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Anyone taught English in the Hispanic world?

by horrified

Jun 1, 2016

I am certified in English and Spanish; I have a BA in Spanish and an MA in English. I also passed a test and added middle school social studies. I have 4 years oof teaching experience, and I live in a border area.. so I have even taught Spanish for natives. But my district is toxic..so I looked into moving to teach English. (I will only consider the Hispanic world.. I can't imagine teaching Englissh without knowing my students'language.) I feel like I am dealing with the lady in that commericial playing candy crush with real candy.. I want to scream "That is not how any of this works!!!"

First off, the average salary is 7 dollars an hour.. better salaries are in places with a higher cost of living. But you need a teacher's certificate or "an equivalent:. I don't a TEFL certficate to teach English (true) or "an equivalent". So institute jobs paying an average of 7 dollars an hour think I am not qualified enough to join their staff with just 4 years of e...See MoreI am certified in English and Spanish; I have a BA in Spanish and an MA in English. I also passed a test and added middle school social studies. I have 4 years oof teaching experience, and I live in a border area.. so I have even taught Spanish for natives. But my district is toxic..so I looked into moving to teach English. (I will only consider the Hispanic world.. I can't imagine teaching Englissh without knowing my students'language.) I feel like I am dealing with the lady in that commericial playing candy crush with real candy.. I want to scream "That is not how any of this works!!!"

First off, the average salary is 7 dollars an hour.. better salaries are in places with a higher cost of living. But you need a teacher's certificate or "an equivalent:. I don't a TEFL certficate to teach English (true) or "an equivalent". So institute jobs paying an average of 7 dollars an hour think I am not qualified enough to join their staff with just 4 years of experience in the US school system??

The lucky duckies who do qualify have to: move to a major urban alone start door knocking pay for their visa OH: And knowing Spanish is a major disadvantage!! So you are also expected to move without knowing the language.

Schools offer free lessons, help finding ou living arrangements with Hispanics and school events where you can meet up with local to chat in Spanish..and of course they stress this is so you can learn Spanish; but they flat out say they don't hire Spanish speakers!

Not only do jobs refuse to answer basic questions about the visa, salaries and housing they tell you "demanding answers about the visa" is culurally insensitive.

And speaking of visas, some rules I have learned... Peru: No one can have any visa..unless you are a student, but that isn't to work on.

Costa Rica: Do NOT come in with English teachig books or you won't gett past customs..but you can hire ou yourself, great a tax number, and cross the border every 90 days.

Ecuador: You get cultural exchange visa; as a condition to get that visa, you agree to work for free..this is totally legal. Prior to getting that, you need to register your BA and get a personal visa; jobs require ou to have a visa.

Mexico: Plan to make a dozen trips to the consulate's office.. the average cost of these trips is 1000.

BUT: chatboards are filled with posters claiming the visa problem is just false, in Ecuador "you definately can't spend more than you make", and that the region has truckloads of amazing jobs. Anyone who contadicts this narrative is/must be a loser with qualifications. Obvisously.

So what am I missing? Other than being lied to by certficate insitutes and strangers online--and thus believing there are endless great jobs out there--why does anyone teach in the Hispanic world? People even pay headhunters 1500 to get them a 700 a month job! I am sure some private schools want Americans to be classroom English teachers..but I searched for months and never found a single k-12 school job advertised,

it is what it is Each country has its own requirements, certifications, etc, and pay scale, and cost of living. Even in the United States, different states have differing requirements (some states do not accept other states' certifications), and different areas have different pay scales and different costs of living.

Yes, it's complicated. Yes, the rules a...See MoreEach country has its own requirements, certifications, etc, and pay scale, and cost of living. Even in the United States, different states have differing requirements (some states do not accept other states' certifications), and different areas have different pay scales and different costs of living.

Yes, it's complicated. Yes, the rules are different. Yes, it takes time. Yes, it costs money and yes, you will make less than you would be making in the U.S. If you are willing to take all of that as a trade-off, it can also be a rewarding experience, and THAT is why other people do it.

Have you tried looking for jobs in other districts in your state? It might be a better fit for you.

On 6/01/16, horrified wrote: > I am certified in English and Spanish; I have a BA in Spanish > and an MA in English. I also passed a test and added middle > school social studies. I have 4 years oof teaching experience, > and I live in a border area.. so I have even taught Spanish > for natives. But my district is toxic..so I looked into moving > to teach English. (I will only consider the Hispanic world.. I > can't imagine teaching Englissh without knowing my > students'language.) I feel like I am dealing with the lady in > that commericial playing candy crush with real candy.. I want > to scream "That is not how any of this works!!!" > > First off, the average salary is 7 dollars an hour.. better > salaries are in places with a higher cost of living. But you > need a teacher's certificate or "an equivalent:. I don't a > TEFL certficate to teach English (true) or "an equivalent". So > institute jobs paying an average of 7 dollars an hour think I > am not qualified enough to join their staff with just 4 years > of experience in the US school system?? > > The lucky duckies who do qualify have to: > move to a major urban alone > start door knocking > pay for their visa > OH: And knowing Spanish is a major disadvantage!! So you are > also expected to move without knowing the language. > > Schools offer free lessons, help finding ou living > arrangements with Hispanics and school events where you can > meet up with local to chat in Spanish..and of course they > stress this is so you can learn Spanish; but they flat out say > they don't hire Spanish speakers! > > Not only do jobs refuse to answer basic questions about the > visa, salaries and housing they tell you "demanding answers > about the visa" is culurally insensitive. > > And speaking of visas, some rules I have learned... > Peru: No one can have any visa..unless you are a student, but > that isn't to work on. > > Costa Rica: Do NOT come in with English teachig books or you > won't gett past customs..but you can hire ou yourself, great a > tax number, and cross the border every 90 days. > > Ecuador: > You get cultural exchange visa; as a condition to get that > visa, you agree to work for free..this is totally legal. Prior > to getting that, you need to register your BA and get a > personal visa; jobs require ou to have a visa. > > Mexico: Plan to make a dozen trips to the consulate's office.. > the average cost of these trips is 1000. > > BUT: chatboards are filled with posters claiming the visa > problem is just false, in Ecuador "you definately can't spend > more than you make", and that the region has truckloads of > amazing jobs. Anyone who contadicts this narrative is/must be > a loser with qualifications. Obvisously. > > So what am I missing? Other than being lied to by certficate > insitutes and strangers online--and thus believing there are > endless great jobs out there--why does anyone teach in the > Hispanic world? People even pay headhunters 1500 to get them a > 700 a month job! I am sure some private schools want Americans > to be classroom English teachers..but I searched for months > and never found a single k-12 school job advertised,

Jun 2, 2016

Sorry but.. I taught abroad..when the global economy was good. It is not worth it!

1) Jobs are interested..until you have the nerve to be applying from te USA. Then they say get here and we'll chat. Reality check: just moving to a big city alone to job hunt is unafe.

2) Institutes an K 12 schools lie about everything! Salary, schedule, the s...See MoreI taught abroad..when the global economy was good. It is not worth it!

1) Jobs are interested..until you have the nerve to be applying from te USA. Then they say get here and we'll chat. Reality check: just moving to a big city alone to job hunt is unafe.

2) Institutes an K 12 schools lie about everything! Salary, schedule, the student levels, etc. Most jobs apologize profusely and consantly "we are so sorrry we haven't aid you..parents haven't paid us this month.. we promise to get you back pay this week!!"..but nothing changes.

I was even lied to in a contract and told I had inermediate classes.. instead I had college level business! A teacher with a MBA was hired for the job, but she had to go home.

3) I knew multiple teachers who had lived in the country for multiple years and spoke almost no Spanish.. they insisted that if you just used English "the students DO understand". As a tutor I had to reteach beginners with Spanish.. I got f--k ou for thank you.

4) But before you even get to any of this..if you push a school to explain the visa process, they will gett angry and posssibly evenn resind your offer. And I am sorry..wanting to ensure I will get a legal visa is not culturally insensitive.

On 6/01/16, horrified wrote: > I am certified in English and Spanish; I have a BA in Spanish > and an MA in English. I also passed a test and added middle > school social studies. I have 4 years oof teaching experience, > and I live in a border area.. so I have even taught Spanish > for natives. But my district is toxic..so I looked into moving > to teach English. (I will only consider the Hispanic world.. I > can't imagine teaching Englissh without knowing my > students'language.) I feel like I am dealing with the lady in > that commericial playing candy crush with real candy.. I want > to scream "That is not how any of this works!!!" > > First off, the average salary is 7 dollars an hour.. better > salaries are in places with a higher cost of living. But you > need a teacher's certificate or "an equivalent:. I don't a > TEFL certficate to teach English (true) or "an equivalent". So > institute jobs paying an average of 7 dollars an hour think I > am not qualified enough to join their staff with just 4 years > of experience in the US school system?? > > The lucky duckies who do qualify have to: > move to a major urban alone > start door knocking > pay for their visa > OH: And knowing Spanish is a major disadvantage!! So you are > also expected to move without knowing the language. > > Schools offer free lessons, help finding ou living > arrangements with Hispanics and school events where you can > meet up with local to chat in Spanish..and of course they > stress this is so you can learn Spanish; but they flat out say > they don't hire Spanish speakers! > > Not only do jobs refuse to answer basic questions about the > visa, salaries and housing they tell you "demanding answers > about the visa" is culurally insensitive. > > And speaking of visas, some rules I have learned... > Peru: No one can have any visa..unless you are a student, but > that isn't to work on. > > Costa Rica: Do NOT come in with English teachig books or you > won't gett past customs..but you can hire ou yourself, great a > tax number, and cross the border every 90 days. > > Ecuador: > You get cultural exchange visa; as a condition to get that > visa, you agree to work for free..this is totally legal. Prior > to getting that, you need to register your BA and get a > personal visa; jobs require ou to have a visa. > > Mexico: Plan to make a dozen trips to the consulate's office.. > the average cost of these trips is 1000. > > BUT: chatboards are filled with posters claiming the visa > problem is just false, in Ecuador "you definately can't spend > more than you make", and that the region has truckloads of > amazing jobs. Anyone who contadicts this narrative is/must be > a loser with qualifications. Obvisously. > > So what am I missing? Other than being lied to by certficate > insitutes and strangers online--and thus believing there are > endless great jobs out there--why does anyone teach in the > Hispanic world? People even pay headhunters 1500 to get them a > 700 a month job! I am sure some private schools want Americans > to be classroom English teachers..but I searched for months > and never found a single k-12 school job advertised,

Jun 4, 2016

more..same poster as above I never moved wthout job, but I did do in country job hunting; in several cases the job i moved for didn't work out, and in some caases I wanted to move to another city.

So..you'd go in, say you are a native speaker and ask if the insitute s hiring. They would hire you on the spot and you would start that day. awesome, right? Nope. Probem...See MoreI never moved wthout job, but I did do in country job hunting; in several cases the job i moved for didn't work out, and in some caases I wanted to move to another city.

So..you'd go in, say you are a native speaker and ask if the insitute s hiring. They would hire you on the spot and you would start that day. awesome, right? Nope. Probem were immense: yyou were usually on call..you worked rndom hours with little notice. You didn't get paid, these schools had no legal way to get you a visa, you never knew what clsses you were teaching, you lacke the mot basic supplies.. an so on.

My mom taught in a university education department and she (with my permission of course): used my experiences as a discussion topic in her education classes. These jobs aren'tt profesional, and that is not surprising. Professional jobs advertise and hire when they need staff; unprofessional jobs wait for applicants to walk in and ask for a job. That s why you can talk into wal mart and gett hired.. but high end stores don't hire that way. Could a job teacching English in Latin America nver adevertise (and only hire people in front of them) but be an excellent school? Sure. But is it "wrong" to stereotype an institute as unprofessional becasue they hire by waiting for gringos to wander in? No. Odds are the job that hires you as soon as you enter because "we need a teaccher now o cover today's classes!" is not a good job.

So.. I will find a job before I go. Ha ha ha :). Insttitutes won't hire you until you are in their city. And that makes them unprofessional. There is a huge neeed for English teachers in K-12 schools, but (due to visa issues and other issues I won'tt gett into) you are highly unlikely to find such a job..even if you are in counry.

/16, Sorry but.. wrote: > I taught abroad..when the global economy was good. It is not > worth it! > > 1) Jobs are interested..until you have the nerve to be applying > from te USA. Then they say get here and we'll chat. Reality > check: just moving to a big city alone to job hunt is unafe. > > 2) Institutes an K 12 schools lie about everything! Salary, > schedule, the student levels, etc. Most jobs apologize profusely > and consantly "we are so sorrry we haven't aid you..parents > haven't paid us this month.. we promise to get you back pay this > week!!"..but nothing changes. > > I was even lied to in a contract and told I had inermediate > classes.. instead I had college level business! A teacher with a > MBA was hired for the job, but she had to go home. > > 3) I knew multiple teachers who had lived in the country for > multiple years and spoke almost no Spanish.. they insisted that > if you just used English "the students DO understand". As a > tutor I had to reteach beginners with Spanish.. I got f--k ou > for thank you. > > 4) But before you even get to any of this..if you push a school > to explain the visa process, they will gett angry and posssibly > evenn resind your offer. And I am sorry..wanting to ensure I > will get a legal visa is not culturally insensitive. > > On 6/01/16, horrified wrote: >> I am certified in English and Spanish; I have a BA in Spanish >> and an MA in English. I also passed a test and added middle >> school social studies. I have 4 years oof teaching experience, >> and I live in a border area.. so I have even taught Spanish >> for natives. But my district is toxic..so I looked into moving >> to teach English. (I will only consider the Hispanic world.. I >> can't imagine teaching Englissh without knowing my >> students'language.) I feel like I am dealing with the lady in >> that commericial playing candy crush with real candy.. I want >> to scream "That is not how any of this works!!!" >> >> First off, the average salary is 7 dollars an hour.. better >> salaries are in places with a higher cost of living. But you >> need a teacher's certificate or "an equivalent:. I don't a >> TEFL certficate to teach English (true) or "an equivalent". So >> institute jobs paying an average of 7 dollars an hour think I >> am not qualified enough to join their staff with just 4 years >> of experience in the US school system?? >> >> The lucky duckies who do qualify have to: >> move to a major urban alone >> start door knocking >> pay for their visa >> OH: And knowing Spanish is a major disadvantage!! So you are >> also expected to move without knowing the language. >> >> Schools offer free lessons, help finding ou living >> arrangements with Hispanics and school events where you can >> meet up with local to chat in Spanish..and of course they >> stress this is so you can learn Spanish; but they flat out say >> they don't hire Spanish speakers! >> >> Not only do jobs refuse to answer basic questions about the >> visa, salaries and housing they tell you "demanding answers >> about the visa" is culurally insensitive. >> >> And speaking of visas, some rules I have learned... >> Peru: No one can have any visa..unless you are a student, but >> that isn't to work on. >> >> Costa Rica: Do NOT come in with English teachig books or you >> won't gett past customs..but you can hire ou yourself, great a >> tax number, and cross the border every 90 days. >> >> Ecuador: >> You get cultural exchange visa; as a condition to get that >> visa, you agree to work for free..this is totally legal. Prior >> to getting that, you need to register your BA and get a >> personal visa; jobs require ou to have a visa. >> >> Mexico: Plan to make a dozen trips to the consulate's office.. >> the average cost of these trips is 1000. >> >> BUT: chatboards are filled with posters claiming the visa >> problem is just false, in Ecuador "you definately can't spend >> more than you make", and that the region has truckloads of >> amazing jobs. Anyone who contadicts this narrative is/must be >> a loser with qualifications. Obvisously. >> >> So what am I missing? Other than being lied to by certficate >> insitutes and strangers online--and thus believing there are >> endless great jobs out there--why does anyone teach in the >> Hispanic world? People even pay headhunters 1500 to get them a >> 700 a month job! I am sure some private schools want Americans >> to be classroom English teachers..but I searched for months >> and never found a single k-12 school job advertised,

Jun 5, 2016

tyler Salaries vary widely, but a friend of mine worked a very nice private school in Mérida, Yucatan, and earned $125 USD a week teaching English full time. You don't need to get your abacus out to realize that isn't enough to live on in most cases.

Jun 8, 2016

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