Anyway, I usually try to ignore these kinds of outbursts in class by telling the student to bring up such matters after class with me and not to interrupt the class session. And that's what I did this time. But I'm having a bad day, and this one student really got to me.
What if all the students feel the same way, that the activity was pointless? This student acted out of disrespect and is probably going to give me problems the whole semester, but what if he touched on some truth about my teaching? I've always gotten good evaluations, but what if I'm just not cut out to be a college instructor? What if I've been fooling myself all this time? (I'm a new instructor, been teaching about 4 years). What if I'm a horrible instructor and not fit to teach English? I know I'm jumping to conclusions based on this one activity and one student, but I tend to question myself constantly, and if this student felt this one activity was pointless, perhaps the whole class is pointless (the way I teach it that is).
NancyOn 10/12/10, Nancy wrote:I also teach freshman level composition. I do not use activities to get students started. Instead, I have had students read essays such as "Writing is Not a McDonald's Hamburger." We discuss the ideas in the essays. However, when it comes to a writing assignment, I usually share one of my own essays. For example, when stude...See MoreOn 10/12/10, Nancy wrote:I also teach freshman level composition. I do not use activities to get students started. Instead, I have had students read essays such as "Writing is Not a McDonald's Hamburger." We discuss the ideas in the essays. However, when it comes to a writing assignment, I usually share one of my own essays. For example, when students wrote a personal essay, I shared one of my own. After students have written a rough draft, I provide them with a "Peer Edit" sheet. Over time, they realize that editing is not in the clean-up- work: proofreading for grammatical and spelling errors. All semester, I talk about the nitty-gritty of real editing: scrapping the entire project, getting rid of sentences, paragraphs; adding paragraphs, etc. They learn by doing. One of the first things we discuss is that getting started means just writing. I don't know what area you teach in, but you may want to scrap the "getting started" activities. And don't doubt yourself. I know how students--even those who have graduated high school--can be rude and obnoxious. I had similar encounters when I started teaching post-high school. I questioned myself, especially since I had taught middle and high school English for over a decade before I started teaching in a college. I would not trade my experience with post-grads for all the world! The day will come when you laugh remembering each of your brazen students. And yes, depending on the kind of day you are having often determines how much you take the comments to heart! > On 8/27/10, Maria wrote: >> I teach a freshman level composition course, and today one >> of my students started complaining about the activity I had >> them do on how to "get started" when writing an essay. >> Basically the student said the activity was pointless and >> took on an attitude of arrogance proclaiming that he >> already knew everything about writing and didn't need me to >> go over what he learned in high school. I put together the >> activity based on semesters of having students tell me the >> most difficult part of writing an essay is simply "getting >> started." >> >> Anyway, I usually try to ignore these kinds of outbursts in >> class by telling the student to bring up such matters after >> class with me and not to interrupt the class session. And >> that's what I did this time. But I'm having a bad day, and >> this one student really got to me. >> >> What if all the students feel the same way, that the >> activity was pointless? This student acted out of >> disrespect and is probably going to give me problems the >> whole semester, but what if he touched on some truth about >> my teaching? I've always gotten good evaluations, but what >> if I'm just not cut out to be a college instructor? What if >> I've been fooling myself all this time? (I'm a new >> instructor, been teaching about 4 years). What if I'm a >> horrible instructor and not fit to teach English? I know >> I'm jumping to conclusions based on this one activity and >> one student, but I tend to question myself constantly, and >> if this student felt this one activity was pointless, >> perhaps the whole class is pointless (the way I teach it >> that is). >> >> Just feeling blue today.
If we think that every activity we give an entire class is going to be meaningful to the entire class... we've got another think coming. If your entire class walked into a doctor's office all with strep throat, would one antibiotic in the same dose work for all of them?
No. Just as no one assignment is going to work for all your students. And this student had the bravery - if no tact- to tell you that it wasn't working for him.
So now like Young Goodman Brown you think it's everybody. How are your evaluations? I trust your school does them because most do. What do they say?
I know and likely you too people who've taught their entire career but never taught well - at all. There are bad teachers out there.
I handle such matters by inviting discussion on it - if you really want a shot of the truth, ask for it but be open to it though that can be hard. There's nothing wrong and everything right with being reflective about your teaching.
> > > What if all the students feel the same way, that the > activity was pointless?
Usually they'll do it anyway - they don't want to upset or anger the person who's giving out the grades.
This student acted out of > disrespect - whoa, was it that? Is yours a silent college classroom? Or did his frustration get the better of him? What if felt that way about every assignment you gave?
and is probably going to give me problems the > whole semester, but what if he touched on some truth about > my teaching?
What if indeed.
I've always gotten good evaluations, but what > if I'm just not cut out to be a college instructor?
If you've always gotten good evaluations, then what is all this angst about?
What if > I've been fooling myself all this time? (I'm a new > instructor, been teaching about 4 years).
If your evaluations are positive, that says a lot. Your post actually is quite confusing. No teacher is the right teacher for every student and there's no shame or blame in that. If you need every student to love your teaching to feel confident about your teaching, it's then not really your teaching we're talking about.
What if I'm a > horrible instructor and not fit to teach English? I know > I'm jumping to conclusions based on this one activity and > one student, but I tend to question myself constantly, and > if this student felt this one activity was pointless, > perhaps the whole class is pointless (the way I teach it > that is). > A lot of what we do in education - if you think about it - is process not outcome. > Just feeling blue today.
I sit with book in hand and read alone And think of Thomas Wolfe, who now has gone And left us with those books that are so great; And since I can't go home, I now must wait.
But while I wait, I'll sit and read more Wolfe And try to dig those gems out of his books. At penning words, Wolfe surely had his way And often wrote ten thousand words a day.
I'll sit and read his words and also write And pass the lonely hours of the night. And though I can't go home again, I'll think of Wolfe and move my pen.
Wolfe was a writer, but I'm no Thomas Wolfe. I need to read and not to write a book. And since the Muse is not with me tonight, I'd best stop now and come again to write.
(And this is wishing you, dear friend, good night!)
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It has a swimming pool for water sports And health club over by the tennis courts. We're glad the baseball team can now play nights, Especially since the school installed the lights.
In athletics it rates the very best, And with its coaching staff we're quite impressed. We're glad to know that no expense is spared To make sure that our teams are well prepared.
Who cares that it has junked geology, Its students can't obtain that fine degree!
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My plan is to coordin...See MoreI need help. I've switched schools and no longer teach Freshman Comp Dual Credit on an every-other-day regular college schedule. My new school teaches the class as part of its regular school day, which means it meets for an hour every day. My schedule mojo is off in a big way and at the end of week 3 we're all bored.
My plan is to coordinate a schedule that might look something like this (still a work in progress):
Monday: Grammar and discussion of reading assignment with assigned discussion prompts Tuesday: In-class writing activities related to the topic of the moment. Wednesday: Peer review and/or conferences for in-progress papers. I'll need something else here for non-draft weeks. Thursday: Monday redux - grammar review and reading assignment discussion (multiple essays assigned per week). Friday: I Don't know.
After working the 2-3 class meetings per week, five days a week has me feeling as though I just repeat myself. Feedback and suggestions are appreciated!
I always value y...See MoreThank you for the suggestions. I do have some of the essays for revision and peer review planned, etc. I do like the idea of linguistics.
Do you have a title or two you could recommend? I've done some searches but think I'm not asking the question correctly. Specific lessons on note taking are percolating as well.
I always value your response (to me and others!) so thank you for being such an awesome resource.
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On 9/01/10, marjoryt wrote: > Proofreader and Editor Workshop - bring in poorly written > materials and have the students rework for specific audiences > or reformat (MLA, APA, CMS). > > Vocabulary building > > More critical reading and note taking skills - these are the > most prevalent complaints about freshmen - they have NEITHER > of these skills well developed > > more library research and applications for instance, they > truly do need to learn The Reader's Guide to Periodical > Literature > > And, not just grammar, but a little linguistics - the > reasoning behind the grammar rules.
You can start with three or 4 sentences, in which the subjects have many, many adjectives. Get the adjectives out of proper sequence. Ask the students to individually work out the proper sequence - don't give them any help, but allow them to work out the order. Ask them to generate the rule. The attached website has a very clear description of the sequence used in modern American English.
I'm currently using Klammer, Schulz, and Volpes' Analyzing English Grammar, 6th edition with my sophomore Traditional Grammar course, but I think you find research on the internet for the reasoning of many rules. For example, S/V agreement can be incredibly confusing for students, until we pull up that old, old beast - the verb conjugation. Students quickly see the "problem" - singular 3rd person present tense. Every time a class does a conjugation, we have a very involved discussion about the uses for the "perfect" tenses, and why modern English is avoiding them.
As an adjunct, how would you hold to minimum standards while expecting descent student-evaluation? would you blame instructors who give really good grades to save their jobs?
On 9/26/10, bernoulli wrote: > Well said marjory! > > On 9/25/10, marjoryt wrote: >> During my years as a student and then instructor, I found that >> some professors are not in touch with their students. >> Consequently, miscommunication ensues. Students vastly prefer >> to be in a class learning something - they don't want to just >> sit. However, they grow frantic and flee in large numbers if >> they perceive the instructor is: >> - assuming that only the student in that major should make good >> grades, or that only students who are honor students are worthy >> of making good grades or that athletes can't be good students or >> that a bad grade on a test means the student is lazy >> - and I've heard my coworkers say these things while at >> lunch - >> - not updating the information - obviously hasn't changed the >> notes, refuses to provide real world examples, continues to >> throw up overhead slide after overhead slide >> - not responsive to how today's students learn - these students >> want to do something with the information, not just listen, >> read, and then test >> - seeming to enjoy throwing difficult assignments to students >> with very little warning and no examples - these students ALWAYS >> want examples >> - treating the students as if they should be stamping out >> projects and essays and reports in a factory - no flexibility >> for due dates, methods of presentation. For example, if a >> student doesn't have the draft by Tuesday, the student earns an >> automatic F for the entire assignment with no make up >> opportunity - 2 of my coworkers do this frequently and believe >> they are weeding out the poor students. >> >> I've been accused by some of my younger colleagues of being >> an "easy A." I simply laugh in their faces. My department >> chair does the same thing. More of my students make As and Bs, >> but that's because I'm using mastery instruction, not easier >> assignments. I'm monitoring student performance and tweaking >> the course to ensure the most students are learning at the >> success level - B and above. >> >> Students, in my opinion, don't look for "easy" as much as they >> look for "reasonable expectation of making a decent grade."
On 11/28/10, Professor Hardy P:arkerson wrote: > I'm from the time-honored > school that believes that > the teacher (professor) hasn't > taught, unless the studenthad > learned. The best teacher is > a textbook written by a Harvard, > Tulane or Yale professor. > > s/HMP > > > On 9/26/10, bernoulli wrote: >> Well said marjory! >> >> On 9/25/10, marjoryt wrote: >>> During my years as a student and then instructor, I found that >>> some professors are not in touch with their students. >>> Consequently, miscommunication ensues. Students vastly prefer >>> to be in a class learning something - they don't want to just >>> sit. However, they grow frantic and flee in large numbers if >>> they perceive the instructor is: >>> - assuming that only the student in that major should make good >>> grades, or that only students who are honor students are worthy >>> of making good grades or that athletes can't be good students or >>> that a bad grade on a test means the student is lazy >>> - and I've heard my coworkers say these things while at >>> lunch - >>> - not updating the information - obviously hasn't changed the >>> notes, refuses to provide real world examples, continues to >>> throw up overhead slide after overhead slide >>> - not responsive to how today's students learn - these students >>> want to do something with the information, not just listen, >>> read, and then test >>> - seeming to enjoy throwing difficult assignments to students >>> with very little warning and no examples - these students ALWAYS >>> want examples >>> - treating the students as if they should be stamping out >>> projects and essays and reports in a factory - no flexibility >>> for due dates, methods of presentation. For example, if a >>> student doesn't have the draft by Tuesday, the student earns an >>> automatic F for the entire assignment with no make up >>> opportunity - 2 of my coworkers do this frequently and believe >>> they are weeding out the poor students. >>> >>> I've been accused by some of my younger colleagues of being >>> an "easy A." I simply laugh in their faces. My department >>> chair does the same thing. More of my students make As and Bs, >>> but that's because I'm using mastery instruction, not easier >>> assignments. I'm monitoring student performance and tweaking >>> the course to ensure the most students are learning at the >>> success level - B and above. >>> >>> Students, in my opinion, don't look for "easy" as much as they >>> look for "reasonable expectation of making a decent grade."
I have always found the nervous system to be extremely difficult for anatomy students. If you have creative ideas for presenting the material, please respond.
marjorytYou might consider one or more of these ideas. I work with developmental and online students; they tell me even one helps. 1. Divide up the unit into smaller chunks of information. For example, you could have them examine the head and trunk, then the arms, then the legs. Or from the skin into the body. Do the introduction, guided work, check test, ...See MoreYou might consider one or more of these ideas. I work with developmental and online students; they tell me even one helps. 1. Divide up the unit into smaller chunks of information. For example, you could have them examine the head and trunk, then the arms, then the legs. Or from the skin into the body. Do the introduction, guided work, check test, remediation/enrichment, and evaluation for each chunk of information. When discussing the second chunk, draw comparisons and contrasts to the 1st unit. 2. Reduce the lecture to the absolute minimum and increase dramatically the actual work the students do. Have them work experiments and draw diagrams and do verbal quizzes to each other. 3. Many students truly desire their learning not via speech or reading, but by viewing. Yes, use the textbook resources and whatever you have availble in the department or the library. You can also do a search for videos on google. I just did a quick search with the term "nervous system" and found quite a few. You can ask the students to view the textbook resource and then view a youtube video and ask them for a comparison/contrast - which is better. They have just worked with the same data at least 3 times (book, video, thinking about the comparison/contrast).
You might also talk to students who have successfully passed the class, in particular those who actually struggled to earn that C or B. They may have strategies you can recommend. I've found straight A students don't always have the very best recommendations; they may say "Oh, I just memorized everything, or I learned in high school and remembered it." The student who struggled to earn that B may have very specific advice - make diagrams in the book, review that website, learn this set of acronyms."
ProfessorExpert.comOn 9/25/10, biochick wrote: > I have always found the nervous system to be extremely > difficult for anatomy students. If you have creative ideas > for presenting the material, please respond.
YouTube videos, online games with nervous system theme ( not sure about the current link, but I am sure you can google it).
Early in the semester I described the Socratic teaching method to my students - that I'd be asking questions without easy answers, that I would not answer the questions myself, and that they would have to work together for the solutions.
Today, we read a selection by the sociologist Claude Levi- Strauss, which discussed chiefs in South American tribes. I then invited questions from the students and responded to those questions. My conclusion question was, "This is the second selection we've read about leadership. The first was Machiavelli's "The Duties of the Prince." What's the difference between the two concepts?" Dead silence. I let it sit. Ask the question again. Let it sit. And let it sit some more. One student raised his hand. "Mrs. T, is this one of those soccer questions?" soccer, soccer, Socratic. . . I answered "Yes, it is! Say something to get the class started!" He said, "Machiavelli thought a prince should be ready for war." Another student said, "Well, you have to have money for weapons and equipment." The first student said, "And food, not that soldiers ever have good food. Pay too. My ancestor quit the Confederate Army - he hadn't been paid in two years."
The students worked on that problem for about 5 minutes, but then one said, "Ok, let's give Mrs. T her answer now. I think Machiavelli's leader hoards his resources and considers his people as a type of resource. Those chiefs consider themselves and anything they own as resources for the people of the tribe. It's like the exact oppposites. Then, what are we, Mrs. T?" My response? "Great work on a Socratic question. Good work, good answer. Let's read what Rousseau and Jefferson say about leaders in a democracy - next week."
(recommend they watch "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" so they can pronounce Socrates correctly!!!)
On 9/29/10, marjoryt wrote: > My students joined the intellectuals today - it's wonderful > to see them wake up and start working the problems! > > Early in the semester I described the Socratic teaching > method to my students - that I'd be asking questions > without easy answers, that I would not answer the questions > myself, and that they would have to work together for the > solutions. > > Today, we read a selection by the sociologist Claude Levi- > Strauss, which discussed chiefs in South American tribes. > I then invited questions from the students and responded to > those questions. My conclusion question was, "This is the > second selection we've read about leadership. The first > was Machiavelli's "The Duties of the Prince." What's the > difference between the two concepts?" > Dead silence. I let it sit. Ask the question again. Let > it sit. And let it sit some more. > One student raised his hand. "Mrs. T, is this one of those > soccer questions?" > soccer, soccer, Socratic. . . > I answered "Yes, it is! Say something to get the class > started!" > He said, "Machiavelli thought a prince should be ready for > war." > Another student said, "Well, you have to have money for > weapons and equipment." > The first student said, "And food, not that soldiers ever > have good food. Pay too. My ancestor quit the Confederate > Army - he hadn't been paid in two years." > > The students worked on that problem for about 5 minutes, > but then one said, "Ok, let's give Mrs. T her answer now. > I think Machiavelli's leader hoards his resources and > considers his people as a type of resource. Those chiefs > consider themselves and anything they own as resources for > the people of the tribe. It's like the exact oppposites. > Then, what are we, Mrs. T?" > My response? "Great work on a Socratic question. Good > work, good answer. Let's read what Rousseau and Jefferson > say about leaders in a democracy - next week."
As the replacement text for a survey course, such as world literature? That wouldn't fly at our institution. The textbook committee selects the book, and all instructors use it. We do that, rather than allow instructor choices, to reduce textbook costs to the students and to help ensure commonality of instruction.