insane little girl to those of you who're reading this, and believe me, if I could kill these feelings, I would.

I've written this embarrassing message because I need help/advice....I'm driving myself crazy by moping around thinking of Professor G every day. I go out and have fun with my friends, but still, he's always there lurking in the back of my mind. I must stop this! Please help, in any way possible. I'm much too embarrassed to discuss this issue with either family or friends.

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A LOL!!! Ksenia, i find it hilarious how you reacted to Jeff's response to you. He was trying to be helpful and you took it the wrong way. Makes me think you are still a child..

On 6/23/09, Ksenia wrote: > Dear Jeff, > > I do not find it "too difficult" but am afraid it may be like > that for him. I do not need to go to counselin...See MoreLOL!!! Ksenia, i find it hilarious how you reacted to Jeff's response to you. He was trying to be helpful and you took it the wrong way. Makes me think you are still a child..

On 6/23/09, Ksenia wrote: > Dear Jeff, > > I do not find it "too difficult" but am afraid it may be like > that for him. I do not need to go to counseling but > nevertheless, thanks for worrying about me so much. I believe i > would never even develop this crush if it weren't for the way > you treats me....he has initiated this. I know it. > > On 6/23/09, Jeff wrote: >> I know what a few others said, but I like to give the benefit >> of the doubt. Is it really so far fetched that a college >> student would have a crush on one of her professors? It >> happens. Remember, college freshmen are usually 18, 19, 20 >> years old, they are still basically adolescents with all the >> crazy hormones that entails. In this case she says she is 22, >> it isn't completely unheard of for someone in their 20's to be >> interested in someone in their 50's (though I'm sure there >> would be a more obvious board to post on than here). >> >> So, to the OP: >> >> I would treat this like any other crush you can't pursue. I'm >> sure you've had interests in men that just weren't possible, >> how did you deal with those? >> >> College isn't high school. It is normal for professors to >> start to develop friendships with some of their students. >> Heck, I was in my mid-20s when I went back to college, some of >> my professors were my age (or even a tad younger by the time I >> graduated). You are an adult, they are adults, and if you are >> majoring in their subject you probably have some interests in >> common. So, just as you can be friends with a boss (someone >> else you can be social with despite having a relationship with >> an imbalance of power in one aspect of your lives) you can have >> a friendship with a professor. It is likely he was just being >> friendly, and even if he is interested he has a family and >> probably won't return any advances (so don't do it). >> >> If you find it too difficult, you should probably go to the >> school counseling center to talk to someone. They aren't just >> there for major mental illness or anxiety, they can help with >> more mild "life issues" such as an inappropriate crush (a >> married man) that you are having trouble controlling. >> >> >> On 6/21/09, Ksenia wrote: >>> First off, I know this is probably the wrong forum to post >>> this message, but it didn't really seem to belong in any of >>> the forums-- I apologize. >>> >>> I'll just jump right in. I'm a 22-year old college student, >>> and this summer I took an English class from a wonderful >>> professor who happens to be exactly 31 years my senior >>> (53). It was a small class, so I got many chances to >>> interact with "Professor G." I found him to be a very >>> intelligent, funny and interesting person, and a few weeks >>> into the semester, I realized I couldn't get him off my >>> mind. I went to many of his office hours under the guise >>> of "needing help" with assignments, never missed a single >>> lecture, stayed at class late to talk to him, etc. >>> >>> Professor G always seemed to welcome my presence and enjoy >>> our conversations. He complimented my writing many times >>> during class and even called a couple of my poems and short >>> stories some of the best works he's ever received. (Yes, I >>> was floating on clouds after that! ) Two weeks ago, I was >>> talking to him during his office hours and he mentioned >>> that the other students really look up to me and think I'm >>> so smart and pretty. I know I shouldn't read anything into >>> that comment, but at the same time I couldn't help but >>> wonder if someone had actually told him that-- or if it was >>> his own guess..? >>> >>> On Wednesday, our last day of class, Professor G gave me a >>> book that he had mentioned a couple times over the course >>> of the semester and urged me to read. I hadn't had time to >>> pick it up yet, and he knew this, and so he went out and >>> bought me a copy. I was so happy! Every nice gesture he has >>> made to me, every compliment he has paid.....I treasure >>> them and cling to them with my whole heart. --It's really >>> very pathetic. >>> >>> Now-- Professor G has a wife and 2 sons, and I know he is >>> only interested me as an excellent student, nothing more. I >>> know this, yet I can't seem to stop thinking about >>> him.....it's been nearly three days since school let out, >>> yet his face is the last thing I picture before I fall >>> asleep, I find myself writing his name absentmindedly on >>> papers, I yearn to talk to him again. (By the way, this is >>> not a superficial attraction. Professor G is by no stretch >>> of imagination what one might label "hot." He resembles >>> Robin Williams much more than he does Richard Gere.) >>> >>> It's gotten to the point where I'm scaring myself with >>> my "obsession" with this man. I know this crush is largely >>> based on fantasy, and I have absolutely no desire or >>> intention to break up his marriage-- not that I'd fool >>> myself into thinking that I even could in the first place! >>> I know a romantic relationship between us is wholly >>> impossible. I really can't figure out what's wrong with me. >>> Why have I become so impossibly drawn to this man? I'm sure >>> this crush is unhealthy and probably makes me out to be >>> some sort of insane little girl to those of you who're >>> reading this, and believe me, if I could kill these >>> feelings, I would. >>> >>> I've written this embarrassing message because I need >>> help/advice....I'm driving myself crazy by moping around >>> thinking of Professor G every day. I go out and have fun >>> with my friends, but still, he's always there lurking in >>> the back of my mind. I must stop this! Please help, in any >>> way possible. I'm much too embarrassed to discuss this >>> issue with either family or friends. >>>

Jun 24, 2009

suggestion to OP from Pixie If you are still in the throes of this infatuation, and hopefully you have not acted on it, watch the terrific movie called Moonstruck, starring Cher and Nicholas Cage. Pay close attention to the scenes of the college professor, played by John Mahoney, with his dates, and then with Olympia Dukakis, who plays Cher's mom, in the restaurant. This char...See MoreIf you are still in the throes of this infatuation, and hopefully you have not acted on it, watch the terrific movie called Moonstruck, starring Cher and Nicholas Cage. Pay close attention to the scenes of the college professor, played by John Mahoney, with his dates, and then with Olympia Dukakis, who plays Cher's mom, in the restaurant. This characterization may give you a different perspective on the guy you have the crush on. If the movie doesn't wake you up, imagine how you would feel later if you got involved with this guy and his wife (mother of his children) found out. If you have a good moral sense, you probably would feel like you and he both are pretty darn sleazy. Remember, what separates the good from the bad people often is whether they have the strength to resist acting on inappropriate feelings, or, instead are weak and succumb to their emotions (and hormones).

On 6/24/09, A wrote: > LOL!!! Ksenia, i find it hilarious how you reacted to Jeff's > response to you. He was trying to be helpful and you took it the > wrong way. Makes me think you are still a child.. > > > > On 6/23/09, Ksenia wrote: >> Dear Jeff, >> >> I do not find it "too difficult" but am afraid it may be like >> that for him. I do not need to go to counseling but >> nevertheless, thanks for worrying about me so much. I believe i >> would never even develop this crush if it weren't for the way >> you treats me....he has initiated this. I know it. >> >> On 6/23/09, Jeff wrote: >>> I know what a few others said, but I like to give the benefit >>> of the doubt. Is it really so far fetched that a college >>> student would have a crush on one of her professors? It >>> happens. Remember, college freshmen are usually 18, 19, 20 >>> years old, they are still basically adolescents with all the >>> crazy hormones that entails. In this case she says she is 22, >>> it isn't completely unheard of for someone in their 20's to be >>> interested in someone in their 50's (though I'm sure there >>> would be a more obvious board to post on than here). >>> >>> So, to the OP: >>> >>> I would treat this like any other crush you can't pursue. I'm >>> sure you've had interests in men that just weren't possible, >>> how did you deal with those? >>> >>> College isn't high school. It is normal for professors to >>> start to develop friendships with some of their students. >>> Heck, I was in my mid-20s when I went back to college, some of >>> my professors were my age (or even a tad younger by the time I >>> graduated). You are an adult, they are adults, and if you are >>> majoring in their subject you probably have some interests in >>> common. So, just as you can be friends with a boss (someone >>> else you can be social with despite having a relationship with >>> an imbalance of power in one aspect of your lives) you can have >>> a friendship with a professor. It is likely he was just being >>> friendly, and even if he is interested he has a family and >>> probably won't return any advances (so don't do it). >>> >>> If you find it too difficult, you should probably go to the >>> school counseling center to talk to someone. They aren't just >>> there for major mental illness or anxiety, they can help with >>> more mild "life issues" such as an inappropriate crush (a >>> married man) that you are having trouble controlling. >>> >>> >>> On 6/21/09, Ksenia wrote: >>>> First off, I know this is probably the wrong forum to post >>>> this message, but it didn't really seem to belong in any of >>>> the forums-- I apologize. >>>> >>>> I'll just jump right in. I'm a 22-year old college student, >>>> and this summer I took an English class from a wonderful >>>> professor who happens to be exactly 31 years my senior >>>> (53). It was a small class, so I got many chances to >>>> interact with "Professor G." I found him to be a very >>>> intelligent, funny and interesting person, and a few weeks >>>> into the semester, I realized I couldn't get him off my >>>> mind. I went to many of his office hours under the guise >>>> of "needing help" with assignments, never missed a single >>>> lecture, stayed at class late to talk to him, etc. >>>> >>>> Professor G always seemed to welcome my presence and enjoy >>>> our conversations. He complimented my writing many times >>>> during class and even called a couple of my poems and short >>>> stories some of the best works he's ever received. (Yes, I >>>> was floating on clouds after that! ) Two weeks ago, I was >>>> talking to him during his office hours and he mentioned >>>> that the other students really look up to me and think I'm >>>> so smart and pretty. I know I shouldn't read anything into >>>> that comment, but at the same time I couldn't help but >>>> wonder if someone had actually told him that-- or if it was >>>> his own guess..? >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, our last day of class, Professor G gave me a >>>> book that he had mentioned a couple times over the course >>>> of the semester and urged me to read. I hadn't had time to >>>> pick it up yet, and he knew this, and so he went out and >>>> bought me a copy. I was so happy! Every nice gesture he has >>>> made to me, every compliment he has paid.....I treasure >>>> them and cling to them with my whole heart. --It's really >>>> very pathetic. >>>> >>>> Now-- Professor G has a wife and 2 sons, and I know he is >>>> only interested me as an excellent student, nothing more. I >>>> know this, yet I can't seem to stop thinking about >>>> him.....it's been nearly three days since school let out, >>>> yet his face is the last thing I picture before I fall >>>> asleep, I find myself writing his name absentmindedly on >>>> papers, I yearn to talk to him again. (By the way, this is >>>> not a superficial attraction. Professor G is by no stretch >>>> of imagination what one might label "hot." He resembles >>>> Robin Williams much more than he does Richard Gere.) >>>> >>>> It's gotten to the point where I'm scaring myself with >>>> my "obsession" with this man. I know this crush is largely >>>> based on fantasy, and I have absolutely no desire or >>>> intention to break up his marriage-- not that I'd fool >>>> myself into thinking that I even could in the first place! >>>> I know a romantic relationship between us is wholly >>>> impossible. I really can't figure out what's wrong with me. >>>> Why have I become so impossibly drawn to this man? I'm sure >>>> this crush is unhealthy and probably makes me out to be >>>> some sort of insane little girl to those of you who're >>>> reading this, and believe me, if I could kill these >>>> feelings, I would. >>>> >>>> I've written this embarrassing message because I need >>>> help/advice....I'm driving myself crazy by moping around >>>> thinking of Professor G every day. I go out and have fun >>>> with my friends, but still, he's always there lurking in >>>> the back of my mind. I must stop this! Please help, in any >>>> way possible. I'm much too embarrassed to discuss this >>>> issue with either family or friends. >>>>

Jul 4, 2009

Remembering Student Names

by SSpil

Jun 27, 2009

I am teaching a community college class in the fall and I am embarrassed to admit that remembering names is not a gift I possess. Currently there are 27 students signed up for the class with a possibility of 44. I know it's not as crucial to learn the names of all my students in a college level class as if I were teaching small children, but I do t...See More

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Steve My wife sees 600+ kids a week and knows all their names. I, on the other hand, have trouble with my 300 a week and I see them for 7 years (Band Director). I normally get them by the 2nd year I have them but still occasionally have trouble. I have the most trouble with the quiet students. The loudmouths I can't forget.

On 7/08/09, SSpil wr...See More

Jul 20, 2009

Nora Go out of your way to get to know your students. The more you can get to know them the better you will do at remembering their names. It helps if you can have them write an Introductory Letter to you and tell them something about themselves and why they are taking the course. You'll then associate the name with the motivations they have.

O...See More

Aug 21, 2009

by anon4this

Jul 16, 2009

How are you supposed to get your Master's Degree to teach at a local college when the only 2 local colleges you could attend don't offer a Master's in that area?

answer On 7/16/09, anon4this wrote: > How are you supposed to get your Master's Degree to teach > at a local college when the only 2 local colleges you > could attend don't offer a Master's in that area?

Attend a college that isn't local either by long distance commuting (if the distance is less than 2-3 hrs away) or via distance learnin...See More

Jul 16, 2009

Kate Go to a university like practically all faculty members took the time to do.

On 7/16/09, anon4this wrote: > How are you supposed to get your Master's Degree to teach > at a local college when the only 2 local colleges you > could attend don't offer a Master's in that area?

Jul 21, 2009

Psuedo-Geography

by Brian

Jul 18, 2009

I noticed a lot of you talking about law school, but I didn't take time to read the threads. However, that is something of interest to me, but since I don't really want to practice law I see no reason to pursue that venue.

At any rate, I'm looking for perhaps a career change and geography has always interested me. Is there any work in the...See More

Brian On 7/18/09, Brian wrote: > I noticed a lot of you talking about law school, but I > didn't take time to read the threads. However, that is > something of interest to me, but since I don't really want > to practice law I see no reason to pursue that venue. > > At any rate, I'm looking for perhaps a career change and > geography ...See More

Jul 23, 2009

Kate On 7/23/09, Brian wrote: > On 7/18/09, Brian wrote: >> I noticed a lot of you talking about law school, but I >> didn't take time to read the threads. However, that is >> something of interest to me, but since I don't really want >> to practice law I see no reason to pursue that venue. >> >> At any rate, I'm l...See More

Jul 27, 2009

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It's time for us to fly, Christian teachers

by Tony Collins

Jul 20, 2009

To all teachers, everywhere. I ask you to look closely at what America has become. Whether you are willing to admit it or not America has become the devils playground. Every wicked imagination of the human heart can be found right in our own city and state. We have become a stench in the nostrils of our creator and his wrath will not be contained m...See More

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Ellena On 7/20/09, Tony Collins wrote: > To all teachers, everywhere. I ask you to look closely at > what America has become. Whether you are willing to admit it > or not America has become the devils playground. Every > wicked imagination of the human heart can be found right in > our own city and state. We have become a stench in the >...See More

Aug 16, 2009

Ellena On 7/20/09, Tony Collins wrote: > To all teachers, everywhere. I ask you to look closely at > what America has become. Whether you are willing to admit it > or not America has become the devils playground. Every > wicked imagination of the human heart can be found right in > our own city and state. We have become a stench in the >...See More

Aug 16, 2009

Adjunct Interviews

by Hopeful

Jul 21, 2009

I have a scheduled interview for an adjunt position at a local CC. My question is.. what should I expect during the interview? I have been doing interviews at the high school level and am sure the questions will be quite different. The setting is at a job fair, so that is adding another unexpected element. Any helpful suggestions or advice is welco...See More

rw Things like:

*Why do you want to work here? *What is your understanding of community college students? (their needs, situations, etc.) *Strategies for teaching *How to help struggling writers *Strategies for working with those learning English as a second/third language

The CC I worked at was concerned that I understand many of th...See More

Jul 24, 2009

OP Thanks for the response. I had overlooked the ESL and returning to school aspect. Academically I am well qualified (med. doctor looking to teach A&P/Bio), so hopefully this works out to get me started. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Jul 27, 2009

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