what the heckOn 5/13/10, question wrote: > Can I still take the text to get my certificate? I've been > subbing for 2 years but feel more ready to become a teacher > at this point
Is there a reason no one wants to answer my question??
On 5/14/10, what the heck wrote: > On 5/13/10, question wrot...See MoreThe process for certification varies from state to state. But I think you would still be able to take the Praxis or Place if that is what you want to do. I think your best bet would be to contact your state department of education, or look on their website.
Good luck!
On 5/14/10, what the heck wrote: > On 5/13/10, question wrote: >> Can I still take the text to get my certificate? I've been >> subbing for 2 years but feel more ready to become a teacher >> at this point > > Is there a reason no one wants to answer my question?
I think a lot will depend...See MoreOn 5/16/10, Rick Blackwell wrote: > I am interested in receiving information from student > teachers who are also college athletes. > > Can you student teach when you are in season? > > If s, what are the rules when you have to miss a partial > day or day opf school due to travel to a contest?
I think a lot will depend on how flexible your college is. Most colleges, as well as state certification requirements, have a designated number of days you must student teach. It could be that some arrangement could be made to allow you to complete your requirement after the semester in which you student teach is over. For example, current student teachers were done in early May, because that's when the college semester ended, but there were 4-5 weeks of public school still to go. If you had a situation like that, you could make up the extra days then. The fall semester is a bit more problematic, as there isn't that big gap between college and public school calendars. It may be that you will have to take an extra semester to complete your requirement.
The real issue I see is one of time commitment. Student teaching requires a tremendous amount of time, far more than most student teachers realize or are prepared for. That is the reason you will hear me, and most other teachers on this board, tell you not to try to have an outside job during student teaching. An athletic commitment would be the same. If you have a choice, opt to student teach when you do not have an athletic season to contend with and can really devote yourself to student teaching. if this isn't possible, consult with the student teaching office at your college.
On 5/28/10, OidTeach wrote: > On 5/16/10, Rick Blackwell wrote: >> I am interested in receiving information from student >> teachers who are also college athletes. >> >> Can you student teach when you are in season? >> >> If s, what are the rules when you have to miss a partial >> day or day opf school due to travel to a contest? > > I think a lot will depend on how flexible your college is. > Most colleges, as well as state certification requirements, > have a designated number of days you must student teach. It > could be that some arrangement could be made to allow you to > complete your requirement after the semester in which you > student teach is over. For example, current student teachers > were done in early May, because that's when the college > semester ended, but there were 4-5 weeks of public school > still to go. If you had a situation like that, you could make > up the extra days then. The fall semester is a bit more > problematic, as there isn't that big gap between college and > public school calendars. It may be that you will have to take > an extra semester to complete your requirement. > > The real issue I see is one of time commitment. Student > teaching requires a tremendous amount of time, far more than > most student teachers realize or are prepared for. That is > the reason you will hear me, and most other teachers on this > board, tell you not to try to have an outside job during > student teaching. An athletic commitment would be the same. > If you have a choice, opt to student teach when you do not > have an athletic season to contend with and can really devote > yourself to student teaching. if this isn't possible, consult > with the student teaching office at your college.
HailsAt my college, it's senior year, last semester when you begin to student teach. We are required to have a negative TB test (and proof of this), a background check, and at least 90 hours of being in a classroom before beginning.
In oklahoma what college year do you start student teaching? How do you register to be an Oklahoma student teacher?What things do you need to have done before registering to student teach?Do you know of a good website that talks about how to be a student teacher in Oklahoma
I do a few things to stand out when I am applying/looking for a teaching position, and it has generated a number of inquiries from principals....
First, I write a cover letter that tells them the position I am looking for, my major assets, and I tease them into wanting to know more about me with a few of my accomplishments and how they would be beneficial for their school.
I also include copy of my resume, and then I include a list on my accomplishments targeted to the position I am applying for.
If you're interested in seeing what I send out, feel free to contact me.
On 5/30/10, Norma wrote: > how ho i start a cover letter > > how do i write one out please help
My mentor teacher just retired. Seeing her at her retirement reminded me how much I owe her for teaching me so much. So here are a few tips for making the most out of your student teaching experience.
I'm having a hard time with my classes because they are CONSTANT insane horror stories-- and no one is willing to admit that: A) some stories people tell in class might not be true at all and/or we might not have the full picture
B) some problems could be solved if we-- as students now and educators later-- politely but firmly explain "that's unacceptable" and ask that the problem be resolved
C) Some problems are so severe teachers in that situation need legal help (assuming they can't just quit, which I get apllies to 99.7 percent of us).
If we ever say these things in response to the horror storiess, everyone calls us naive and "living in a fanasty world".
Cases: I) Graduate students transferring in classes: I admit I to have dealt with the issues of credits transfer and it's absolutely infurating! I have a masters in English but only one semester of freshman English-- because I went to a Christian college and we did one English and one religion in our first year. "You'll need freshman English..". But not only do I have the my MA, it is from the same school I'm in now-- so I'd in taking the class from someone I've been in classes with! (They haven't graduated yet; I did.) I also have several examples of such nonsense that happened to me directly; this problem very real!
BUT students just enroll in the freshman English, the biology 121 they APEd out of in high school and "don't have"--even if they will be biology teachers-- the intermediate Spanish the native speaker never had, etc. and whine. Did you file an appeal or request help from a dean?
"Don't be so naive.."
These are state rules; the university can't intervene.
How could you even do that?
But my mom is a graduate dean-- although not at our school-- and her job is to resolve issues like this.
II) The "it happened to my cousin's husband's best friend''s sister" stories: She got fired for being gay; the principal told her "I have the right not to state why". She has a sign in her office that says "God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" and refused to help her when students called her a dyke.
She turned in daily lesson plans, but they never satisified the principal; she asked and asked for feedback but was told "That's not my job"; then she got fired.
She had kids pee out the window in class.
She was removed from student teaching and never got any statement of why.
A kid claimed she hit him and that's it-- she will never teach anywhere again.
My favorite :): In her state to be an adminstrator you need to take the Praxis, but you can't get your scores. She interviewed and interviewed, but never got called back.. she thinks it's because she failed the test, but she can't have her score.
Anyone suggesting whoever these things happened to-- asuming it's true-- get legal help or saying that "That sounds fishy" is blown off as hopelessly naive. Someone even told me point blank: It's not illegal for any principal to fire an untenured teacher and not give a reason; you are crazy if you think having a lawyer would help if you were fired unfairly!
By the way, few stories like this happened to "me" or "my husband".. most people admit they got the story 4th hand.
III) "Welcome to teaching" (From a faculty member): In many first jobs you have no access to textbooks or content based curricula, so you have to prove you can create complete subject syllabi with no help other than the internet.
80% of the kids in our district have IEPS
The superintendent goes into classrooms randomly and writes up any teacher not using group work at that time (To be fair, this was from a faculty member who said that was a problem since we need to use a variety of methods.)
You will never, ever have any weekend days or holidays where you don't work for at least 9 hours for the rest of your life.
If a student who is so cognatively impaired he soils himself is in your class, you have to deal with him/her including changing diapers.. and NO teacher has any guarentee you won't get students like that, even if your certfification is for gifted education or you are teaching nothing but physics and calculus.
Something here doesn't sound right? Don't be so naive!
You'd complain if a severely retarded student was placed in your class and you didn't have support? HUH? That's a joke, right?
Best of all, education professors and many students are in fact hopelessly naive.
"Whole language" is based on the theory that if you just let kids read/write about whatever interests them in "developmentally apprioprate" ways most kids will learn to read very effectively; those who don't are usually learning disabled.
In my area (foreign language) there is a whole theory based on this idea: Talk to kids in the target language and they'll absorb it; they'll talk back when they are ready. Don't worrry about "output"-- what students say or write in the language- - or the lame idea that you need to teach x number of grammar points by y time frame. Just give students input in the language and they'll get so fluent so fast you'll be amazed!
"Discovery learning" is basded on the idea that if you just give studens interesting problems to work on, they will discover not only what they need to learn content wise but how to get along with peers-- all while developing a passion for learning.
Does anyone else agree that what I'm describing sounds like their program-- and that it's annoying to have to sit through enhdless classes full of this nonsense?
The student engages in conversations, provides and obtains information, expresses feelings and emotions, and exchanges opinions.
Soo.. I have to "meet" this standard? I can be fired for failing to meet it? It dicates content? Seriously?
I don't mean to say this is a bad statement of the broad goals of a language class, but unless there's more information about what content meets it--and there wasn't-- you can't "meet" it. You can show that a plan you made related to it, but that's not the same thing as meeting it.
The first thing I learned in my education classes was this: For lesson plans you plan content, click on any standard, and then do the summary of why the plan met that standard.
It's very naive to say we (as a country) require all K-12 classes to be "standards based" when the standards are generally like my examples, because if 100 foreign language teachers wrote a lesson plan that met there would be at least 50 different actual plans.
School Clothing The past tense(s) current events in France studied in English and almost anything else could "meet" that standard
There is no way to determine how to meet the standard, so it can't be met-- but say that in class and you'd be asked to leave. We all continue to pretend the standards are meetable.
Why have these vague standards? A) It's what we do so we don't have to create content based standards that might contain evolution, not teach us enough about Eskimos, say that the ecomony is usually stronger under Democratic presidents than under Republicans if that's a fact, etc. ad offend someone.
B) Education schools don't think content matters.
C) It pleases everyone by having accountibility but without any hard choices of what content to teach. On 7/10/10, anyone else dealing with this? wrote: > This is a rant.. I'm not looking for advice. But I am > wondering if anyone will admit to agreeing with me, because > only one of my classmates gets where I'm coming from.. > > I'm having a hard time with my classes because they are > CONSTANT insane horror stories-- and no one is willing to > admit that: > A) some stories people tell in class might not be true at > all and/or we might not have the full picture > > B) some problems could be solved if we-- as students now > and educators later-- politely but firmly explain "that's > unacceptable" and ask that the problem be resolved > > C) Some problems are so severe teachers in that situation > need legal help (assuming they can't just quit, which I get > apllies to 99.7 percent of us). > > If we ever say these things in response to the horror > storiess, everyone calls us naive and "living in a fanasty > world". > > Cases: > I) Graduate students transferring in classes: > I admit I to have dealt with the issues of credits transfer > and it's absolutely infurating! I have a masters in English > but only one semester of freshman English-- because I went > to a Christian college and we did one English and one > religion in our first year. "You'll need freshman > English..". But not only do I have the my MA, it is from > the same school I'm in now-- so I'd in taking the class > from someone I've been in classes with! (They haven't > graduated yet; I did.) I also have several examples of such > nonsense that happened to me directly; this problem very > real! > > BUT students just enroll in the freshman English, the > biology 121 they APEd out of in high school and "don't > have"--even if they will be biology teachers-- the > intermediate Spanish the native speaker never had, etc. and > whine. Did you file an appeal or request help from a dean? > > "Don't be so naive.." > > These are state rules; the university can't intervene. > > How could you even do that? > > But my mom is a graduate dean-- although not at our school-- > and her job is to resolve issues like this. > > II) The "it happened to my cousin's husband's best > friend''s sister" stories: > She got fired for being gay; the principal told her "I have > the right not to state why". She has a sign in her office > that says "God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" and > refused to help her when students called her a dyke. > > She turned in daily lesson plans, but they never satisified > the principal; she asked and asked for feedback but was > told "That's not my job"; then she got fired. > > She had kids pee out the window in class. > > She was removed from student teaching and never got any > statement of why. > > A kid claimed she hit him and that's it-- she will never > teach anywhere again. > > My favorite :): > In her state to be an adminstrator you need to take the > Praxis, but you can't get your scores. She interviewed and > interviewed, but never got called back.. she thinks it's > because she failed the test, but she can't have her score. > > Anyone suggesting whoever these things happened to-- > asuming it's true-- get legal help or saying that "That > sounds fishy" is blown off as hopelessly naive. Someone > even told me point blank: > It's not illegal for any principal to fire an untenured > teacher and not give a reason; you are crazy if you think > having a lawyer would help if you were fired unfairly! > > By the way, few stories like this happened to "me" or "my > husband".. most people admit they got the story 4th hand. > > III) "Welcome to teaching" > (From a faculty member): > In many first jobs you have no access to textbooks or > content based curricula, so you have to prove you can > create complete subject syllabi with no help other than the > internet. > > 80% of the kids in our district have IEPS > > > The superintendent goes into classrooms randomly and writes > up any teacher not using group work at that time > (To be fair, this was from a faculty member who said that > was a problem since we need to use a variety of methods.) > > You will never, ever have any weekend days or holidays > where you don't work for at least 9 hours for the rest of > your life. > > If a student who is so cognatively impaired he soils > himself is in your class, you have to deal with him/her > including changing diapers.. and NO teacher has any > guarentee you won't get students like that, even if your > certfification is for gifted education or you are teaching > nothing but physics and calculus. > > Something here doesn't sound right? Don't be so naive! > > You'd complain if a severely retarded student was placed in > your class and you didn't have support? HUH? That's a joke, > right? > > Best of all, education professors and many students are in > fact hopelessly naive. > > "Whole language" is based on the theory that if you just > let kids read/write about whatever interests them > in "developmentally apprioprate" ways most kids will learn > to read very effectively; those who don't are usually > learning disabled. > > In my area (foreign language) there is a whole theory based > on this idea: > Talk to kids in the target language and they'll absorb it; > they'll talk back when they are ready. Don't worrry > about "output"-- what students say or write in the language- > - or the lame idea that you need to teach x number of > grammar points by y time frame. Just give students input in > the language and they'll get so fluent so fast you'll be > amazed! > > "Discovery learning" is basded on the idea that if you just > give studens interesting problems to work on, they will > discover not only what they need to learn content wise but > how to get along with peers-- all while developing a > passion for learning. > > Does anyone else agree that what I'm describing sounds like > their program-- and that it's annoying to have to sit > through enhdless classes full of this nonsense?
In educa...See MoreI am currently a Spanish teacher, and I'll admit that not everything you learn in all of your classes is "necessary." I remember sitting in some of my first education classes and thinking that the class was a huge waste of my time. However, not everything they teach you in your education/world languages classes is a waste of time.
In education classes, make sure you learn how to correctly plan a lesson, write a lesson plan, various teaching methods/strategies (not all methods will work for all students), classroom management strategies (again, not all methods will work for all students or all teachers), assessment strategies/methods, etc. Realize that as a professional, you will have to constantly evaluate new methods and strategies, so you might as well start evaluating them now.
I also don't agree with the "whole language" approach in foreign language instruction. However, I think that by learning about it I can use bits and pieces of it in my teaching. You'll find that as you teach, you combine bits and pieces from various methods to form your own teaching style, which is completely ok. I know that the national world language standards aren't very descriptive, but your state's standards may be more descriptive of telling you what you need to teach.
Also, not all stories that people share in their classes are true. Some may be true, others might not be. Don't dwell on the stories too much. Do bad things happen in the education profession (just like in other professions)? Yes. However, keep in mind that a lot of the stories you're hearing might not be completely true and just ignore them. Realize that there is no such thing as a perfect job/profession.
I know you said you weren't looking for advice, but I agree with you on some points, decided to give you some tips, and overall I am telling you to STAY POSITIVE about education!
I'm about to start my student teaching assignment this fall (only waiting for my university to assign me to a master teacher). I'm getting my credential in Secondary Math, in California. I've already got my clearance to qualify for student teaching (passed my Algebra/Geometry/Calculus CSET exams, and the first 2 Teacher Performance Assessments (TPAs) that California requires. What I'm wondering... my school provides a student teaching orientation about a month before school starts, but I want to know why the extra month lead time - what all do student teachers need to do prior to class starting?
I am in college now. If everything goes as planned, I will graduate in May 2013. Right now, I work as an Administrative Secretary. I plan to look for another position soon. What do you suggest I do to get my foot into the field of teaching now?
Was browsing one of the other chatboards on teachers.net and a teacher recommended the following website from the Pennsylvania Dept of Education. There are some awesome videos (all grade levels/subjects) presented!
Click below for the articles. They include: "25 ways to Obtain Children's Attention in a School Setting;" "Elementary Classroom Rules and Management;" "Effective Praise;" "Educator's Guild to Enhancing Children Life Skills;" "The Essential Skill of Self-Control;" and "Ten Keys to Educator's Survival."
Is there a reason no one wants to answer my question??